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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Jesse Jackson Jr. in plea deal talks with feds, sources say
[Sun Times] U.S. Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., who handily won re-election Tuesday despite a lengthy stay at Mayo Clinic for depression and bipolar disorder, is in the midst of plea discussions with the feds probing his alleged misuse of campaign funds.

"No one has pled guilty, but plea discussions are ongoing," said a top Sneed source, who said Jackson is still undergoing treatment at Mayo Clinic.

Sneed is also told Jackson, who returned to Mayo Clinic after undergoing outpatient treatment in the seclusion of his home in Washington, D.C., is not only being investigated for allegedly using campaign funds to decorate his Washington home -- but also Sneed hears he may also have used campaign funds to buy a $40,000 Rolex watch as a gift for a female friend.

An heir apparent to the beneficence and largesse of the Jackson dynasty, Jackson has been immersed in a cloud of federal scrutiny for the past three years.

In late 2008, Jackson, who desired the U.S. Senate seat vacated by Barack Obama
We're gonna punish our enemies and we're gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us...
when he became president, was also mentioned in connection with the "pay to play" sale of that Senate slot that led to the conviction of former Illinois Gov. Rod Y'gotta pay to play! Blagojevich
Who was tried and eventually convicted on federal corruption charges that he tried to sell or trade Obama's old U.S. Senate seat.
. Jackson has always denied involvement and was never charged.

"This has been an ongoing nightmare for the Jackson family, particularly his wife, Ald. Sandi Jackson, and the Reverend [his father, Rev. Jesse Jackson Sr.]," added the source, who is familiar with the campaign funds probe.
Posted by: Fred || 11/09/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [4385 views] Top||

#1  Investing in Swiss watches? Sounds like he has pretty good understanding of current economics. One must wonder if he's also been watching RGR stock and dividends as well?
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/09/2012 11:58 Comments || Top||


Robbery Thwarted After Chinese Restaurant Workers Fail To Understand¬ Demands
[Tampa.CBSLocal] A failure to understand English at a Chinese restaurant has led to a botched robbery attempt.
"Gimme yer dough!"
"Ahhh! You rikey lice?"

Orange County authorities are looking for three masked suspects who attempted to rob a local Chinese restaurant late Monday, but who left empty-handed after the restaurant workers who only spoke Cantonese couldn't understand what the English-speaking suspects were saying.
"Yer money! We wantcher money!"
"No soup! Egg loll!"

The Orlando Sentinel reports that three masked men attempted to rob the New China restaurant. The workers at the restaurant, however, could not properly respond to the robbers' demands because the employees only spoke Cantonese, according to police.
"You talkee manager, hokay, Joe?"
According to the Sentinel, one robber, wielding a gun, pointed the gun against the head of one male worker.
"I'll blow yer brains out, slant!"
"No blains. Only egg loll!"

From there, the robbers attempted to bang against the cash register to get it to open, but would accidentally set off the gun in the process, according to police. The men would leave the premises empty-handed.
"So long, suckers!"
"Cheeze, Wong. You scared the spit out of me! Where'd you learn all that stuff?"
"Jackie Chan movies. You guys want to go out for spaghetti after we close up?"
Posted by: Fred || 11/09/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [214 views] Top||

#1  Next time, use the fire extinguisher to open the register.
Posted by: Perfesser || 11/09/2012 9:57 Comments || Top||

#2  Hey Rantburg ... we obviously eat at the same place :-)
Posted by: Raider || 11/09/2012 10:39 Comments || Top||

#3  I've found that if you're polite and nice and tip well their English improves considerably.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 11/09/2012 11:42 Comments || Top||

#4  Back in my office days I sometimes served as interpreter for the secretary calling the Chinese restaurant with a phone order. "Sh'lim?" "That means 'shrimp'".
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 11/09/2012 15:19 Comments || Top||

#5  D *** NG IT, clearly these guys need to be reported to the Prowler's Union of Bedrock for missing their meeting, classes on international relations, + trying to rob people whom don't understand you.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/09/2012 21:14 Comments || Top||


-Short Attention Span Theater-
Feds limit commercial oil shale development on federal lands in West
Posted by: DarthVader || 11/09/2012 18:37 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [213 views] Top||

#1  Enjoy your higher priced energy and heating costs, you idiots that voted for this fuckstick.

Enjoy your higher unemployment.

Enjoy your bondage.
Posted by: DarthVader || 11/09/2012 18:38 Comments || Top||

#2  ....and so it begins continues....
Posted by: Uncle Phester || 11/09/2012 19:40 Comments || Top||


US Judge allows experimental, untested Ohio voting software patch
US judge allows Ohio voting software, alleged to be vulnerable to fraud
What could possibly go wrong?
On Election Day, a federal judge said the plaintiff failed to show any 'actual and imminent harm' from voting software used in almost a third of Ohio's counties. The concern was of a digital 'back door' that someone might exploit to alter vote totals.
And who knows more about software than a federal judge?
A federal judge on Tuesday refused to grant a temporary injunction to prevent Ohio election officials from using new election software installed recently in county computers to format vote totals and transmit them to the Secretary of State's Office.
"Here! What are you men doing?"
"Software update, boss!"
"I didn't order a software update!"
"Sez right here y'did. So we update yer software!"

In his ruling, US District Judge Gregory Frost said the motion filed Monday in Columbus failed to show any "actual and imminent harm" from the software, which an expert witness for the plaintiff had claimed would created a digital "back door" that someone might exploit to alter vote totals.
"Really, there's nothing to worry about. A very nice fellow called from the union hall and explained it all to me. So I'm ruling against you."
The suit alleged that the Secretary of State's Office used a legal loophole to install software on electronic voting systems in county vote-tabulation machines without having it checked by the Ohio Board of Voting Machine Examiners, the state's technical board that is charged with reviewing election software. State officials say that they have followed federal guidelines and that the equipment is secure.
"Yeah. We don't need no Board of Voting Machine Examiners! The guys from the union fixed everything."
Bob Fitrakis, the Green Party candidate for Congress who filed the suit, has alleged that the Secretary of State's Office eluded the Ohio Board of Voting Machine Examiners by deeming the software "experimental," because last-minute fixes under that moniker do not require certification and testing.
And God knows there's nothing that works better or is more secure than experimental software.
Mr. Fitrakis says the contract with the firm that sells the software was leaked to FreePress.org, of which he is editor.
Thirty years working as a computer programmer tells me that an untested patch at the last minute before going live is a recipe for disaster.
In an affidavit supporting the filing, James March, an expert witness on voting machines, testified that the 28-page contract describes in detail the requirements for the software -- showing that a third party could gain access to county vote totals.

During the hearing, computer security expert Michael Duniho of Pima County, Ariz., testified by phone that the installed software, called EXP software, could make county vote-tabulation computers vulnerable to a virus that could change vote counts.

But Judge Frost said Fitrakis's experts did not show sufficient familiarity with the software in question and were merely "speculative."

"Fitrakis has failed to demonstrate actual and imminent harm," Frost wrote in his 10- page decision. "His claim to injunctive relief is based on a series of speculative assumptions about what the EXP software might do to the county vote tabulation computers and how someone might be able to use the EXP software to alter election results. Fitrakis has not provided actual evidence that demonstrates how this harm is a realistic possibility, much less how it is actual and imminent."

Fitrakis has filed a similar motion to halt tabulation using the software with a state court, whose ruling on matters of state law is expected soon.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 11/09/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [219 views] Top||

#1  I think electronic voting is a bad idea but assuming we are going to have it going forward their should be a law saying that nothing can change for the month before the election and that all political parties have access to a voting machine for the month prior to that to ensure they feel it is fair and accurate.

This is nonsense. We are a first world nation that is turning into a third world klepotcracy really, really fast.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 11/09/2012 0:10 Comments || Top||

#2  Just. use. paper. ballots.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 11/09/2012 2:52 Comments || Top||

#3  The point of the electronic machines was to prevent the kind of mischief that paper ballots are prone to: disappearing bags of votes, shredded ballots marked for the wrong candidate, extra ballots marked for our guy...

The machine I voted on is electronic, but also creates a paper tape of the ballot choices and demands agreement that the choices are correct before the vote is registered, in an effort to put those concerns to rest.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/09/2012 7:37 Comments || Top||

#4  They should move voting to a weekend. Get rid of early voting and just give everyone 48 hours. End mail in votes. Have ballots that can be filled in at home and a fast pass line to get you through quick if you've already done the work. They should have ballots in scantron form (cause all americans know how that works) and have you drop it in a machine and confirm visually. Three reciepts provide your vote info. One for each partys poll watcher and one for the voter. They should clean the voter rolls after every presidential election and have you register again. You should get a picture voter id card and that should be checked prior to casting your vote. Those voter registration deals should be able to provide copies of each voter id card they gave out so that the two cards can be matched up at the voter booth instead of using a list. Anyone tampering with the process should get serious jail time.

Many of these ideas should be put on the bsllots of the 50 states so folks can vote on them and change the dystem on a grass roots level. Force the cheaters to defend themselves.
Posted by: Rjschwarz || 11/09/2012 8:01 Comments || Top||

#5  Someone really needs to leak the source code. Lets take a look and see if there are any 'back doors'.

Rjschwarz - very good ideas. Get rid of motor-voter and voter-registration drives - make them register, in person, with photo-id and proof of citizenship.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/09/2012 8:10 Comments || Top||

#6  Only one state out of the 50 required new software a few days prior to the election, and that state was.... OHIO ?

"It doesn't matter who votes, it only matters who counts the votes".
You already know the author.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/09/2012 9:25 Comments || Top||

#7  Great inlines, Fred. If it wasn't so despicably evil it'd be funny.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 11/09/2012 11:39 Comments || Top||

#8  Trailing wife: In Europe ballots just don't disappear and Al Franken would have et best be laughed out of the country and at wors gone straight to jail.

Also, at thevery beginning of compters when these still used electronic valvbes on of the programing pioners said: "Computers should nevr bne used for vote coiunting, the rislk of fraud iss just too high
Posted by: JFM || 11/09/2012 12:01 Comments || Top||

#9  Who has links to the machines and software? Follow the money and power.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/09/2012 13:40 Comments || Top||

#10  One more lesson to be learned from this article, perhaps the most important lesson of all, is that the state Secretary of States offices are extremely important. Republicans should seek these offices with all the dirty tricks employed by Democrats. Hire detectives to dig up dirt. Investigate the hell out of Democrat secretaries of state or any Democrat who aspires to such a position. If they do get elected, watch them like hawks and sue their asses off at the drop of a hat. If they wanna fight that way, give them hell.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 11/09/2012 13:50 Comments || Top||


This is why we are screwed
Posted by: Beavis || 11/09/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [226 views] Top||

#1  Barak Peron and an ignorant populace.
Posted by: newc || 11/09/2012 1:27 Comments || Top||

#2  When the population of a nation, or a significant majority of it, no longer know what their own national identity is, then the principles on which the country was founded cease to be their principles. The decay of the foundation results in the collapse of a nation.
Rome fell because eventually the majority administering and defending her, at all levels, no longer understood what a Roman was, what it meant to be Roman. Those remaining real Romans where so corrupted they did not care.
Posted by: jefe101 || 11/09/2012 1:32 Comments || Top||

#3  "What's the 1% of America? There's over 300 THOUSAND Americans? So that's 3,000 people?"

Strange. He skipped social studies and English, yet he did ok in math. At least it won't bother him when it's time to add three zeroes to everything.

Posted by: RandomJD || 11/09/2012 1:52 Comments || Top||

#4  Romney wears magic underpants because he believes in Jesus... Says it all.

Jesus was born a Jew, and chose to turn against god. Most people aren't lucky enough to be part of the chosen race. But if you are one of the few god chooses, how do you think he feels if you throw it back in his face?
Posted by: Glomoting Ghibelline9643 || 11/09/2012 3:05 Comments || Top||

#5  I don't mean to sound dumb GG, but Huh?
Posted by: Skidmark || 11/09/2012 4:22 Comments || Top||

#6  Cannibis research stocks are skyrocketing, everywhere else the market is down. Could there possibly be a message here ?

Posted by: Besoeker || 11/09/2012 6:31 Comments || Top||

#7  Not that it makes a damn bit of difference at this point, but Mercer provides a short and quite astute post-mortem.

Klik hier
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/09/2012 6:49 Comments || Top||

#8  Glomoting Ghibelline9643 is our stupid troll, Hypocrite, who chooses to display astonishing ignorance in every sentence of that post.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/09/2012 7:47 Comments || Top||

#9  #4 Jesus was born a Jew, and chose to turn against god. What?

The one kid isn't too good at math but then he doesn't really need math in the new world does he?

A widespread social and educational Hurricane Katrina and Sandy on a widespread. The country is screwed.

One thing to consider is what happens when the jihadists (or anyone else) decides to attack the US and there is no military to respond because no one is re-upping and it has been gutted? Conflict resolution? Negotiation? Kumbaya.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/09/2012 8:04 Comments || Top||

#10  A widespread social and educational Hurricane Katrina and Sandy. on a widespread. The country is screwed.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/09/2012 8:06 Comments || Top||

#11  I believe this election was about a black President. Dems are trying to demoralize and libertarians and social conservatives are blaming each other hoping for control over the GOP. Having said that I would like to see a few modifications to GOP positions.

(1) Republicans need to accept Gay marriage. Younger generation believes in it so strongly it is only a matter of time. Cut the losses and draw a line where it intrudes upon church freedoms.

(2) Republicans need to accept cannibas legalization as well. It is harmless in the eyes if most and hurts nobody but the user. Draw the line at harder stuff and otherwise treat it as booze as far as laws go (in states thst legslize it).

(4) Republicans need to draw the abortion battle differently. Insist that mothers get an ultrasound for health reasons before an abortion. Mothers that see am ultrasound tend to see a baby and change their mind. Force Dems into fighting against this, make them explsin that an ultrasound shows a baby and not tissue. Yes many doctors would break the rule and not do thevultrasound but the arguement iscwinnable as ultrasounds get better and better.

(5) Republicans need to hammer the immigration issue by attacking red tape that make it tough for legak immigrants to get work visas and citizenship and push for civics and English to help them prosper. Turn the illegal argument into one about cutting in line, they can get to the end and try like everybody else. Then position the dems as niave tools of Mexicsn oligarchs and sex trafficers.
Posted by: Rjschwarz || 11/09/2012 8:14 Comments || Top||

#12  #7 Klik hier. Besoeker, the D-bomb has dropped and exploded. The D-Bomb being the "dumb bomb?" The D-bomb is the enemy of a free society. Politicians who get elected such as recently rely upon an uninformed electorate--in fact they promote such a society.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/09/2012 8:17 Comments || Top||

#13 

Money Tree - by Kilgore Trout

Trout, incidentally, had written a book about a money tree. It had twenty-dollar bills for leaves. Its flowers were government bonds. Its fruit was diamonds. It attracted human beings who killed each other around the roots and made very good fertilizer.
So it goes.
(Trout - AKA Kurt V.)


The Big Board - by Kilgore Trout

¬... It was about an Earthling man and woman who were kidnapped by extra-terrestrials. They were put on display in a zoo on a planet called Zircon-212.

These fictitious people in the zoo had a big board supposedly showing stock market quotations and comodity prices along one wall of their habitat, and a news ticker, and a telephone that was supposedly connected to a brokerage on Earth. The creatures on Zircon-212 told their captives that they had invested a million dollars for them back on Earth, and that it was up to the captives to manage it so that they would be fabulously wealthy when they were returned to Earth.
The telephone and the big board and the ticker were all fakes, of course. They were simply stimulants to make the Earthlings perform vividly for the crowds at the zoo¬--to make them jump up and down and cheer, or gloat, or sulk, or tear their hair, to be scared shitless or to feel as contented as babies in their mothers¬' arms.
The Earthlings did very well on paper. That was part of the rigging, of course. And religion got mixed up in it, too. The news ticker reminded them that the President of the United States had declared National Prayer Week, and that everybody should pray. The Earthlings had had a bad week on the market before that. They had lost a small fortune in olive oil futures. So they gave praying a whirl.
It worked. Olive oil went up.

Posted by: Water Modem || 11/09/2012 9:15 Comments || Top||

#14  Then there is: "Venus on the Half-Shell is a science fiction novel by Philip José Farmer, writing pseudonymously as "Kilgore Trout">

In this version one of the stops is the planet of free lunch...

Another disaster area was the planet with such wide ranging laws with strong sentences that everybody on the planet was in jail.

Posted by: Water Modem || 11/09/2012 9:22 Comments || Top||

#15  The election was about none of those things Richard.

Mitt Romney could have been a single, gaye republican, pot smoking black transvestite from Mexico (with questionable birth certificate and secret college transcripts) and he would still have been defeated by the Chicago machine. The election was simply about control.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/09/2012 9:33 Comments || Top||

#16  I second most, if not all, of Rjschwarz's points.

No question this election was about re-electing the first black president. How else do we explain the record high voter turnout for the Dems despite most polls showing an enthusiasm gap favoring the Repubs? Those who elected 0bama in 2008 had a lot to lose in this election. Among the obvious government programs, hand-outs, and what-not that they favor, their pride was at stake and pride can be a strong motivator. There was no way they were going to let the first black administration go down as a failed, one-term presidency on their watch, lest they look like fools for voting him into office in the first place.

Re #1: Long term, opposition to gay marriage is a losing issue for the GOP for two major reasons: 1) Younger generations like myself (I'm in my late thirties) have been exposed to gay relationships and have no inherent problem with them. Some of the most stable and loving relationships that I know of happen to be gay couples. 2) The population growth of most urban areas is outpacing suburban and rural areas (Detroit being one obvious exception, among a few others). The demographics of these urban areas happen to be more diverse and liberal. Just look at the map of red/blue voting results by county and it's fairly obvious that the more populous urban counties pushed swing states into the blue column. Whereas 20-30+ years ago, people were moving out of cities and into the suburbs, the reverse is now true.

Re #2: Totally agree. Anyone who has been around cannabis at all will tell you that it is no more/less harmful than alcohol, both in it's impact on the individual and society at large. If properly regulated and taxed, it could prove to be a decent source of revenue (and God knows we need all the revenue we can get).

Re #3: The abortion battle needs to recognize that most women today are pro-choice and the chances of that ever changing is slim to none (and I think slim just left town). How else do we explain the huge gap in the female vote between 0bama and Romney? For better or worse, abortion is here to stay. Which means, in my opinion, that Repubs must put the emphasis on choice. Let me explain. If abortion is a choice, then it should not be funded in any way by the government (i.e. the taxpayer). Furthermore, religious institutions, employers, and other private enterprises that choose not to fund or offer abortion are exercising their choice. It is not discrimination, as much as the liberals want to claim so. If conservatives agree not to infringe upon an individual's choice to get an abortion, then liberals must agree not to infringe upon an individual's choice not to provide for it.

Re #4: What Rjschwarz said.
Posted by: eltoroverde || 11/09/2012 10:11 Comments || Top||

#17  Judeo-Christian values is what made this nation the most blessed nation in the history of mankind. Cesspool values are returning this nation and the world back to a spinning ball of hell.

But that is predicted in the prophetic scriptures associated with Judeo-Christian values.
Posted by: Theanter de Medici9194 || 11/09/2012 10:53 Comments || Top||

#18  That would be "Dreams From my Father" Tribal cesspool values Theanter de Medici9194. Basic, garden variety headman Tribal values!
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/09/2012 11:15 Comments || Top||

#19  I don't discount Besoeker's point about Chicago-style, machine politics at the national level here. At the same time, if the Republican's can't convince voters in the more populated urban areas of swing states to vote for them, despite the economic challenges in front of us, they have a problem on their hands and it's not a small one.
Posted by: eltoroverde || 11/09/2012 11:16 Comments || Top||

#20  The Urban political party understands control eltoroverde. They've been exercising it in Chicago and surrounding counties for nearly over one hundred years. Republican voter apathy runs rampant when the urgan megalopolis and electoral college renders their vote of no consequence. The democratic party is fully aware of the dynamic and advantages it at every opportunity. So-called Swing States were specifically provided long-term targeting and those already in the collective bag (such as, California, Washington, Vermont, Oregon, New Mexico) were little heard from.

The Framers of the Constitution never envisioned huge city states or an ethnically fractured population. Their vision was that of America being Americans, not some collection of divided and hyphenated subspecies.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/09/2012 11:33 Comments || Top||

#21  I think some of the points raised here are just dancing around the margins. Legal pot, ok, fine. I'm for legalizing everything--but no one cares.

The Tea Party was a spontaneous uprising over what? Pot? No! Lower taxes, less spending, smaller government. Those are our issues. Everything else is on the margin. Problem is that no one is the mainstream GOP believes in any of this. Just listen to that idiot Boehner wrapping his lips around Champ's anus. It's maddening (though, if the rumors are true, Barack is enjoying it).
Posted by: Iblis || 11/09/2012 11:41 Comments || Top||

#22  2 Points:

The Tea Party represents the greatest threat to American politics today. Why? Because its ideas are not ideology based and transcend both parties. This is Power! That is why the Dem's demonize it so strongly. The Republicans didn't see this soon enough. The best thing that can happen is for the Tea Party to somehow "infect" the Dem's. But it will be difficult because their propaganda campaign really hurt the Tea Party.

If my party changes it values, it is no longer my party! This is what the opposition wants. IT is decay and the slow death, because the opposition dictates your position.
Posted by: jefe101 || 11/09/2012 11:48 Comments || Top||

#23  Disagree, rj. You do those things and we will cease to exist as a nation. But then we probably already have.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 11/09/2012 11:49 Comments || Top||

#24  After this election, I said well the Republicans had a reasonably good candidate, a good man who fought the good fight. Unfortunately, Obama did not observe the good fight rules. The Democrats left their election machine in place across the country after the 2008 election. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Meanwhile, the Republicans were going through the primaries trying to decide upon a suitable candidate. Meanwhile the Democrats set out to kill any Republican who started to emerge as a viable candidate. If they could not dig up dirt, they made it up. Bimbos who thought they had sex with one of the Republican candidates came out of the woodwork and disappeared just as quickly after the damage was done. A person's sealed divorce records--no problem. A person worked hard all his life and did everything right--no problem, that can be easily turned into a negative. The MSM went along with all of this. This is the machine is what the Republicans are dealing with. The Republicans showed up late for a boxing match and the Democrats showed up early for an eye-gouging, ear-biting, sucker-punching nut grabbing street fight. If I believed in the devil, I would think he looked like the Democratic Party.

The Democrats have won elections by promising people things--no matter than many of the promises were so much hot air to get elected. That said, I sat back and asked myself, suppose a third party emerged which was the party of everything. It even made the current crop of leftist Democrats appear to be conservative. It would be the party of everything for everybody. I started to think about this and frankly, the thought was frightening. Open borders, unlimited pot and yes why not other drugs too? Abortion on demand anytime? Fine. Just let your mind roam and consider all the possibilities. Who could refuse such a party (sarc on)? The Democrats would be hard-pressed playing catch up.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/09/2012 12:32 Comments || Top||

#25  Ebbang Uluque6305 consider this song from the 1920's... or earlier.... Then consider that every block in major cites used to have a whorehouse... It's never been that mythical upright country...


Posted by: Water Modem || 11/09/2012 12:37 Comments || Top||

#26  What is different Ebbang Uluque6305 is that voting was once the sole privilege of property owning men.
Posted by: Water Modem || 11/09/2012 12:38 Comments || Top||

#27  Put in other words... if you were successful enough to own property you had your own castle and full rights.

If you were not able to own property... tough titties. That was the whole game.

Posted by: Water Modem || 11/09/2012 12:42 Comments || Top||

#28  once the electorate was expanded "Free Lunch" was only a matter of time.
Posted by: Water Modem || 11/09/2012 12:46 Comments || Top||

#29  So what you're saying, Water Modem, is that all we can have in a society is either pre-Arthurian chaos Briton or Edward Longshanks?

Sorry, there are more choices than that. History is full of them.
Posted by: no mo uro || 11/09/2012 12:58 Comments || Top||

#30  no mo uro - then it needs to be designed not to be chaos. It isn't our society was designed for the castle model. When the serfs/slaves were freed the model was not changed. In a sense the end is just at matter of time. I am not advocating one or another just making the point. It wasn't well thought out.
Posted by: Water Modem || 11/09/2012 13:04 Comments || Top||

#31  This guy talks about how he and his artist friends are getting government grants and funding. Who is paying for all this?

*THAT* is where the Stimulus money went. To literally buy votes for Obama.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/09/2012 13:04 Comments || Top||

#32  Personally I kind of like the 'Starship Troopers' model.

If you want to be a citizen and be able to vote you have to *earn* it - by doing joining the service or doing some significant personal contribution (and not simply buying it).

Be a Producer and not a Moocher (like the people in the video) or a Looter or Destroyer.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/09/2012 13:09 Comments || Top||

#33 
The official 2012 results.
Posted by: Bugs Uleger6376 || 11/09/2012 13:09 Comments || Top||

#34  Looking at the map, do we have representation or not?
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/09/2012 13:37 Comments || Top||

#35  Impressive results. I have an idea. If you are conservative and unemployed, move to a blue area. Change the demographic, change the result. We are only really talking about one or two counties in each state. Conservative parents send your kids to targeted schools in blue areas where the college is a significant voting populace compared to the locals. Change the demo of the college and affect the local vote. It is not necessary to change the party platform, only change the voting demographic in targeted counties. This should have started on Nov. 7.
Posted by: jefe101 || 11/09/2012 13:44 Comments || Top||

#36  No. But if you are a liberal, I wouldn't leave town after dark.
Posted by: wr || 11/09/2012 13:44 Comments || Top||

#37  Comment 36 was in reply to comment 34.
Posted by: wr || 11/09/2012 13:49 Comments || Top||

#38  obamazombies
Posted by: European Conservative || 11/09/2012 13:52 Comments || Top||

#39  Heck wr - In some of those liberal cities its not safe to leave your *home* after dark!
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/09/2012 14:18 Comments || Top||

#40  Interesting... so the Jersey shore that was trashed by the storm voted red.
Posted by: Water Modem || 11/09/2012 14:39 Comments || Top||

#41  CrazyFool, the problem with the Starship Troopers model is the military still has its REMFs and they can protect the elites so it would be a matter of them suffering through a safe 2 year desk job. The military would be worse for it as the tail grew ten times larger than the teeth as the march through the institutions continued into the military.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 11/09/2012 15:34 Comments || Top||

#42  That map carries an and significant historical feature. The blue swath thru the middle of the otherwise Red South. That's the Cotton Belt. It has persisted since Eli Whitney tried to destroy the country.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/09/2012 15:56 Comments || Top||

#43  Iblis, In my four point post (with the misnumbering) I didn't include economic issues because the Republicans should not change their stance on that very much. I would suggest they agree to increase taxes on those making over 500k (as 8 of the 10 wealthiest counties voted for Obama) and demand a tax on wealth and not earnings so as to save the budget. Thus turning the Dems into the 1% and the ones fighting the tax increase. Read that idea somewhere recently and I really like it.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 11/09/2012 20:08 Comments || Top||

#44  If the Republican Party becomes pro-abortion, I will leave the Republican Party. Simple as that. This is a foundational belief and I will not abandon it.
Posted by: Secret Master || 11/09/2012 21:04 Comments || Top||

#45  I never suggested that the Republicans become pro-abortion, just that they fight the battle using ultrasounds as the better ultrasounds become the less likely a woman is to abort. Dems know this which is why they fight mandatory ultrasounds.
Posted by: Rjschwarz || 11/09/2012 21:42 Comments || Top||

#46  Your probably right rjschwarz - but it would be a damn sight better than these useless moochers.

Ever notice how these people always talk about 'me... me... me... I want... I get...'? Selfish bastards aren't they?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/09/2012 22:07 Comments || Top||

#47  While I may have used the word "I" twice in the above statement CrazyFool, it has never been in my personal interests to oppose abortion. Quite the contrary: it has cost me friends and customers over the years. But killing children for the crime of being inconvenient always has been, and always will be, wrong.

With that said, Rjschwarz's point about fighting intelligently is an intelligent one.
Posted by: Secret Master || 11/09/2012 22:19 Comments || Top||

#48  I do not think these points address the problem. It is bandaid politics. The countries demographic is changing. The population growing the fastest is hispanic. Hispanic's are social conservatives. Yet hispaanics, which should be in Rep camp are not. The first 3 of RJ's points don't matter to them, the 4th does. The Rep's have let the Dem's define them for to long. The Rep's need a real effort to fix the Dem definition. 2 years ago in a suburb of Seattle, next to boeing, Dem's (who were white old ladies and did not speek Spanish) were canvassing with spanish language newspapers in a hispanic neighborhood in Seattle. I never saw a Rep in the 4 years prior to the election in any neighborhood.
Posted by: jefe101 || 11/09/2012 23:39 Comments || Top||


-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
FEMA's shelters to not keep out bitter cold
Posted by: Frozen Al || 11/09/2012 12:52 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [215 views] Top||

#1  NYC, Long Island impose gas rationing for indefinite period.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 11/09/2012 15:35 Comments || Top||

#2  You know in upstate New York is all sorts of cold weather field equipment [tentage, generators, etc] at the 10th Mountain Division at Fort Drum. Of course, it would come with the uniform personnel which apparently the mayor wants no presence of.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/09/2012 16:10 Comments || Top||

#3  You demanded shelter, we gave you shelter. You said nothing about wanting heat. You want heat? Ask Conn-Ed. Maybe they can help you.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/09/2012 16:12 Comments || Top||

#4  Sandy's damage to tri-state area refineries has reduced their output to just 58.5 percent of capacity. And that may be the lowest level of east coast refinery output recorded in many years.
No time frame has been published for restoration of this output.

In New York, NBC News' Chriso Glorioso reports that as a result of the problems at Bayway and other storm-damaged petroleum terminals, many delivery trucks must fill up with wholesale gasoline at terminals in the Philadelphia area, severely delaying shipments to New York and New Jersey gas stations.

¬"The south Jersey terminals are so overwhelmed that they are finding there is a three-, four- and five-hour wait to pull the truck under the rack and fill and then another two-hour trip back,¬" said Sal Risalvato, executive director of the New Jersey Gasoline Convenience Store Automotive Association.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 11/09/2012 17:16 Comments || Top||

#5  Curious that fuel prices continue to drop.
Posted by: Skidmark || 11/09/2012 17:53 Comments || Top||


FEMA office on Staten Island closes 'due to weather'
[NY Post] Looks as if FEMA is just a fair- weather friend.

Yesterday¬'s nor¬'easter proved too much for the Federal Emergency Management Agency¬'s aid location in Tottenville, SI ¬-- which hung a sign reading ¬"Closed due to weather¬" as the wintery storm blew into town.

Ten FEMA centers in the area reportedly suspended operations because of the storm, although the location with the sign at the Mount Loretto Community Center did open at noon.
Posted by: Fred || 11/09/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [216 views] Top||

#1  Hopefully the Regime has taken steps to keep our FEMA biscuits dry. These non-transferable soylent coupons will be worthless if the biscuits are spoiled.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/09/2012 6:05 Comments || Top||

#2  Does FEMA do anything useful in a disaster?
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/09/2012 7:21 Comments || Top||


Economy
Va. gov orders 4 percent agency cuts
Posted by: Au Auric || 11/09/2012 12:28 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [199 views] Top||


California Voters Approve Higher Taxes
[Online.WSJ] In approving a ballot measure sought by Gov. Jerry Governor Moonbeam Brown
... those who ignore history are bound to repeat it ...
to raise taxes for several years, Caliphornians took a step toward improving the state's fiscal situation and avoiding education cuts.

According to the Caliphornia Secretary of State's website, 53.9% of voters backed the measure, Proposition 30, while 46.1% voted against it, with all votes counted except for provisional and some mailed-in ballots.

The approval is a significant victory for Mr. Brown, a Democrat, who has staked his governorship on a campaign to raise taxes to ease the effects of the state's budget crunch.
Posted by: Fred || 11/09/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [229 views] Top||

#1  would love to see the tax returns of those who voted for and against this...an Alexis de Tocqueville quote comes to mind
Posted by: Broadhead6 || 11/09/2012 0:57 Comments || Top||

#2  Great! Now CA can afford more welfare!
Posted by: gorb || 11/09/2012 3:01 Comments || Top||

#3  I'm thinking theres some there in the hills (Beverly Hills) that should be willing to surrender some of their next film rights...
Posted by: Skidmark || 11/09/2012 4:20 Comments || Top||

#4  Reality will be a different outcome. Nothing is fixed. Just more problems.
Posted by: Dale || 11/09/2012 8:28 Comments || Top||

#5  Prop 30 was presented as a way to fully fund schools. The dirty secret was the only thing in education that was going to get money was the teachers retirement pension fund. I don't mind that, teaching in this PC society with all of the liberal agenda crap is hard even for a liberal.

The irony in all of this is that Brown was talking about what winning Prop 30 meant and he was talking about closing the budget deficit, funding the bullet train to nowhere, and several other liberal agenda programs and NEVER mentioned schools in his interview with the Left Coast Times...

I think Prop 30 will go down as the biggest screw job ever pulled on a state AND a state union in history.

I can't wait for the bloodbath as Jerry spends the money on every thing but education.
Posted by: Bill Clinton || 11/09/2012 9:13 Comments || Top||

#6  "Great! Now CA can afford more welfare!"

Exactly.
Posted by: Raider || 11/09/2012 9:20 Comments || Top||

#7  Parents should fund their children's education not taxpayers.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 11/09/2012 9:21 Comments || Top||

#8  I can't convince Mrs. Uluque to move to Texas. I'm screwed.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 11/09/2012 11:54 Comments || Top||

#9  Greece-high, or Japan-high???

Just askin'.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/09/2012 21:10 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Project ORCA: How Romney completely screwed up his own GOTV effort
Shooting the wounded...
Posted by: Frozen Al || 11/09/2012 13:50 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [200 views] Top||


Obama's Victory Is Very Bullish For This Google Search Query
Posted by: tipper || 11/09/2012 12:29 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [212 views] Top||

#1  Sure, if there were somewhere to go.
Posted by: Iblis || 11/09/2012 12:51 Comments || Top||

#2  I've read that Panama, Ecudor, Thailand, Belize, and Costa Rico are good places to retire. There are states in the U.S. which are better than others to ride things out--if riding things out is still an option. Maybe, this country has gone over the edge of sanity and committed suicide. I love this country but I feel like the country is leaving many of us--not the other way around. Maybe time for a John Galt.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/09/2012 13:35 Comments || Top||

#3  mmmmmmmmm....Dagney Taggert....mmmmmmmmm....
Posted by: Uncle Phester || 11/09/2012 20:24 Comments || Top||


Vote was astronomical for Obama in some Philadelphia wards
[Philly] Some Philadelphia neighborhoods outdid themselves in Tuesday's presidential election.

In a city where President B.O. received more than 85 percent of the votes, in some places he received almost every one. In 13 Philadelphia wards, Obama received 99 percent of the vote or more.

Those wards, many with large African American populations, also swung heavily for Obama over John Maverick McCain
... the Senator-for-Life from Arizona, former presidential candidate and even more former foot soldier in the Reagan Revolution...
in 2008. But the difficult economy seemed destined to dampen that enthusiasm four years later.

Not to worry. Ward leaders and voters said they were just as motivated this time.

"In this election, you had to point out to the people what was at stake. And in many cases, they felt that the Romney doctrine was not going to favor the working man," said Edgar "Sonny" Campbell.
Posted by: Fred || 11/09/2012 11:14 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [218 views] Top||

#1  "In this election, you had to point out to the people what was at stake. And in many cases, they felt that the Romney doctrine was not going to favor the non-working man," said Edgar "Sonny" Campbell.

One minor correction as highlighted above.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/09/2012 12:04 Comments || Top||

#2  State Sen. Vincent Hughes (D. Phila.) responded swiftly. He said Philadelphians came out to vote because they were tired of the "hard-right" Republican agenda. "If they believe there was a corruption of the process, then go to court and challenge it. Show the people of Pennsylvania," Hughes said. "Beyond that, shut up."

Why give Holder more stuff to cover up?
Posted by: Bobby || 11/09/2012 12:42 Comments || Top||

#3  I thought I was going to read that Obama got 120% of the vote in some areas of Philadelphia.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/09/2012 13:10 Comments || Top||

#4  These are also the wards where GOP poll watchers were illegally kicked out.
Posted by: Shurong Clins3927 || 11/09/2012 15:17 Comments || Top||

#5  In 13 Philadelphia wards, Obama received 99 percent of the vote or more

Even the old soviets were satisfied with 90%.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/09/2012 15:54 Comments || Top||

#6  These results would have made East German communists proud.

(Columns from left to right: election date, turnout, yes votes, invalid votes)
Posted by: Elmerert Hupens2660 || 11/09/2012 19:22 Comments || Top||


Boehner: 'Obamacare is the law of the land' (+video)
Posted by: tipper || 11/09/2012 01:53 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [223 views] Top||

#1  When firms begin dropping private insurance plans and the insurance industry takes it's last dying gasp, Obamacare will be all that remains. This was always the plan, the speed of execution is what astounds me.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/09/2012 6:25 Comments || Top||

#2  The Obamacare bills have not come in yet Besoeker. A CEO was interviewed the other day and said there there is a little box on a person's W2 form that allows the government to tax health benefits as income--that is if they are fortunate enough to have a job. Many of the people who voted for Obama have not been well-informed by this transparent government (sarc). The free lunches will last for a little while and then chaos. The buying of votes works only in the short run so long as enough workers are working. We are witnessing the killing off of the premiere medical system in the world. "Greece (not the musical) can be seen on any street corner soon. This is not the country that I knew where there were opportunities and not give-aways of other people's earnings. Communism has not worked anywhere else in the world and it will not work here. It is an incentive-destroying system for the ordinary person. It works fairly well for the union elites and the elected elites in government.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/09/2012 7:44 Comments || Top||

#3  I have been thinking. IF I make both of my employees part time I don't have to figure out which one to fire completely.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 11/09/2012 7:55 Comments || Top||

#4  Snowy, yes!. Do it soon. You will be in good company. Have them subcontract or use a skin company so they are not your employee's. Hey if they quit, the skin company will send another and another. Not your problem anymore. Loyalty is gone these days. Your in a street fight to exist. The government is not there helping you succeed.
Like trying to merge into heavy traffic, what? are they gonna play nice and let you in? no way Jose!.
Posted by: Dale || 11/09/2012 8:41 Comments || Top||

#5  I attempted to explain this insurance stuff to a fellow co-worker (black) before the election, that Mr Bill will stop paying your insurance, because the penalty is less than the premiums he is currently paying (and believe me, it's a big bill he pays)... Our HSA's -- great deal -- after my deduction $1,500, everything, and I mean, everything is a total cost of $00.00. He pays $1,200 of that deduction, so our insurance costs us only $400 a year.

We also have dental and vision insurance at no cost.

And that she and her family, as a result, would get lesser benefits and big costs.... she still refuses to believe it and was H888 bent on voting for Obama, and yes, she liked Ryan, but "Romney just scares me to death." She got the message alright.
Posted by: Sherry || 11/09/2012 10:19 Comments || Top||

#6  Besoeker,
You are missing the entire point of Federally mandated health coverage. You must have employer furnished coverage, pay for coverage from an insurance company (big $$$) or go to the Govt clearinghouse and select a policy for 7% of your (gross?) income.
Those all sound like they will involve an insurance company to me. I haven't heard a peep out of the insurance lobby lately, I will continue to assume it's because they are going to make a ton of money off this new requirement.
Posted by: bigjim-CA || 11/09/2012 10:35 Comments || Top||

#7  I've been a 'Free Agent' IT worker (Project Planning and Management) for over three years now. I have solid contacts, good reputation and a decent amount of work.

This, is what a LOT of people are going to have to come to grips with. If they want to work they're going to have to become free agents. I also have tried to explain the coming chaos to several people, it's of no use. Stupid can't be fixed, and stupid combined with Leftist denial is fatal.

Going to be an interesting ride. I've started looking for a small acreage and will be selling my place in Fort Worth. Going back to the country...got to get away.
Posted by: Secret Asian Man || 11/09/2012 10:37 Comments || Top||

#8  Dale, I use subcontractors a lot already, but for the people who spend most of their time working for me, I'm not sure I can any more.

Also, the two I have are loyal.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 11/09/2012 10:54 Comments || Top||

#9  Govt clearinghouse and select a policy for 7% of your (gross?) income.
Just checked - my current medical out-of-pocket expenses plus company contribution run about 9% of gross income.
Posted by: Glenmore || 11/09/2012 11:28 Comments || Top||

#10  "The wealthiest of Americans should pay a little bit more>"

I suspect he and his handlers were thinking of 1099 folks as fitting into this category as well.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/09/2012 11:36 Comments || Top||

#11  That 7% means mine insurance goes up $2,500 to $3,000 a year and that won't include dental and vision. That won't make me a very happy camper!
Posted by: Sherry || 11/09/2012 12:21 Comments || Top||

#12  opps -- that's "my" insurance....
Posted by: Sherry || 11/09/2012 12:21 Comments || Top||

#13  Boehner should introduce legislation to remove the exemption given to Congress for ObumbleCare.

Lets see which congresscritters really believe that Obamacare is as great as they claim.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/09/2012 13:12 Comments || Top||

#14  Good idea CrazyFool.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/09/2012 13:36 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Obama supporters celebrate no more Israel
Posted by: tipper || 11/09/2012 12:21 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [212 views] Top||

#1  Should be on TV in Miami to remind the morons who always vote Dem.
Posted by: Water Modem || 11/09/2012 18:03 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Iran¬'s Ahmadinejad ridicules expense of US vote
BALI: Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad ridiculed the expense of the US election, mocking it as a ¬"battleground for capitalists¬" while speaking at a democracy forum.

Ahmadinejad¬'s own government has been criticized for human rights abuses and sanctioned for pursuing a nuclear program many suspect is aimed at obtaining weapons.

A day after Americans re-elected President Barack Obama, the Iranian president told the forum in Indonesia that democracy has become a system where the minority rules over the majority.

¬"Just take a look at the situation in Europe and the US,¬" Ahmadinejad said as the forum opened Thursday on the resort island of Bali.

An ¬"election, which is one of the manifestations of the people¬'s will, has become a battleground for the capitalists and an excuse for hasty spending.¬"

Spending on the 2012 US presidential campaign was the highest ever, soaring beyond $2 billion as independent fundraising groups financed advertising to promote their favored candidates.

Ahmadinejad¬'s criticism contrasted with other gathered leaders¬' calls for more democracy and freedoms for citizens around the world.
Posted by: tipper || 11/09/2012 02:44 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [218 views] Top||

#1  Who is going to be first to defend the US system, and congratulate the president on being the people's choice once more?

Or do we agree with Ahmadinejad?
Posted by: Glomoting Ghibelline9643 || 11/09/2012 3:13 Comments || Top||

#2  Can't fight sound bites GG.
But you know that.
Posted by: Skidmark || 11/09/2012 4:25 Comments || Top||

#3  I can't believe it!

Am I going crazy?

AM I about to convert to Islam?

Geez, I agree with the little nutjob.

He's absolutely right, the Presidency is now being sold to the highest bidder...just like Rome during the decline.
Posted by: Bill Clinton || 11/09/2012 9:14 Comments || Top||

#4  ..actually it was auctioned off during the year of the four emperors, but the empire would still ascend with Vespasian, Trajan, Hadrian, Constantine I. We're pretty much in Gracchi brothers period undermining the old constitution, awaiting our Marius, Sulla, Pompey and Caesars. They played factions (the tribes of Rome) against each other, we have our players using class and race (our tribes) to the same ends.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/09/2012 10:02 Comments || Top||

#5  GG, you purile little troll, I do agree with NutJob on this, and a rare few other points.
Posted by: bigjim-CA || 11/09/2012 10:28 Comments || Top||

#6  Doesn't take an idiot to work that out and takes an EVEN BIGGER IDIOT to announce it on a news channel as if it were first to conceive the notion.

So GG there, I think your dictator is a big idiot.
Posted by: Cretinous Humongous || 11/09/2012 14:36 Comments || Top||

#7  "say it ain't so"
The Romney Campaign was a Consultant Con Job
Posted by: tipper || 11/09/2012 21:40 Comments || Top||



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