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2021-09-16 Home Front: Politix
COVID Politics Takes a Dark Turn, Biden Administration Takes Control of Monoclonal Antibody Drugs in Order to Block Treatments in Red States and Ration Equitable Treatment
[The Last Refuge] Commies gotta Commie.
When Joe Biden’s Health and Human Services made the announcement earlier this month (LINK) that they were taking full control over Monoclonal Antibody drugs (mAb) in order to begin rationing the highly effective treatment for COVID-19 infection, several people sounded alarm bells as there was the potential for rationing of COVID treatment based on political ideology. Representative Chip Roy of Texas was one of the first to raise concerns (link).

The change in HHS approach followed republican governor Ron DeSantis of Florida promoting the use of mAb and opening up dozens of treatment centers throughout his state. Other governors quickly took notice of the effective action plan of DeSantis in Florida and started to follow that path.

As soon as HHS noticed the red state governors were working on a effective treatment alternative to the vaccine approach, HHS appears to have moved in to block it — thereby restricting the treatment pathway in order to enhance the vaccine approach. [HHS Announcement] Note the alarm word "equitable":

It took a week for the new HHS restrictions to impact the pre-existing orders. However, now Alabama is the first state to draw attention to the problem Joe Biden’s administration is creating by rationing mAb treatment and making determinations on which states should be allowed the "equitable use of the available supply"; a fancy term for "rationing" the life-saving treatment based on alignment with the political ideology of the government in control of it.
Posted by Chirong Unomoter2947 2021-09-16 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11132 views ]  Top

#1 I have planned for this for years. I have no need of their assistance.
Posted by Dale 2021-09-16 03:56||   2021-09-16 03:56|| Front Page Top

#2 It's hostage taking. Here in Florida, dems will blame DeSantis for whatever FedGov does to their loved ones, because that's all they got. Box wine auntie Bidet lover, when you are breathing your last in a hospital hallway because you don't fit the profile to go on a respirator in ICU, remember, you voted for it.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 04:03||   2021-09-16 04:03|| Front Page Top

#3 ^Vaccinated rarely need ICU. In case one does, and there is a problem, I'm sure moral unvaccinated will yield priority - after all, when you make a choice, you chose the consequences.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-09-16 04:38||   2021-09-16 04:38|| Front Page Top

#4 when you make a choice, you chose the consequences

Not actually true in privatize the gains, socialize the risks America.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 04:42||   2021-09-16 04:42|| Front Page Top

#5 
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-09-16 04:48||   2021-09-16 04:48|| Front Page Top

#6 Were the people who cooked up COVID "moral?"
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 04:54||   2021-09-16 04:54|| Front Page Top

#7 I hope this isn't true, because if it is there is something much more sinister taking place here.
Posted by Besoeker 2021-09-16 05:02||   2021-09-16 05:02|| Front Page Top

#8 Of course it's true. Only way to change it is for the states to strangle the federal gummint. Which could be... interesting...
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 05:15||   2021-09-16 05:15|| Front Page Top

#9 
Posted by Thumper Uliter7590 2021-09-16 05:30||   2021-09-16 05:30|| Front Page Top

#10 Simple ignorance can often be mistaken for maliciousness. But in this case, I think TU7590 has nailed it.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 05:37||   2021-09-16 05:37|| Front Page Top

#11 
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-09-16 06:37||   2021-09-16 06:37|| Front Page Top

#12 I'm a zealot. Because another zealot says so. Got it?
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 06:39||   2021-09-16 06:39|| Front Page Top

#13 Ad hominem attacks? That's be the guy who calls people monkeys? I haven't done that, myself...
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 06:40||   2021-09-16 06:40|| Front Page Top

#14 "You are not in love with my ideations." You are a piece of filth."

Hokaaaaaaay...
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 06:41||   2021-09-16 06:41|| Front Page Top

#15 The substance of my remarks:

Worldometer is God.

Excel is my Savior.

If this ever ends nobody will care about me, so it must never end.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 06:45||   2021-09-16 06:45|| Front Page Top

#16 Keep digging, MM. Keep digging.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-09-16 06:47||   2021-09-16 06:47|| Front Page Top

#17 I'm not even getting warmed up. Are you saying you will be on the committee that puts me up against a wall?

Bring it.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 06:48||   2021-09-16 06:48|| Front Page Top

#18 I've never tested positive for COVID, going back to before vaccines. I'm vaccinated. Of course I could still get it and die, because that's what our wonderful US gummint let Fauxi fund. But in the meanwhile, I will not be bowing to any athiest number crunchers.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 06:51||   2021-09-16 06:51|| Front Page Top

#19 
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-09-16 06:52||   2021-09-16 06:52|| Front Page Top

#20 
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-09-16 06:54||   2021-09-16 06:54|| Front Page Top

#21 
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 06:55||   2021-09-16 06:55|| Front Page Top

#22 
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 06:57||   2021-09-16 06:57|| Front Page Top

#23 I am a f*cking lunatic. I embrace that. There is a life beyond numberz. You are free to make bad choices in a truly free world. Thanks, B for sorting it out.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 07:05||   2021-09-16 07:05|| Front Page Top

#24 Seems B's nice Afrikaans comment went away. It lives on in the aether.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 07:08||   2021-09-16 07:08|| Front Page Top

#25 I was not referring to you Murc. I am just growing weary of the daily harshing from another poster.
Posted by Besoeker 2021-09-16 07:09||   2021-09-16 07:09|| Front Page Top

#26 "Dr. Freud, what do you think of a strictly numerical approach to understanding the human psyche?"

"Schnork..."
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 07:11||   2021-09-16 07:11|| Front Page Top

#27 Your post was elegant and on point. It's a shame it got swallowed up, B.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 07:12||   2021-09-16 07:12|| Front Page Top

#28 
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-09-16 07:12||   2021-09-16 07:12|| Front Page Top

#29 You may be right
I may be crazy
But it just may be a LUUUUUUUnatic yo' lookin' for....

(and we all enjoyed the weekend for a change...)
Posted by Unuter Gurly-Brown8846 2021-09-16 07:12||   2021-09-16 07:12|| Front Page Top

#30 G, how is it the same world that must fund gain of function viruses cannot also have people who choose not to get vaccinated? One idiocy vs another, eh?
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 07:15||   2021-09-16 07:15|| Front Page Top

#31 Fantastic song.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 07:16||   2021-09-16 07:16|| Front Page Top

#32 
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 07:19||   2021-09-16 07:19|| Front Page Top

#33 
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-09-16 07:21||   2021-09-16 07:21|| Front Page Top

#34 I'm sorry, Dave I can't do that..
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 07:21||   2021-09-16 07:21|| Front Page Top

#35 
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 07:23||   2021-09-16 07:23|| Front Page Top

#36 
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 07:26||   2021-09-16 07:26|| Front Page Top

#37 
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-09-16 07:28||   2021-09-16 07:28|| Front Page Top

#38 
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 07:30||   2021-09-16 07:30|| Front Page Top

#39 
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 07:32||   2021-09-16 07:32|| Front Page Top

#40 
Posted by g(r)omgoru PB 2021-09-16 08:56||   2021-09-16 08:56|| Front Page Top

#41 
Posted by M. Murcek  2021-09-16 09:00||   2021-09-16 09:00|| Front Page Top

#42 
Posted by M. Murcek  2021-09-16 09:01||   2021-09-16 09:01|| Front Page Top

#43 You know, MM, you're the only male English Lit graduate I've ever met.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-09-16 09:17||   2021-09-16 09:17|| Front Page Top

#44 
Posted by Vespasian Ebboting9735 2021-09-16 09:51||   2021-09-16 09:51|| Front Page Top

#45 Hmmm. Knows im an English Lit. diplomate. Looked me up like that badass Pappy did.
Posted by M. Murcek  2021-09-16 09:57||   2021-09-16 09:57|| Front Page Top

#46 
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-09-16 10:02||   2021-09-16 10:02|| Front Page Top

#47 
Posted by M. Murcek  2021-09-16 10:04||   2021-09-16 10:04|| Front Page Top

#48 Yeah, English degree. Worked as a reporter out of college, drifted into IT, knack for languages, ya know. Not really afraid of the math thugs on the school yard. They don't bring anything I've been unable to manage...
Posted by M. Murcek  2021-09-16 10:07||   2021-09-16 10:07|| Front Page Top

#49 
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-09-16 10:10||   2021-09-16 10:10|| Front Page Top

#50 
Posted by M. Murcek  2021-09-16 10:12||   2021-09-16 10:12|| Front Page Top

#51 I feel better all the time.
Posted by M. Murcek  2021-09-16 10:13||   2021-09-16 10:13|| Front Page Top

#52 
Posted by 3dc 2021-09-16 11:24||   2021-09-16 11:24|| Front Page Top

#53 Any competent state governor should know how to deal with this kind of rationing. Something along the lines of: "Our great state of X has so far administered X thousand doses of monoclonal antibodies to high risk newly diagnosed COVID-19 patients, with good results. Now we are not being supplied properly, by federal edict, to continue our good work. People of X, contact your congressional representatives and particularly the President if you want this bad situation corrected."
Posted by Bubba Lover of the Faeries8843 2021-09-16 11:25||   2021-09-16 11:25|| Front Page Top

#54 Shoot shoot
Posted by M. Murcek  2021-09-16 11:27||   2021-09-16 11:27|| Front Page Top

#55 
republican governor Ron DeSantis of Florida promoting the use of mAb and opening up dozens of treatment centers throughout his state.
Florida has been ahead of the pack and has done this since the first EUA for monoclonal antibodies was issued in Nov. 2020. Other states have failed abysmally to even provide the minimum of publicity and coordination to get the treatments available to those who could benefit from them. My own state health department didn't even answer my query about this.
Posted by Bubba Lover of the Faeries8843 2021-09-16 11:28||   2021-09-16 11:28|| Front Page Top

#56 Oops, wrong link. Shoot shoot...
Posted by M. Murcek  2021-09-16 11:30||   2021-09-16 11:30|| Front Page Top

#57 I've really got to get a fast ride outta here...
Posted by M. Murcek  2021-09-16 11:32||   2021-09-16 11:32|| Front Page Top

#58 Two 45s would do the trick and pay the bill.
Posted by M. Murcek  2021-09-16 11:34||   2021-09-16 11:34|| Front Page Top

#59 Voted for Bidet? You can't have this. Listen to the immediate screeching.
Posted by M. Murcek  2021-09-16 12:16||   2021-09-16 12:16|| Front Page Top

#60 wow, it's like watching a long rally in tennis... whew
Posted by 746 2021-09-16 13:43||   2021-09-16 13:43|| Front Page Top

#61 I'm tired of being called a lier by someone who promotes posts that are lies themselves.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2021-09-16 15:03||   2021-09-16 15:03|| Front Page Top

#62 I hate flame wars. Watch me exercise my moderator privilege all over this thread to show you how much I hate flame wars.
Posted by trailing wife 2021-09-16 15:29||   2021-09-16 15:29|| Front Page Top

#63 Done.
Posted by trailing wife 2021-09-16 15:51||   2021-09-16 15:51|| Front Page Top

#64 Bravo TW!
Posted by 3dc 2021-09-16 16:08||   2021-09-16 16:08|| Front Page Top

#65 tw feel free to delete any of mine you feel need to be deleted. I just got tired and pissed at continually being called a lier.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2021-09-16 16:37||   2021-09-16 16:37|| Front Page Top

#66 Boy howdy you boys really got into it
Looks like a near Biblical slanging match
All we needed was Raj and i would have paid money to watch this real time
NFL defensive backs have nothing on you guys when it comes to smack
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom  2021-09-16 16:52||   2021-09-16 16:52|| Front Page Top

#67 Now, throw Murat and even .Com into the mix and then we've really got something.
Posted by Rex Mundi 2021-09-16 17:42||   2021-09-16 17:42|| Front Page Top

#68 When I was a newspaper reporter, my boss told me "You don't get blue penciled, you aren't writing enough..."
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 17:59||   2021-09-16 17:59|| Front Page Top

#69 
It is bad to see an agent of influence loose his influence; Where did we go wrong in his training?
Oh, such a sorry sight, a disgrace; We told him to remove himself from this venue no more than a month ago, Not to bother the nice people here at RB. Now this, it is a disgrace, such vitriol. Our theory is the Covid shots have torn into his brain tissue, minor strokes, blood clots, his irrationalities, hallucinations, misplaced grandeur, omnipotence, loss of civility are signs of a mind off balance, and I am not sure if he will ever recover...
Posted by Fearless Leader1948 2021-09-16 18:21||   2021-09-16 18:21|| Front Page Top

#70 #3 ^Vaccinated rarely need ICU. In case one does, and there is a problem, I'm sure moral unvaccinated will yield priority - after all, when you make a choice, you chose the consequences.

Making informed choices these days in light of the lack of knowledge, misinformation/disinformation, propaganda, political jockeying make decisions a risky crap shoot for the individual.
Posted by JohnQC 2021-09-16 18:23||   2021-09-16 18:23|| Front Page Top

#71 I had a stroke in 1996. My brain blew up a long time ago.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 18:24||   2021-09-16 18:24|| Front Page Top

#72 
Sorry MM for your past experience/medical issue.
My comment was directed to/about G; The last serious personality assessment I/FL engaged in with G.
Just as well, intensity does not win hearts and minds, rationality on the subject of Covid is hard to find.
This article illustrates that point.
Posted by Fearless Leader1948 2021-09-16 18:36||   2021-09-16 18:36|| Front Page Top

#73 I'm cleaning up my act. TW doesn't need the trouble and I get nowhere casting pearls before swine. I'll comment on culture and send hot rock'n'roll links.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 18:40||   2021-09-16 18:40|| Front Page Top

#74 My stroke was a rare one, in the cerebellum. my cerebrum (consciousness, higher function) was not involved. Figured I'd get it out there before some snarkmaster started in on my intellectual impairment - which I have and come by naturally...
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 18:47||   2021-09-16 18:47|| Front Page Top

#75 I'll comment on culture and send hot rock'n'roll links.

Allow me:

Posted by badanov 2021-09-16 18:47||   2021-09-16 18:47|| Front Page Top

#76 You da man.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 18:48||   2021-09-16 18:48|| Front Page Top

#77 Got the Flying V and Explorer, traded away the Thunderbird Bass a few years ago.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 18:50||   2021-09-16 18:50|| Front Page Top

#78 ^^^^
Right On !

Yeee HHHaaaa!
Posted by Fearless Leader1948 2021-09-16 18:54||   2021-09-16 18:54|| Front Page Top

#79 My new culture oriented bent.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 18:57||   2021-09-16 18:57|| Front Page Top

#80 Buck's Boogie.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 19:12||   2021-09-16 19:12|| Front Page Top

#81 Information is not knowledge.
Knowledge is not wisdom.
Wisdom is not truth.
Truth is not beauty.
Beauty is not love.
Love is not music.
Music is THE BEST.

- The Girl on the Bus, Joe's Garage
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 19:26||   2021-09-16 19:26|| Front Page Top

#82 Best guitar solo ever.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 19:33||   2021-09-16 19:33|| Front Page Top

#83 79 * 80

Both are just right,
* Hot Fishing Lady
- Your poetry needs something... 3 Beers, yeah, that's it... I'm going for some... catch you again on the flip side of the album.
Posted by Fearless Leader1948 2021-09-16 19:42||   2021-09-16 19:42|| Front Page Top

#84 I'm a Wild Turkey 101 guy, Explains my hard edges.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 19:47||   2021-09-16 19:47|| Front Page Top

#85 Hook into a snapper...
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 19:48||   2021-09-16 19:48|| Front Page Top

#86 FL1948 - We still flip records over. We kick ass.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 19:56||   2021-09-16 19:56|| Front Page Top

#87 I miss the old sink trap where hostile comments were dumped. At least then i could make sense of a thread like this one.
Posted by rjschwarz 2021-09-16 20:54||   2021-09-16 20:54|| Front Page Top

#88 Part of me agrees, but the bigger part says let it go.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 20:58||   2021-09-16 20:58|| Front Page Top

#89 The truth, like murder, will out.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 21:00||   2021-09-16 21:00|| Front Page Top

#90 I've said stuff I'm ashamed of. Not in a long while and never here. Take that as you will...
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 21:19||   2021-09-16 21:19|| Front Page Top

#91 I don' wanna know...
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-16 21:42||   2021-09-16 21:42|| Front Page Top

#92 I know there’s a pony in here somewhere
Posted by KBK 2021-09-16 22:50||   2021-09-16 22:50|| Front Page Top

#93 Me this morning: "Yikes, this is gonna get bad."
Me this evening: "Dammit, I miss all the good stuff!"
Hardly true, though... thank you, each and every one.
Posted by Vortigern de Medici9432 2021-09-16 23:28||   2021-09-16 23:28|| Front Page Top

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