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2021-08-25 Science & Technology

Did The FDA stretch the truth and the Vax is still Experimental?

QUESTION OF THE DAY.

Did The FDA stretch the truth and the VAX is actually still Experimental?

Posted by NN2N1 2021-08-25 07:24|| || Front Page|| [11138 views ] Top

#1 Same FDA that routinely keeps cancer patients in limbo for years over treatments.

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-25 08:38|| 2021-08-25 08:38|| Front Page Top

#2 In the U.S., 364 million doses have been given so far.

So, if there was something negative, it would become obvious by now.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-25 09:40|| 2021-08-25 09:40|| Front Page Top

#3 I think the vaxx panic idiots are sound and fury, which is what the media wants. Most of the data indicates the vaxxes are worthwhile and disappointing at the same time.

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-25 09:57|| 2021-08-25 09:57|| Front Page Top

#4 COVID vaccine protection wanes within six months, say UK researchers

Day, Pound Sterling, ...?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-25 09:59|| 2021-08-25 09:59|| Front Page Top

#5 We are all dying every day since we were born. Some of us have been dying harder than others. The COVID religion that death can be eradicated is something some overrated blogger is excited about. The rest of us, not so much.

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-25 10:04|| 2021-08-25 10:04|| Front Page Top

#6 Thought experiment: If an infusion of aborted fetal tissue would give you permanent immunity to COVID, would you want it?

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-25 10:06|| 2021-08-25 10:06|| Front Page Top

#7 #6
(a) It can't.
(b) Hope wrong people don't see your post.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-25 10:08|| 2021-08-25 10:08|| Front Page Top

#8 Hypotheticals cancel out the "It can't." Look up life extension. Those pilgrims will try anything.

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-25 10:09|| 2021-08-25 10:09|| Front Page Top

#9 #4 On the other hand, USA researchers - from CDC itself itself - still haven't grasped that efficiency declines with time.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-25 10:11|| 2021-08-25 10:11|| Front Page Top

#10 Ref #6: It may aid memory retention and the onset of chronic Bidenese.

Posted by Besoeker 2021-08-25 10:14|| 2021-08-25 10:14|| Front Page Top

#11 #8 Exactly. cf. Persecution of people with albinism

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-25 10:14|| 2021-08-25 10:14|| Front Page Top

#12 Albinism is difficult to detect. Exterminate all caucasians and you'll likely be rid of it.

Posted by Besoeker 2021-08-25 10:20|| 2021-08-25 10:20|| Front Page Top

#13 I rest my case. People who take a religious zealot approach to health scare me. I avoid them and remain ready to neutralize them if they threaten me directly.

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-25 10:20|| 2021-08-25 10:20|| Front Page Top

#14 ^You mean you want to murder anti-vaxxers?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-25 10:21|| 2021-08-25 10:21|| Front Page Top

#15 Where are all the "get the vaxx" people on fentanyl? Tobacco? Alcohol? Hmmmm?

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-25 10:23|| 2021-08-25 10:23|| Front Page Top

#16 Murder someone who would try to prevent me from getting an effective treatment (I submit that the vaccines are effective)? So far they aren't in a position to do that. If they became so, yeah, I'd be for stopping them.

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-25 10:26|| 2021-08-25 10:26|| Front Page Top

#17 Murder a totalitarian who decided what's right for everyone? I'm all in.

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-25 10:27|| 2021-08-25 10:27|| Front Page Top

#18 Social distancing is not murder. It's simply a moderate increase in personal space. Think Ben Gurion. You were going up the escalator, I was going down. We exchanged a polite wave.

Posted by Besoeker 2021-08-25 10:30|| 2021-08-25 10:30|| Front Page Top

#19 I was at the severely overcrowded bar-room of the Bowers Hotel in Lehigh Valley having a beer during the Bowers Chili Pepper Festival. I was lucky enough to have a seat. Some idiot kept shoving his ass in my face. I stood up, almost a foot taller than the rude idiot and said "If I want a lap dance, I'll go over to Allentown or Reading and get one from a hot chick." His buddies all laughed as he backed away.

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-25 10:36|| 2021-08-25 10:36|| Front Page Top

#20 Moderna wraps full FDA approval request of COVID-19 vaccine

Posted by Skidmark 2021-08-25 11:32|| 2021-08-25 11:32|| Front Page Top

#21 And who were the psychopaths who shot down a building full of rescue dogs so Lit'l Sandy would't be tempted to get a puppy to help deal the with stress of house arrest?

Who are the zealots here?

Posted by swksvolFF 2021-08-25 11:46|| 2021-08-25 11:46|| Front Page Top

#22 ^ You make the salient point sws

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-25 11:54|| 2021-08-25 11:54|| Front Page Top

#23 Even Mainstream Media Is Now Asking Big Questions About Covid Vaccines

I guess what surprises me most about the debate is that it doesn't have to be so contentious. We have vaccines (sort of) for the vulnerable and those who want them. The only tier past that is mandates, and how many here (outside of grom) would support that?

Posted by Angstrom 2021-08-25 12:08|| 2021-08-25 12:08|| Front Page Top

#24 Anything that must be required is suspect.

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-25 12:13|| 2021-08-25 12:13|| Front Page Top

#25 So, if there was something negative, it would become obvious by now.

Not necessarily the truth. It was only 60 days ago that they admitted myocarditis and pericarditis, after months of denials. They still have no answer for the heart swelling found in teens, and just two weeks ago agreed to study it, until then it was called antidotal my the FDA. They have yet to look into the micro clots, proteins migrating to the ovaries, post menopauses bleeding and other issues.

I'm not an Anti vaxer. I just took my shingles shot, first one. But I do believe with it getting into 350 million arms we should have done a better job making sure it is safe.

Posted by 49 Pan 2021-08-25 12:38|| 2021-08-25 12:38|| Front Page Top

#26 Angstron, I listened to a interview with the guy that designed this vaccine. Its his opinion, and I agree, that this virus will never go away. It will morph over and over. There will be no ending it like we did with Polio. With that said he wanted to make it an annual vaccine aligned with the flu shot. Those who desire it and those most at risk should take it. Then leave the rest of us alone to make our own decisions.

Posted by 49 Pan 2021-08-25 12:42|| 2021-08-25 12:42|| Front Page Top

#27 #26, they call polio other names now. Never did they mention those who got polio from Vaccine. Still with us. A fellows Grandson paralyzed from the neck down currently. He said they call it Guillain-Barre ,ANMS or ALS now as I recall. Definitely he said Guillain-Barre. Virus again. Vaccine production was shut down in the mid fifties as I recall because of some problems.

Posted by Dale 2021-08-25 13:00|| 2021-08-25 13:00|| Front Page Top

#28 #25, yes, shingles is occurring at this time. Stress is causing the increased numbers of people suffering with this malady.

Posted by Dale 2021-08-25 13:04|| 2021-08-25 13:04|| Front Page Top

#29 Thought experiment: If an infusion of aborted fetal tissue would give you permanent immunity to COVID, would you want it?

If you're referring to the J&J vaccine, then you probably know the MMR vaccine is also made of fetal cells.

Posted by The Walking Unvaxed 2021-08-25 13:17|| 2021-08-25 13:17|| Front Page Top

#30 Nice article NN2N1, I'd like to see the same conclusion reported in another mainstream media.

Posted by The Walking Unvaxed 2021-08-25 13:22|| 2021-08-25 13:22|| Front Page Top

#31 Just a reminder, thalidomide was cleared by many countries as safe and approved for sale.

Posted by ruprecht 2021-08-25 13:49|| 2021-08-25 13:49|| Front Page Top

#32 The only reason for herd immunity or derived immunity from mandatory vaccinations is elimination of the virus. With the mutation rate, that seems unlikely. We are going to have to live with it. So why is Joe insisting everybody get the shot?

Posted by Bobby 2021-08-25 14:21|| 2021-08-25 14:21|| Front Page Top

#33 this virus will never go away

Totally agree. Which means any measures we put into place now will be permanent.

Posted by Angstrom 2021-08-25 14:46|| 2021-08-25 14:46|| Front Page Top

#34 Hey, wait a minute, *I'm* made of fetal cells. Although most of them have grown up to be responsible adult cells. Most of them. Parts of the brainal region seem to be lagging a bit.

Posted by SteveS 2021-08-25 15:02|| 2021-08-25 15:02|| Front Page Top

#35 Ok I am Pro-Vax Choice and I choose to wait until Oct. 2022

Posted by NN2N1 2021-08-25 16:12|| 2021-08-25 16:12|| Front Page Top

#36 waxxing and waning on vaxxine effectiveness.

It seems to not be working so make it mandatory.

Pull your heads out of that collective ass.

Posted by newc 2021-08-25 16:12|| 2021-08-25 16:12|| Front Page Top

#37 "‘Ultra-Vaxxed’ Israel Sees Huge Surge in Covid as ‘Experts’ Avoid the Only Logical Conclusion".

Posted by Dale 2021-08-25 19:26|| 2021-08-25 19:26|| Front Page Top

#38 This film was made before our pandemic. The father only was from England. The rest of the actors were Russian. Shows a control effort by a few against many.

Posted by Dale 2021-08-25 20:17|| 2021-08-25 20:17|| Front Page Top

#39 In the U.S., 364 million doses have been given so far.

So, if there was something negative, it would become obvious by now.

1. New York governor reveals 12,000 more COVID-19 deaths than previously counted.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2021-08-25 20:47|| 2021-08-25 20:47|| Front Page Top

#40 There was another link but it doesn't seem to be going through.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2021-08-25 20:51|| 2021-08-25 20:51|| Front Page Top

#41 Anyway, here's the free republic thread I found:

2. Trust The Science? CDC Counts People Dying Within 14 Days Of Jab As “Unvaccinated”.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2021-08-25 20:53|| 2021-08-25 20:53|| Front Page Top

#42 TFSM: Due to spammers embedding soooo many links, Fred's filters only allow 1 (or 2?) per comment. Believe me...it was bad

Posted by Frank G 2021-08-25 21:01|| 2021-08-25 21:01|| Front Page Top

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