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2019-10-20 India-Pakistan
God bless liberal fascists
Totes UNBIASED Pak Media
[DAWN] INDIAN liberals have taken on the champions of Hindutva jingoism by documenting their multiple crimes against India’s religious minorities and now the Kashmiri people. Because they are actual witnesses their testimonies bear extraordinary weight. And, yes, the world is listening. Key American presidential candidates ‐ Bernie Sanders
...The only first openly Socialist member of the U.S. Senate. Sanders was Representative-for-Life from Vermont until moving to the Senate for the rest of his life in 2006, assuming the seat vacated by Jim Jeffords. He ran for the 2016 nomination for president, to be cheated out of it by Hillary Clinton, then went back to being a socialist, waiting for 2020 to roll around...
, Elizabeth Being Native American has been part of my story since the day I was born Warren
...Dem Senatrix from Massachussetts, who traces her noble lineage all the way back to Big Chief Spouting Bull. It has been alleged that she speaks with forked tongue but she denies that. She had a DNA test to prove her lineage and it turns out she's colorless...
, and Kámala Harris

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Former Oakland mayor Willie Brown's former mistress, now a senatrix from California and 2020 Dem presidential hopeful, indistinguishable from the others...
‐ have expressed "deep concern" over India’s mistreatment of Kash­miris. The US-based Hindutva brigade is outraged and is calling for their defeat in the 2020 elections.

The Indian liberal is unpopular and will likely get still more unpopular because public opinion is against her/him. Donald Trump
...His ancestors didn't own any slaves...
successfully deactivated the conscience of most Americans but Narendra Modi has done still better with the man on the street. Not too long ago, most Indians agreed that citizenship bestows equality as a constitutional right. But a one-sided media soft-peddles abuses of executive authority and heaps abuse upon those who insist India’s constitutional obligations must be fulfilled.

The Pak liberal has faced a still harder time and for much longer. For an entire decade, 2004-2014, mainstream Pakistain was in a state of collective delusion. Our soldiers, coppers, and ordinary citizens were being slaughtered, schools blown up, female education banned, and polio
...Poliomyelitis is a disease caused by infection with the poliovirus. Between 1840 and the 1950s, polio was a worldwide epidemic. Since the development of polio vaccines the disease has been largely wiped out in the civilized world. However, since the vaccine is known to make Moslem pee-pees shrink and renders females sterile, bookish, and unsubmissive it is not widely used by the turban and automatic weapons set. Currently the disease is only found in Pakistain and Afghanistain...
workers killed. But the mantra ’this is not our war’ was popular. Ten years ago, Imran Khan
...aka The Great Khan, who who convinced himself that playing cricket qualified him to lead a nuclear-armed nation with severe personality disorders...
denounced those advocating action against religious forces of Evil as "liberal scum" in America’s pay. He was hugely applauded.

’Liberal fascist
...anybody you disagree with, damn them...
s’ was then a common term. Popularised by a well-known television anchor who still has his show, it was then picked up by Urdu newspaper columnists. Intrigued by how ’liberal’ could be married to ’fascist’, I had asked many at the time what the term meant. Some said that liberal fascists want to ban religion, hang mullahs, and close down mosques and madressahs. However they couldn’t name a single well-known liberal person saying that. When liberals mourned the victims of suicide kabooms, right-wing columnists denounced them as ’candlelight mafia’.

Pakistain’s liberals tried hard but the country was in a drunken stupor. It kept snoring even after the Pak Taliban
...mindless ferocity in a turban...
’s takeover of Swat
...a valley and an administrative district in the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Province of Pakistain, located 99 mi from Islamabad. It is inhabited mostly by Pashto speakers. The place has gone steadily downhill since the days when Babe Ruth was the Sultan of Swat...
in 2008 and daily executions in Mingora’s Khooni Chowk. The late Lt Gen Hamid Gul
The nutty former head of Pakistain's ISI, now Godfather to Mullah Mohammad Blinky Omar's Talibs and good buddy and consultant to al-Qaeda's high command...
, a regular figure on TV, would flatly state that jacket wallahs were actually Hin­dus and Jews because they hadn’t been circumcised. How he knew he never said during the many spirited TV sessions I had with him. Unlike today (2019), back then some contrary opinions were allowed on the screen.

The mass slaughter of students at the Army Public School in 2014 by raging fanatics ‐ who insisted that students recite the kalma before being shot to death ‐ changed everything. Thereafter it was bang-bang! Operation Zarb-e-Azb
..the Pak offensive against Qaeda in Pakistain and the Pak Taliban in North Wazoo. The name refers to the sword of the Prophet (PTUI!)...
was followed by Operation Raddul Fasaad aimed specifically against religious radicals. Poof! Soon we had peace. No captured Hindu or Jew was ever paraded as a failed suicide bomber. The liberal had been right.

Even as some things changed, others did not. Until someone invented the FATF danda, extra-state actors were a desirable but deniable means of conducting foreign policy. Liberals knew they would not be hea­rd but they shouted anyway saying this won’t help liberate Kashmir
...a disputed territory lying between India and Pakistain. After partition, the Paks grabbed half of it and call it Azad (Free) Kashmir. The remainder they refer to as "Indian Occupied Kashmir". They have fought four wars with India over it, the score currently 4-0 in New Delhi's favor. After 72 years of this nonsense, India cut the Gordian knot in 2019, removing the area's special status, breaking off Ladakh as a separate state, and allowing people from other areas to settle (or in the case of the Pandits, to resettle) there....
, that it delegitimises the struggle of Kashmiris and makes them appear as terrorists.

And now? This liberal stand was vindicated on Sept 19, 2019, when Imran Khan, now prime minister, said exactly what disempowered liberals have pleaded for 20 years. Any bid to "wage jihad in Kashmir", he said, would be an act of extreme enmity towards the Kashmiris adding that: "Anyone, who thinks that he will cross the border to join the Kashmiris is a big enemy of them and Pakistain."

Mr Prime Minister: we welcome you to the liberal camp! We hope you will remain with us even if Mr Hafiz Saeed
...founder of Lashkar-e-Taiba and its false-mustache offshoot Jamaat-ud-Dawa. The United Nations declared the JuD a terrorist organization in 2008 and Hafiz Saeed a terrorist as its leader. Hafiz, JuD and LeT are wholly-owned subsidiaries of the Pak intel apparatus, so that amounted to squat. He is periodically placed under house arrest so it looks like the govt is doing something. Once the heat is off they let him go....
is unhappy. Please stay the course.

Indian liberals have a hard fight ahead as they challenge Hindutva’s discrimination against Moslems, Dalits, and Christians. But at least they have a constitution that in principle guarantees absolute equality to all citizens. Modi has made a mockery out of secularism but until he succeeds in reversing the constitution, India remains officially a secular country. Pakistain, however, has always abjured secularism. Its Constitution explicitly discriminates between Moslems and non-Moslems.

Every applicant for a Pak passport must dec­lare himself to be either a Moslem or a non-Moslem. Taking the second option doesn’t come free because the applicant then has reduced citizenship rights. Constitutionally a Pak Hindu, Christian, or Ahmadi cannot have all the rights enjoyed by a Moslem. Our prime minister can give grand speeches about Islamophobia
...the irrational fear that Moslems will act the way they usually do...
before the UN General Assembly but how seriously is the world going take a leader who welcomes discrimination in his own country and has attended several khatm-e-nabuwat conferences?

I am proud of my liberal friends in Pakistain and India but feel just as friendly to those in Israel, Europe
...the land mass occupying the space between the English Channel and the Urals, also known as Moslem Lebensraum...
, and the United States. In Israel they fight for the right of Paleostinians to their own state; in Europe against religious or racial bias; in the United States for fair treatment of Mexicans and Moslems and much else. Some liberals are financially crooked and bad people. They need to be dealt with as such. But liberalism is an ethical project built upon notions of personal freedoms and fairness to all. We form a large, fractious family where not everyone knows everyone else and we often quarrel. Some are faithfully religious, others indifferent, still others atheistic. Some drink, others eat beef, some think socialism is better than capitalism or vice versa. But what makes us a family is respect for diversity, pluralism, and belief in human equality.

And who are the illiberals? White supremacists, Nazis, Islamophobes and religious fundamentalists of all faiths: Jewish, Hindu, Christian, Moslem ‐ and even ’peaceful’ Buddhists. It’s far easier to be backward-looking, narrow, prejudiced, parochial, tribal, sectarian, and nationalist than to be accommodative, global, and universal.

Some say morality in politics is dead but hopefully it’s just having a longish nap. Monsters like Trump and Modi are strong today but they won’t last forever. So let’s keep our faith in the better world to come.
Posted by trailing wife 2019-10-20 02:49|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [364 views ]  Top

#1 So, these in India who demand that Muslims be allowed to run wild and these in Pakistan who want something done about Islamic extremism are the same?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-10-20 04:44||   2019-10-20 04:44|| Front Page Top

#2 p.s. Congrats on getting the support of Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and Kámala Harris (didn't her mom told her about Muslims?). All that remains to do is getting the support of Hillary (just bring a couple of bottles of wine when you go to visit her).
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-10-20 04:48||   2019-10-20 04:48|| Front Page Top

#3 Everybody seems to have sympathy for running wild Moslems these days. Probably because they're afraid of what will happen to them if they don't.
Posted by jpal 2019-10-20 05:30||   2019-10-20 05:30|| Front Page Top

#4 I'm a parochial, white supremacist Indian.

Posted by Dron66046 2019-10-20 15:01||   2019-10-20 15:01|| Front Page Top

#5 And some of my best friends are well armed fundamentalist Buddhists. Absolute fanatics. Like ;

Posted by Dron66046 2019-10-20 15:05||   2019-10-20 15:05|| Front Page Top

#6 Ever see muslims so docile ? That's because the 'liberals' are ineffectual in carrying out their commie agendas. The hindu ultra-right is a rather fierce weapon in the repertoire of the State.

Posted by Dron66046 2019-10-20 15:11||   2019-10-20 15:11|| Front Page Top

#7 One aspect of the Hindu/Muslim conflict on which I must agree with the Muslims is beef. I cannot fathom why people would want to deny themselves such a valuable source of protein.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2019-10-20 19:58||   2019-10-20 19:58|| Front Page Top

#8 You wouldn't want to eat our cows if you saw how most farms kept the darn things. I can have myself all the beef I want in muslim localities, anyone can. Buffalo's allowed, cheaper and what most muslims eat. It's only banned in hindu majority areas with some religious history, such as I imagine pork would be in jerusalem ? The better hotels and restaurants all still serve imported beef, from Tennessee cow to Wagyu. Of course that's expensive. But the beef from most local cattle ? You'd get more protein out of a roadkill iguana.

Beef is practically staple in the North East, and those cattle are raised well. Which is why a Naga grunt can wrestle two Sikhs to the ground with one hand tied.

There is a conflict, AU. But it's not for diet. The muslims have a habit of demanding everything their way, despite local beliefs or the majority will. If it's not about a certain food product it'll be about family laws. The majority seeks to keep this minority in check, un-empowered and preferably without much purchasing power. Since beef is so important to muslims, the State which doesn't really care about cows
saw it as a way to shut down half the muslim owned unregulated meat and leather industry, and put restrictive burdens on the trade. They roused the hindu rabble to target butchers and sellers of beef using the 'cow is our mother' doctrine through fringe frothers of the hindu kind.

Of course some states have outright banned it, the local administrations falling over each other trying to please what they think is a fanatic hindu PM.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-10-20 20:45||   2019-10-20 20:45|| Front Page Top

#9 India is certainly a fascinating place.
Posted by SteveS 2019-10-20 21:13||   2019-10-20 21:13|| Front Page Top

#10 ☺ More like a nuthouse, where if you want to stay on top you have to be the best nutter around. Gawd knows how long it'll stay this way.

But the humblest, wisest and most God loving christian communities are in India. It's the spiritual echoing the logos, something to be seen. Many of them poor, but rich in spirit.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-10-20 21:36||   2019-10-20 21:36|| Front Page Top

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