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2007-11-20 Home Front: Politix

Polls being conducted by GOP candidates appear to show a growing chance that underfunded hopeful Mike Huckabee could win the Iowa caucus, a victory that would upset the race and help Rudy Giuliani, according to Republican political advisers.

Heard him on Fox yesterday. If anybody else was listening, Huckabee's toast.

"It's not impossible that Huckabee could take the win from Mitt Romney in Iowa and make this thing a race," said one GOP adviser. The Giuliani campaign has some polling data that bear out Huckabee's rise and also show Sen. John McCain moving up as the race tightens.

Giuliani and Romney advisers, however, express little concern with Huckabee since he has mostly focused on New Hampshire and Iowa while they have sprawling organizations in the states that follow those two with primary elections and caucuses. Other GOP polling, however, shows Fred Thompson stalled or dropping, a situation that has some advisers to Romney and Giuliani fretting because each of those candidates had hoped he would rob primary and caucus votes from the other. "Thompson is dropping too fast for their good," said the adviser.

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Fred Thompson
John McCain
Mike Huckabee
Mitt Romney
Rudy Giuliani

Posted by Fred 2007-11-20 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11136 views ] Top

#1 so, Im wondering who Fred and Steve and seafor etc favor in the GOP race.

I think its no secret that anyone who has any ounce of hawkishness on the Dem side is for Hilary over Obama or Edwards (Biden might be a possibility, if he wasnt such a dark horse, and lately saying foolish things about Iran)

To someone like me McCain is the obvious GOP choice, cause of his stalwartness on every international issue from Israel to Iraq to Iran to NKor to Russia, his personal background etc. But I understand some of y'all dont forgive McCain-Finegold, and consider him a devious traitor. Whatever. But how do you pick among Rudy, Thomson, and Romney?

Posted by Liberalhawk 2007-11-20 09:48|| 2007-11-20 09:48|| Front Page Top

#2 McCain-Finegold is not the problem. McCain-Kennedy is the problem.

Giuliani or Thompson would be great though in a perfect world it would be President Tancredo. I do not trust Romney.

Posted by Excalibur 2007-11-20 10:05|| 2007-11-20 10:05|| Front Page Top

#3 Huckabee? Great on pro-life, but other than that people need to wake the hell up. He is a nanny stater, and his record shows it. He is a big government tax & spender, basically a pro-life version of Dem Bill Richardson.

Ron Paul is more suited to be "L Ron Paul: and lead a cult like Scientology than he is to lead a modern nation in the world today. He associates with racists and anti-Semites, and endorses and supports crackpot conspiracists, and endorsed tinfoil beanie paranoids. Not to mention he is completely ideologically blind to the threats facing us, and somehow is stupid enough to think that isolationism is possible, much less proper.

Romney is a fake. He has flip flopped and triangulated like a Clinton. He is trying to buy the nomination, and is reflective of the "say anything do anything" country-club set in DC that screws us over once they get in office. I have encountered a lot of sleazy people pushing him, and I trust Romney as far as I could kick him. He epitomizes the rot that has happened at the core of the Republican Party as it drifts away from principles and patriotism, and toward raw power (like the Dems). He deserves the name Multiple Choice Mitt, and he comes across like a oily used Porsche salesman. I cannot bring myself to EVER vote for this man (I'd vote 3rd party before voting for him).

Guiliani? Putz. He is already talking "Virtual" fence. That's a non starter and indicates he is soft on border enforcement. His record shows he is in the pocket of the illegal alien amnesty crowd like Bush. I also do not trust him on judges - his record is piss poor. And guns and pro-life? Guiliani is flat out WRONG on those, and may as well be Hillary when it comes to those issues, his stands are very similar in spite of his attempts to wiggle away from his record. Guiliani only gets my vote if there is no other choice.

So that leaves me Thompson and McCain.

McCain has too long of a record that is too easily exploited against him, and has a record of having a tempter that can be exploited for dirt on him. He's just not the guy.

As many of you know I was touting Thompson here in March. And for a while it seemed that Fred was the guy. He has all the right stands, his Federalist approach is exactly what we need. He is strong on 2nd amendment rights, strict judges, border AND internal enforcement against illegal aliens, strong on winning the war on Islamic Fascism, strong on smaller but more efficient government, and strong on individual liberty. What's not to like? BUT...

He isn't campaigning worth a crap - he is the right guy philosophically, but nobody is hearing about it, and those grass roots organizers like me have been shunted aside and ignored. I had 300+ in Colorado ready to do the footwork. But we have gotten ZERO response form the campaign, and the numbers have withered away do less than 2 dozen, because there is simply NOTHING TO DO. The campaign never called us, never emailed us never acknowledged that we existed.

The new people that came in August to run the sow threw away all the internet support, threw away and neglected the grass roots except to send mailers to us begging for money, threw away his Youtube spots, threw away the podcasts, and threw away all the momentum we generated.

So now, unless someone in the Thompson campaign wakes the hell up, Fred is done.

And that leave me with precisely NOBODY I want to vote FOR on the Republican side. I will not be donating money, I will not be volunteering to do campaign work. I will only ultimately pull the lever AGAINST the Dems, because the porkers and powerbrokers in the Republican Party have failed to leave the Country Club and come back for us Sam's Club Republicans.

Posted by OldSpook 2007-11-20 13:54|| 2007-11-20 13:54|| Front Page Top

#4 OS I fear that Thompson blew it with the super seckret, stealth approach to the announcement. Too clever by 3/4.

Posted by Thomas Woof 2007-11-20 18:51|| 2007-11-20 18:51|| Front Page Top

#5 with Romney and Rudy, we need to pin them down with precise, non-Clintonian-parsable positions. That's not that hard to do - Ima Fred or Hunter guy, but they would make excellent checks as VP or Sec Def on both the front-runners, if they can't get the POTUS slot

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-11-20 21:13|| 2007-11-20 21:13|| Front Page Top

#6 Given the possibles, the worst trunk is better than the best donk, though McCain makes it a contest. So no matter whom the trunks nominate, I'll vote for him. The only question is how badly I'll bruise my nose.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-11-20 21:35|| 2007-11-20 21:35|| Front Page Top

#7 To someone like me McCain is the obvious GOP choice, cause of his stalwartness on every international issue from Israel to Iraq to Iran to NKor to Russia, his personal background etc.

McCain? Um.... no.

I don't need another Nixon, thankyouverymuch.

Posted by Pappy 2007-11-20 21:54|| 2007-11-20 21:54|| Front Page Top

#8 LH MCCcain chucked his credentials with the amnesty for illegals gambit. This stance like wise puts Guilliani on unstable for me. But I'll take him at his word on 'constructionist' judges and he brings the NE into play for the electoral college. If he can carry NY an PN it's for Billary

Posted by Beavis 2007-11-20 22:33|| 2007-11-20 22:33|| Front Page Top

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