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2024-08-22 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Ukrainian perspective: Operation in Kursk region
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Posted by badanov 2024-08-22 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11134 views ]  Top

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Posted by DarthVader 2024-08-22 08:57||   2024-08-22 08:57|| Front Page Top

#2 If I was the Ukes, I would nail every highway bridge, railroad trestle, and railway switch. Also the power infrastructure for the russ electric trains.
Nice going away present.
Posted by ed in texas 2024-08-22 15:12||   2024-08-22 15:12|| Front Page Top

#3 ^And then the Russians will take off silk gloves and bomb Ukraine to stone age.
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-08-22 15:18||   2024-08-22 15:18|| Front Page Top

#4 ^And they have already tried. Simple thing is, they can't. They blew their wad already and only have nukes left and lied about every redline they had for their use. Even if Russia gets a win beneficial to them in this war, they are finished.
Posted by DarthVader 2024-08-22 15:49||   2024-08-22 15:49|| Front Page Top

#5 ^
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-08-22 16:04||   2024-08-22 16:04|| Front Page Top

#6 ^Denial ain't just a river in Egypt our Putin-Loving friends? Wasn't this a two week Special Military Operation a couple years ago? Don't you "talk to people"?
Posted by Frank G 2024-08-22 17:32||   2024-08-22 17:32|| Front Page Top

#7 the best either side can get at this time is a Pyrrhic victory

both sides have taken losses that any western country would consider to be a catastrophe
Posted by Lord Garth  2024-08-22 17:54||   2024-08-22 17:54|| Front Page Top

#8 Seems like a reminder that there is a whole lot more Russian border to defend not too mention Kalingrad…
Posted by Alpha2c 2024-08-22 20:36||   2024-08-22 20:36|| Front Page Top

#9  the best either side can get at this time is a Pyrrhic victory

Pyrrhic victory or Pyrrhic defeat. In anything beyond the short term, what’s the difference?

President Putin’s invitation to the unhappy citizens of Christendom to make their home in Russia is an attempt to replace a population that’s been falling since the 1990s as well as create a groundswell of goodwill behind NATO lines.
Posted by trailing wife 2024-08-22 21:04||   2024-08-22 21:04|| Front Page Top

#10 Well Grom has been slurping down what the Kremlin has been spurting out for a while.

The simple fact of the matter is if the war keeps going this way with a small stream of western support for Ukraine, Russia will win (Barring political issues at home). It is the way Russia has fought for centuries. Throw more bodies at the problem than the enemy has.

The long term survival of Russia is doomed no matter what they do. Demographics is a bitch and there are not enough Russians to maintain a Russian ethnic majority in 2100 and this war is accelerating the issue. (Ukraine is also doomed in the long run unless they win and have a 50 year baby boom).

The main issue for the immediate war is some kool-aid drinkers think Russia has this vast reserve that they are just holding back and will unleash if made mad. They don't. The tank storages are out of tanks that can be quickly activated, they can't build them faster than they are destroyed so it falls to a slow attrition grind. Russia has nothing left to throw into Kursk. The latest unit was a battalion of engineers and mechanics from their rocket launching base. They aren't gonna stop armor. Ukraine is also using the last of their main reserves for this so if Russia does rip a bigger whole in the Donbass Ukraine is screwed.

Conscripts here are from the main Russian population centers and that can put some major pressure on the Kremlin as the main supporters start turning as their sons are made POWs. Conscripting from there only makes the political situation worse. Seems they are happy to let Ukraine expend themselves capturing more territory there while pushing in the south. The calculation being there isn't enough political pressure building to break things before the Ukrainian lines are broken. Both strategies are high risk-high reward.
Posted by DarthVader 2024-08-22 21:57||   2024-08-22 21:57|| Front Page Top

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Posted by DarthVader 2024-08-22 21:59||   2024-08-22 21:59|| Front Page Top

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Posted by DarthVader 2024-08-22 22:00||   2024-08-22 22:00|| Front Page Top

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Posted by DarthVader 2024-08-22 22:00||   2024-08-22 22:00|| Front Page Top

#14 Tail of Dove Bear, or, "Olly olly in come free!"

"True Russians, indifferent to pain
And demography," Russians explain,
"Have grown rather few...
Which is why we'll need you,
Brother Russians, to green our Ukraine."

Reconstruction and reparations! Win-win-win.
Posted by Pancho Poodle8452 2024-08-22 23:53||   2024-08-22 23:53|| Front Page Top

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