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2024-05-29 -Land of the Free

Guess The Charging Station Fraud Really Isn't Important in the Long Run:Study: The Amount of Copper Needed for EVs Is ‘Impossible for Mining Companies to Produce’

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Posted by NoMoreBS 2024-05-29 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11134 views ] Top
File under: Tin Hat Dictators, Presidents for Life, & Kleptocrats

#1 White House on Slow EV Charger Pace: Have to Do More Work to Ensure We Can Spend on Charging Stations

Posted by Skidmark 2024-05-29 04:20|| 2024-05-29 04:20|| Front Page Top

#2 Keep our Tweaker Theft Economy replenished

Posted by Frank G 2024-05-29 06:51|| 2024-05-29 06:51|| Front Page Top

#3 So the penny will be the next 10 or 20 dollar bill awesome and that change shortage was a farce to get all the idiots to turn in their loose change awesome!

Posted by Jack+Creanter7508 2024-05-29 07:44|| 2024-05-29 07:44|| Front Page Top

#4 I'm guessing the delay was caused by the administration's desire not to use anything a Tesla could hook up to.

Posted by Cleared Cookies Lost Nic 2024-05-29 07:51|| 2024-05-29 07:51|| Front Page Top

#5 (Dem logic): buy the copper from the recycled metals market. Sometimes its even available in handy ‘replacement charger station cord’ lengths……

Posted by USN, Ret. 2024-05-29 08:50|| 2024-05-29 08:50|| Front Page Top

#6 Um... wasn't this known (and half of Rantburg's commenters saying the same thing) years and years ago?

Posted by Raj 2024-05-29 09:18|| 2024-05-29 09:18|| Front Page Top

#7 IIRC Raj, you are correct. I do remember the same things being said about Lithium too.

Posted by alanc 2024-05-29 09:40|| 2024-05-29 09:40|| Front Page Top

#8 ^ Correct. But that's leftism in a nut shell (pun intended) - never let reality constrain your pie-in-the-sky grifting schemes.

And shout down anyone who points the real problems out.

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-05-29 09:47|| 2024-05-29 09:47|| Front Page Top

#9 Lots of what we used to call "predictive analysis" (PA) conducted here. I have often wondered if the Burg is actually an UNCLAS PA site in disguise.

Fred: Comments ?

Posted by Besoeker 2024-05-29 10:29|| 2024-05-29 10:29|| Front Page Top

#10 The same issue holds for “renewable” generation. Each windmill requires a lot of copper, not only in the device itself, but primarily in the conductor that connects the windmill with the grid. Their total electrification dream is a fantasy.

Posted by Remoteman 2024-05-29 11:30|| 2024-05-29 11:30|| Front Page Top

#11 It a dream with a lot of missing money.

Posted by Super Hose 2024-05-29 11:38|| 2024-05-29 11:38|| Front Page Top

#12 That moron Rogan asked Musk if there will ever be an EV that self charges with on board solar panels and Musk calmly said no, the sun delivers X watts per square meter and photovoltaic cells top out at some pathetic conversion percentage of that, so it is physically impossible.

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-05-29 11:48|| 2024-05-29 11:48|| Front Page Top

#13 Strap This Wind Turbine To Your Electric Car To Stay Juiced

Posted by Skidmark 2024-05-29 13:27|| 2024-05-29 13:27|| Front Page Top

#14 The aging power grid is the bigger issue. Other than some localized upgrades, the vast majority of our nations electrical distribution and generating system is woefully undersized. There are slim alternative sources/routing in case of damage. In light of this, we're unable to accommodate the increased power demands of the numbers of chargers that will be required for for the pipe dream of so many EV's. For the foreseeable future, the proposed added number of solar ~~bird burners~~farms or big spinning fans will be enough.

Posted by Mullah Richard 2024-05-29 15:00|| 2024-05-29 15:00|| Front Page Top

#15 So the penny will be the next 10 or 20 dollar bill
Pennies are made of zinc with a very thin coating od copper.

Posted by Deacon+Blues 2024-05-29 15:03|| 2024-05-29 15:03|| Front Page Top

#16 Once again, we see the divide between People of Words and People of Things.

In the Land of Words, you can change the world by making marks on paper and nothing is connected to anything else. Raise the minimum wage to $25/hour without affecting the rest of the economy. Declare that everyone will drive EVs by 2030. No need to worry about necessary infrastructure.

The People of Things know that every complex system is a network. An electrician knows that to get power at a wall outlet, you need a connection to the breaker panel. The breaker panel needs a connection to the power pole. The wires on the power pole lead to substation and on to the power plant. Take away any of those and there is no power at the wall outlet, no matter what the marks on paper say.

To build an EV charging station, you need wires to a power source. The power source needs fuel. Copper must be mined to make the wires. You need transmission lines, easements, and an excess of electricity over what is produced now. Let's not forget the environment impact statements and inevitable lawsuits.

If these buffoons were serious about electrification, they would be building new power plants left and right, and beefing up the electric grid. The fact that none of this is being done says it will never happen.

Every complex system is a network and arithmetic wins in the end.

Posted by SteveS 2024-05-29 20:54|| 2024-05-29 20:54|| Front Page Top

#17 #9 Lots of what we used to call "predictive analysis" (PA) conducted here. I have often wondered if the Burg is actually an UNCLAS PA site in disguise.

Good question! In addition to WoT news, snark, and poetry, there is a lot of fascinating insight here at the 'Burg from people whose backgrounds I shall merely describe as "interesting". It makes for a nice antidote to mainstream media pablum.

Posted by SteveS 2024-05-29 21:14|| 2024-05-29 21:14|| Front Page Top

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