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2023-06-15 China-Japan-Koreas

US Marines to Integrate Tech, Amphibious Power

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Posted by Bobby 2023-06-15 08:05|| || Front Page|| [11125 views ] Top
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#1 That's why they gave up their tanks?

Posted by Skidmark 2023-06-15 09:06|| 2023-06-15 09:06|| Front Page Top

#2 "We need to go back to our naval roots and be naval..." Oh, sure. In the emerging age of robotics and missile technology let's return to our naval roots.

Posted by Slavising Unineting5672 2023-06-15 09:27|| 2023-06-15 09:27|| Front Page Top

#3 naval-gazing

from The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.

noun Excessive introspection, self-absorption, or concentration on a single issue.

from Wiktionary, Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License.

noun derogatory Excessive focus on oneself; introspection.

from WordNet 3.0 Copyright 2006 by Princeton University. All rights reserved.

noun literally, the contemplation of one's navel, which is an idiom usually meaning complacent self-absorption

Posted by Skidmark 2023-06-15 09:39|| 2023-06-15 09:39|| Front Page Top

#4 The Marine Corps is going to great lengths to make sure that they're never forced to deploy as an alternate Army unit again.

Posted by ed in texas 2023-06-15 10:40|| 2023-06-15 10:40|| Front Page Top

#5 But what about pronouns?

Posted by AlanC 2023-06-15 10:55|| 2023-06-15 10:55|| Front Page Top

#6 The US Marine Corps doesn't want to be carved up like a thanksgiving turkey by the Pentagon bureaucrats. The Iron Law of (Pentagon) Budgets is that the Army, the Navy and the Air Force each gets a third of the pie -- this makes life quieter for the REMFs because they don't have to fight for each program as hard. The USMC as a "combined arm force" had toys the other services claimed control of: the USAF's airplanes and the Army's tanks. The Navy has historically been willing to fight for USMC airplanes, but the others...

Posted by magpie 2023-06-15 11:32|| 2023-06-15 11:32|| Front Page Top

#7 Berger needs to re-read the Wake Island experience on what happens to small, cut-off defensive units once isolated and assaulted. In trying to be meore "naval" he is asking for smaller, amphib transport vessels for the China-centric EABO concept described below.

"The Navy’s Medium Landing Ship (LSM) program, previously called the Light Amphibious Warship (LAW) program, envisions procuring a class of 18 to 35 new amphibious ships to support the Marine Corps, particularly in implementing a new Marine Corps operational concept called Expeditionary Advanced Base Operations (EABO)"...

"The EABO concept was developed with an eye toward potential conflict scenarios with China in the Western Pacific. Under the concept, the Marine Corps envisions, among other things, having reinforced-platoon-sized Marine Corps units maneuver around the theater, moving from island to island, to fire anti-ship cruise missiles (ASCMs) and perform other missions so as to contribute, alongside Navy and other U.S. military forces, to U.S. operations to counter and deny sea control to Chinese forces. The LSMs would be instrumental to these operations, with LSMs embarking, transporting, landing, and subsequently reembarking these small Marine Corps units."

Report to Congress on Navy Medium Landing Ship

Posted by NoMoreBS 2023-06-15 11:42|| 2023-06-15 11:42|| Front Page Top

#8 I don’t think the quantity of Chinese ships is any more decisive than a Vietnam era body count was. Iran may also have more ships than we do. Iranian naval ships would mostly be Boghammard and dhows. It fits their strategy, but their navy is demonstrably not a match for ours.
We would love a Chinese naval strategy if it called for them to duke it out with us ship to ship. In reality, their shore to ship missiles and drones would be a more significant threat. I don’t think their sub contingent will be decisive. If there was a war, I expect that we would lose some ships, but for them to lose most of their ships. It would not be Praying Mantis, nor would it be Midway. If the Chinese were to try an amphibious take over of Taiwan, I would expect that few troops would land alive unless Taiwan and the US succumbed to the most significant threat, Chinese infiltration of our governments and military.
As for the Marine Corp tanks, they were somewhat useful in both Iraq wars. I am not sure where the planners see the Marines being used in the future. Hopefully, Milley’s plan to invade Iran was retired with him. If he has not retired yet, let’s expedite that paperwork.

Posted by Super Hose 2023-06-15 12:27|| 2023-06-15 12:27|| Front Page Top

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