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2022-12-15 -Great Cultural Revolution

Oregon governor commutes all 17 of state's death sentences

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Posted by Skidmark 2022-12-15 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11135 views ] Top

#1 The state abandons justice. Do no seek justice here.

Posted by Procopius2k 2022-12-15 07:03|| 2022-12-15 07:03|| Front Page Top

#2 The same types who always argue "there is no such thing as a slippery slope" now turn their attention from abolishing the death penalty to abolishing life with no parole sentences as being "inhumane." Meanwhile, future killers are being nurtured in their ways early in their trajectories with "no cash bail" and revolving door arraignments.

Full disclosure: I am anti death penalty. In principle, I certainly recognize people who deserve it. In practice, the system we have is so busted it can't possibly administer it in a just manner. I say that as a crime reporter who covered murder cases and watched senile judges, incompetent defense attorneys, lying prosecutors, cops and "experts," and brain dead jurors first hand.

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-12-15 07:12|| 2022-12-15 07:12|| Front Page Top

#3 That is why in certain inner cities, no one cooperates with the 'authorities'. One side does have a death penalty. It gets resolved by vendetta.

Posted by Procopius2k 2022-12-15 07:53|| 2022-12-15 07:53|| Front Page Top

#4 /\ Lawless urban moons orbiting a lawless giant planet aka Washington D.C.

Posted by Besoeker 2022-12-15 07:56|| 2022-12-15 07:56|| Front Page Top

#5 Re #2: So if no state-sponsored death penalty, how do you feel about Heinlein's "Balancing" approach?

Posted by Mercutio 2022-12-15 09:03|| 2022-12-15 09:03|| Front Page Top

#6 She also added around $1.4 Million per year to the state's spending.

Rough annual cost to keep a prisoner on death row - $80K

Posted by Mullah Richard 2022-12-15 09:04|| 2022-12-15 09:04|| Front Page Top

#7 # 5, Heinlein is a great read and he touches a lot of thought-provoking topics. Do I want to live in a society or world where he's the top philosopher?

No.

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-12-15 09:17|| 2022-12-15 09:17|| Front Page Top

#8 Granted - he's not real long on the whole "forgiveness" thing...

Posted by Mercutio 2022-12-15 10:04|| 2022-12-15 10:04|| Front Page Top

#9 more of a FAFO type

Posted by Mercutio 2022-12-15 10:04|| 2022-12-15 10:04|| Front Page Top

#10 Only transgender inmate on death row begs for mercy: Missouri woman, 49, who raped and murdered victim in 2003, asks to not be killed because of mental health issues

Posted by Skidmark 2022-12-15 10:41|| 2022-12-15 10:41|| Front Page Top

#11 To me, Heinlein and Asimov came across as reactions to the decay of classical philosophy and morality among movers and decision makers.

If we are feeling Starship Troopers or Foundation, its because those given ward of health care lie about 200 years of medical advancement while the workers learn deathbed dances, and it is tolerated, celebrated, as moral apex.

Posted by swksvolFF 2022-12-15 10:54|| 2022-12-15 10:54|| Front Page Top

#12 So, on the one side, you have VDH whining about how society is collapsing, but offering no solutions. On the other side, you have a particular school of sci-fi writers snarling about how society is collapsing and offering up an avalanche of untenable solutions.

Seems the answers, whatever they might be, are to be found elswhere.

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-12-15 11:10|| 2022-12-15 11:10|| Front Page Top

#13 Not sure if untenable is the right word there.

Heinlein's Luna comes across as heavily influenced by Scots-Irish and then therefore colonial Appalachian culture and the desire of an oppressed people fighting for independence has much more historical tenure than bitch online until someone finds me an answer culture.

Posted by swksvolFF 2022-12-15 12:24|| 2022-12-15 12:24|| Front Page Top

#14 #2, that took guts, M. I, like many others, might have been more comfortable if they had done it to Charlie Manson but I too believe the system is error prone and likely to execute innocent people.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-12-15 12:36|| 2022-12-15 12:36|| Front Page Top

#15 One thing I've learned from years of observation is that the system is not perfect.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-12-15 12:46|| 2022-12-15 12:46|| Front Page Top

#16 The same people who a year and a half ago wished harm or death on those not getting the jab, and encourage the hard drug use, so I don't think the preservation of justice or saving life for the sake of saving life is the real motivation here. If it were a few with real questions about evidence but its a full sweep the table damn the law and precedence without even checking voter preference.

I'll go 100% first half of #2.

Posted by swksvolFF 2022-12-15 18:28|| 2022-12-15 18:28|| Front Page Top

#17 I'm a San Diego born and raised, but I'm an honorary Texan in that : "Some people need killing"

Posted by Frank G 2022-12-15 19:48|| 2022-12-15 19:48|| Front Page Top

#18 To be honest, if you don't want to have a state mandated death penalty for vile scum who are dangers to society, you will instead wind up with a societal based one that is utterly without mercy.

Posted by Silentbrick 2022-12-15 23:34|| 2022-12-15 23:34|| Front Page Top

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