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2022-06-04 -Great Cultural Revolution
The Real Reason Why Mass Shooters Kill
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Posted by Skidmark 2022-06-04 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11 views ]  Top

#1 This was obvious in the late 60's and early 70's. The government replacing fathers/religion would cause massive problems in society.
Posted by The Walking Unvaxed 2022-06-04 02:27||   2022-06-04 02:27|| Front Page Top

#2 The experiment of multi-generational fatherless families in the inner city never gave the 'experts' a heads up. They just construct a rationalized Ptolemaic social universe to get around reality. As long as they avoid the truth, there will be no 'solution'.
Posted by Procopius2k 2022-06-04 07:56||   2022-06-04 07:56|| Front Page Top

#3 

How about using the FBI’s Behavioral Analysis Unit (BAU) published "Key Considerations of the Active Shooter" as a starting point?

There is no one demographic profile of an active shooter.

Many active shooters display observable pre-attack behaviors, which, if recognized, can lead to the disruption of the planned attack.

The pathway to targeted violence typically involves an unresolved real or perceived grievance and an ideation of a violent resolution that eventually moves from thought to research, planning, and preparation.

A thorough threat assessment typically necessitates a holistic review of an individual of concern, including historical, clinical, and contextual factors.

Human bystanders generally represent the greatest opportunity for the detection and recognition of an active shooter prior to his or her attack.

Concerning active shooters, a person who makes a threat is rarely the same as the person who poses a threat.

Successful threat management of a person of concern often involves long-term care taking and coordination between law enforcement, mental health care, and social services.

Exclusionary interventions (e.g., expulsion, termination) do not necessarily represent the end of threat-management efforts.

While not every active shooter can be identified and thwarted prior to attacking, many potential active shooters who appear to be on a trajectory toward violence can be stopped.

Posted by NN2N1 2022-06-04 07:57||   2022-06-04 07:57|| Front Page Top

#4 ^ Most people aren't even watching where they are going let alone practicing situational awareness.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-06-04 08:11||   2022-06-04 08:11|| Front Page Top

#5 This may get me sent to Rantburg pergatory but in the four largest shootings at schools: Columbine, Parkland, Sandy Point, and now Uvalde the police mobilized and stood outside for long periods of time.
I don’t understand
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom  2022-06-04 09:32||   2022-06-04 09:32|| Front Page Top

#6 
#4^ M. Murcek

I agree, too many walk around with a Smartphone in their Social Media realm, not noticing their surroundings world.

Based on my HRT and profile of hostile threat training. My own observations, likely 85+ out of a 100 would not notice any displayed threatening issues.

Those that did notice would not take the time. Instead, worry about lawsuits and Social Media turning on them using ___ phobia smearings, for report an "IT's" hostile mental illness signs.

What is usually left are those that would whip out a cell phone camera to be the "on the scene" chronicler for their Facebook bud's. Instead, providing basic 1st aid or help.

This latest election year, school shooter displayed how many of the warning signs and how many reported "IT"?

How many of the give or take, 100 present at the scene acted to stop "IT" instead of watch it?

I believe it was just 1 in 100+ that acted, while usual mass majority of others stood around.
Posted by NN2N1 2022-06-04 10:19||   2022-06-04 10:19|| Front Page Top

#7 #3 NN, I have enjoyed your posts and the perspective you bring to this site, but this is utter nonsense. Perhaps applicable in another manifestly past time but not now.

The swine from Parkland wasn't any ambiguous psychological puzzle to solve, rather he spent years...YEARS telling everybody he ever met and people he already knew his primary ambition was to be a school shooter.

Thus after people saw and heard something they said something in accordance with the great dictum. To what end? Absolutely nothing. They couldn't keep tabs on him since that would be spying. AS IF the alphabet agencies couldn't tell you every and any detail about your life with about 20 minutes notice.

How about that charmer from Virginia Tech. A troubled lad, oh yes very troubled. Let's see now based on his troubled behavior, people changed majors, changed dorms, moved off campus, and left the school altogether. For the big deal of the day when confronted with the loss of tenure if she would not have him in her class, the nice English teacher basically said cram your tenure. Quite the record for somebody who NEVER said an audible word his entire time there.

Again, people sure saw something and everybody not only said something they did so repeatedly, and the result was what again? If only he had used the wrong pronoun, then they would have had him sure.

This is a concept of community policing that arises out of compassion as much as concern is sadly from 'Bedford Falls'. There has to be somebody on the other end of the line who will take substantive action. All the studies and white papers in the world won't do what 5 minutes of common sense could have accomplished in virtually every instance.
Posted by Cesare 2022-06-04 10:52||   2022-06-04 10:52|| Front Page Top

#8 Sock Puppet of Doom,

I would guess there are two reasons (1) The best and brightest don't seek duty at the schools so the ones onsite lean towards cowards or lazy (2) the ones that arrive later are terrified to the point of paralysis of killing children in the crossfire or being blamed for instigating carnage. I don't think this second group are as concerned with their own safety so much as fear of making it worse, so they plan to talk them down if possible.
Posted by ruprecht 2022-06-04 11:43||   2022-06-04 11:43|| Front Page Top

#9 Rup
Good point when you consider the media storm over the girl killed by a stray police bullet during a shootout with a criminal
To me Columbine was the most infuriating with swat teams doing their centipede dancing a 100 yards from the school while shots could be heard inside the school
I know the media would hang the police if there were hostages killed in the crossfire but the police have to understand the media is their enemy and no brave deed goes unpunished
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom  2022-06-04 12:50||   2022-06-04 12:50|| Front Page Top

#10 I don't think this second group are as concerned with their own safety so much as fear of making it worse.

Not the way Red Adair worked.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-06-04 13:35||   2022-06-04 13:35|| Front Page Top

#11  the ones that arrive later

There's a reason they're late.
Posted by Skidmark 2022-06-04 14:43||   2022-06-04 14:43|| Front Page Top

#12 Once, a girl at a bar asked me and a friend to help her get into her car after she locked the keys in it. We got a coat hanger, made a slim jim and went to it. Some drunk asshole came out and pushed us aside, said "I'll get this." My friend and I shrugged and left him to it. 10 minutes later, the girl came in and said "I need you guys. He couldn't get in my car. Oh, and, get another coat hanger."

Such is the relationship between doers and officiators.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-06-04 14:47||   2022-06-04 14:47|| Front Page Top

#13 #7 CESARE, Thanks for added view points.
Agreed the FBI nor any general shooter profile is ever 100%. Its the human element that adds to the equation. But the failure to act by others is a major contributing factor for any shooters success.
Posted by NN2N1 2022-06-04 20:16||   2022-06-04 20:16|| Front Page Top

#14 I would be interested to know how many of these young murders have been on behavior meds and for how many years.
Posted by Airandee 2022-06-04 22:29||   2022-06-04 22:29|| Front Page Top

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