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2022-06-03 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

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Posted by badanov 2022-06-03 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11130 views ] Top

#1 Ah, the New York Times shifts its story line to catch up to the shift that occurred at least a month ago in Europe. Today the British Ministry of Defence and their faithful scribes at the New York Times admit what their German, Austrian and French counterparts have been saying: "Russia is achieving tactical success in the Donbas region in Ukraine’s east and is likely to take full control of Luhansk Province in the next two weeks, according to the British Defense Ministry."

But why describe it as tactical instead of as strategic? President Biden announced this week that his strategic goal for the US and its client is not victory but merely "a better negotiating position." The opposite is happening. This is an enormous strategic loss for the US and its client.

Posted by Jean-Paul 2022-06-03 07:50|| 2022-06-03 07:50|| Front Page Top

#2 Yes, it's official: the story line now in the Americans' official newspaper is that Ukraine is losing, theyre untrained troops are terrified and getting slaughtered, they're in "disarray," the war for them is "a living hell" and Donbas will fall "within two weeks."

First we saw Pres. Biden move the goalposts in his New York Times opinion piece from "victory" to salvaging whatever they can at the negotiating table. Today the New York Times' top correspondent on the war, Andrew E. Kramer, sends a long dispatch from Kramatorsk which prepares his readers for the upcoming capitulation of Ukraine.

The story line is almost the exact opposite of what the American and British press have been telling their readers for three months: the Ukrainians are retreating. They are demoralized and terrified and running out of ammunition. The Ukrainians lied to the untrained volunteers who were told they'd defend their hometowns and are instead sending them into the charnel house to be slaughtered in the Donbas -- creating "a stream of Ukrainian dead and wounded from the battlefields."

"KRAMATORSK, Ukraine — It all starts with a whistle, said Vladislav Goncharenko, a Ukrainian army sergeant, describing the relentless Russian shelling.

“You lie in a trench,” he said, waiting in an ambulance packed with other wounded soldiers. “There are very loud explosions. You want to get deeper into the ground. And you have shrapnel whistling above you, like flies.” Soldiers, he said, “just want it to stop.”

Ukraine is struggling. Ukraine’s army has suffered heavy losses, shown signs of disarray and, step by step, fallen back from some long-held areas in Donbas, the eastern region that is now the war’s epicenter.

Posted by Jean-Paul 2022-06-03 08:05|| 2022-06-03 08:05|| Front Page Top

#3 More from Andrew Kramer -- he dares to hint, for the first time, at what has been known for weeks: at least a dozen Ukrainian units are mutinying, protesting the slaughter and demanding to be released from combat.

Kramer even dares to quote a Ukraine's top national security adviser who criticizes the absurd false narrative that his own president, along with the New York Times and the entire American and British press, has been pushing since April!

"To fill gaps in the frontline, Ukraine has resorted to deploying minimally trained volunteers of the Territorial Defense Force, which mobilized quickly as the war started. Hints of morale lapses have surfaced. One unit recorded a video protesting dire conditions. In interviews, soldiers said their artillery guns sometimes go quiet for lack of ammunition.

“ 'Those people who said that the war would end very soon, that we have already won, that we will celebrate in April, said a dangerous thing,' Ukraine’s national security adviser, Oleksiy Danilov, told Ukrainian media this week.

Posted by Jean-Paul 2022-06-03 08:13|| 2022-06-03 08:13|| Front Page Top

#4 Up early, Comrade?

Posted by Frank G 2022-06-03 08:27|| 2022-06-03 08:27|| Front Page Top

#5 Time is running out for Russia. It's been running out, well, forever, according to the comical press:

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Russia running out of ‘easy’ oil
Nov 28 2021 - RT
Why Putin is acting like a man who has run out of time
Dec 23 2021 - Guardian
Italy could run out of gas due to Russia crisis – analysts
Feb 23 2022 - Montel
Rubio warns Putin's 'time is running out on this earth'
Mar 2 2022 - Washington Examiner
Putin is running out of options
Mar 3 2022 - New Statesman
Russian labs running out of equipment as sanctions begin to bite
Mar 7 2022 - Science Business
Putin’s depleted army is running out of time
Mar 23 2022 - Spectator
Russia running out of precision munitions in Ukraine war- Pentagon official
Mar 25 2022 - Reuters
Pentagon claim: Russia is running out of ammunition.
Mar 25 2022 - Sach Khabrain
Is the Russian Military running out of Soldiers?
Mar 28 2022 - Russia Matters
Russia May Be running out of Missiles
Mar 29 2022 - Newsmax
Russia running out Of Kh-55 Cruise Missiles Which Iran, China Have
Apr 3 2022 - IranIntl
Putin running out of missiles, jets and tanks because they're made in Ukraine
Apr 4 2022 - Mirror
Russian billionaires are running out of havens to stash their fortunes
Apr 8 2022 - Sydney Morning Herald
The Russian army is running out of options
Apr 9 2022 - Spectator
Is Russia Running Out of Money?
Apr 26 2022 - Trustnodes
SCORCHED EARTH Now humiliated Putin is running out of MISSILES in desperate bid to defeat Ukraine, UK armed forces chief tells TalkTV
May 5 2022 - Sun
‘Struggling’ Vladimir Putin is running out of missiles, UK says
May 6 2022 - News.au
Putin under intense pressure and could be running out of missiles, says UK army chief
May 6 2022 - Mirror
EMBARRASSING: Russia Now Running out of Missiles to Make War With
May 6 2022 - USSANews
Putin could be running out of missiles and is waging a 'logistics war' to keep his forces supplied
May 6 2022 - Daily Mail
Russia running out of weapons, can be defeated by Ukraine – UK Secretary
May 9 2022 - Daily Trust
Putin 'running out of bombs' and resorting to 'indiscriminate' civilian attacks, says UK
May 9 2022 - Daily Star
Russia is running out of precision-guided munitions and may struggle to replenish their stocks, says UK Defense Ministry
May 9 2022 - New Voice Of Ukraine
Putin is running out of Ideas on What to do Next
May 10 2022 - Bloomberg
Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is running out of steam, again
May 16 2022 - Economist
Is Russia running out of missiles? US, Russia send mixed messages
May 16 2022 - Jerusalem Post
'Russia is running out of manpower' and Putin may have to shrink his war aims more: national security analyst
May 16 2022 - Raw Story
Explainer: Is Russia Running Low on Missiles?
May 17 2022 - Moscow Times
Vladimir Putin is running out of options to avoid defeat in Ukraine
May 17 2022 - Atlantic Council
Putin is running out of soldiers and resorts to an “army of grandfathers” who retired 10 years ago
May 17 2022 - CvvNews
Crippled Russia running out of weapons as embarrassing war ending looms 'Shockingly inept'
May 21 2022 - Express
Vladimir Putin's 'time is running out' and his behaviour has changed, claims expert
May 21 2022 - Mirror
VLADIMIR PUTIN IS RUNNING OUT OF OPTIONS TO AVOID DEFEAT IN UKRAINE
May 22 2022 - Lucorg
Russia ‘running out of ideas’ in 3-month-old war. Can Ukraine win?
May 24 2022 - Global News
The Russian Army Is Running Out Of Tanks For The War In Ukraine. These 60-Year-Old T-62s Are Proof.
May 25 2022 - Forbes
Vladimir Putin’s forces are running out of tanks
May 27 2022 - Telegraph
Exact date Putin's forces will run out of ammunition in Ukraine, according to expert
May 31 2022 - Mirror
Time is running out for Russia, German economy minister says
Jun 2 2022 - Reuters

Posted by Clem Gray7490 2022-06-03 08:38|| 2022-06-03 08:38|| Front Page Top

#6 LOL

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Posted by Sluns Throling9140 2022-06-03 08:42|| 2022-06-03 08:42|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Herb Wheck4289 2022-06-03 08:47|| 2022-06-03 08:47|| Front Page Top

#8 Back on topic...

Andrew Kramer's New York Times dispatch today makes it very clear that the "victory" and "glory" narratives have died. Now the American public are being prepared to accept desperation and defeat.

Kramer ends his story this way:

Sergeant Mykola Pokotila, who was wounded in a battle north of the town of Sloviansk, Ukrainian soldiers in the East are beleaguered, said of enduring punishing Russian artillery barrages, “I’ve never seen such hell.”

Posted by Jean-Paul 2022-06-03 09:20|| 2022-06-03 09:20|| Front Page Top

#9 Andrew Kramer's New York Times dispatch today makes it very clear that the "victory" and "glory" narratives have died. Now the American public are being prepared to accept desperation and defeat.

He must mean ooing and ahhing over the intellectual gymnastics it took to convince the Times' writers the "American people" believed the bullsh*t they committed to ink.

Posted by badanov 2022-06-03 09:25|| 2022-06-03 09:25|| Front Page Top

#10 The beltway's endgame is "no end(game)."

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-06-03 09:51|| 2022-06-03 09:51|| Front Page Top

#11 Kramer / NY Times are not pulling any punches. Interesting that he was allowed to report this -- someone in the Biden Administration clearly has ordered a Narrative Shift in order that the American public be spared reports of a shock collapse like the one last summer in Afghanistan:

"Meanwhile, the strain on military families is showing.

In Lviv, a city in the West that has avoided serious shelling, wives and mothers of men in the 103rd Territorial Defense Brigade have protested, terrified about their husbands’ and sons’ deployment into combat in the East. To assuage concerns, a commander, Vitaliy Kupriy, met with about 200 women in a concert hall but the conversation devolved into screaming and crying, local media reported."

Posted by Jean-Paul 2022-06-03 10:23|| 2022-06-03 10:23|| Front Page Top

#12 Russian civilians would be shocked at the cost the military has taken in order to capture Severodonetsk.

Hundreds and hundreds of soldiers, (maybe over a thousand) and thousands of tanks, armored vehicles, etc.

Posted by lord garth 2022-06-03 12:22|| 2022-06-03 12:22|| Front Page Top

#13 On the front lines in the Donbas now are the hastily-assembled former teachers, laborers etc in Ukraine's "Territorial Defence Forces". These Ukrainian units are now experiencing casualty rates as high as 65%. This is because, as has been widely reported in the sympathetic US-UK press, they are "outmanned and outgunned" and have next to no training and are now rebelling and demanding to be sent home, to defend their families, as they were promised when they enlisted.

The cruel lies they've been told have provoked literally dozens of units to plead to be released from the front. Their wives' anguished pleas are now being reported, finally, in the New York Times and other western outlets.

Nonetheless, in the Donbas they number in the many thousands and enjoy the most advanced support, such as heavy weaponry, drones, artillery and real time actionable intelligence from NATO. In contrast to what the US and U.K. forces faced in late 2004 in Fallujah, the Russians are up against the firepower and all the tactical weaponry and advantages of not just a real army but of NATO itself.

The Russians' results are actually comparable to what our 13,000 troops achieved in Fallujah -- only much more rapidly and in the teeth of an enemy that possesses orders of magnitude more firepower and much more numerous and better supplied than the 3,000 or so ragtag Iraqi "insurgents".

Posted by Palmerston 2022-06-03 13:13|| 2022-06-03 13:13|| Front Page Top

#14 Ukraine's foreign legion joined the fight against the orcs for Severodonetsk yesterday and in the 24 hours since have cut the orcs supply line running through Metolkine.

Russians have fallen back to the edge of Severodonetsk city limits because of this unexpected development.

Posted by Cletle Shinese1880 2022-06-03 17:18|| 2022-06-03 17:18|| Front Page Top

#15 ^ Whoah, an unexpected development in a war! I bet no one expected that.

Posted by SteveS 2022-06-03 18:01|| 2022-06-03 18:01|| Front Page Top

#16 Washington Post:

"In a speech today [June 3] about the May jobs report from Rehoboth, Del., President Biden said that it “appears” a “settlement” would be needed between Ukraine and Russia to end the war"

Posted by Palmerston 2022-06-03 18:18|| 2022-06-03 18:18|| Front Page Top

#17 /\ There were 'settlements' that partitioned Poland, Czechoslovakia, Austria...

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