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2022-03-14 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

Why Did Russia Invade The Ukraine? Here Are The Real Reasons You're Not Being Told

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Posted by Omomolet Phutch9064 2022-03-14 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11126 views ] Top

#1 Videos and eyewitness accounts of the devastating Russian strikes on the #Yavoriv NATO training facility 15km from the Polish border where thousands of foreign volunteers ("mercenaries") had gathered. The crater shown in one of the videos appears to be about 15m deep and over 20m wide

https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=%23Yavoriv&src=typeahead_click

Posted by Whising Untervehr2079 2022-03-14 00:52|| 2022-03-14 00:52|| Front Page Top

#2 Huge block of text telling us nothing new is snipped

Thank you very much.

Posted by Ulusose Henbane5137 2022-03-14 06:35|| 2022-03-14 06:35|| Front Page Top

#3 More Moscow based propaganda. When did Rantburg go over to Moscow's guidance like lap dogs and why?

Posted by Flater Forkbeard8651 2022-03-14 08:49|| 2022-03-14 08:49|| Front Page Top

#4 Once again, personal attacks against the author.

No debate or arguments presented against the topic.

Censorship. Because of course what the US government and media are telling you is correct. This site is much like the left, you can't point out when they've got the wrong take.

Posted by Omomolet Phutch9064 2022-03-14 09:44|| 2022-03-14 09:44|| Front Page Top

#5 Nothing here stops anyone from going to the link. That's not censorship.

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-03-14 09:47|| 2022-03-14 09:47|| Front Page Top

#6 No debate or arguments presented against the topic.

The topic is the situation in the Ukraine, Omomolet Phutch9064. That there are some nasty white supremacist idiots in the Ukraine who were very probably trained in paramilitary skills by equally nasty white supremacist idiots in Russia with the connivance of the Federal Security Service is not news to readers of this site, and therefore no longer interesting to them. We’ve debated the question as much as needed to extract the useful information. Beyond that we’d be entering the realm of onanism, inappropriate for a family blog.

Just because you are excited by this single fact in a much larger situation does not mean that we need to be excited. Nor does your hatred of “Nazis” mean that we must give up our hatred of Communists as well as Nazis, as we see both as equally vile.

And this piece, unlike the other one you submitted, wasn’t even worth fisking. I read enough of it to know.

Posted by trailing wife 2022-03-14 10:33|| 2022-03-14 10:33|| Front Page Top

#7 Perhaps we need a new category in addition to WoT, Non-WoT, etc. Howzabout "Troll Wars"? It would give our trolls a place to express themselves and throw talking points without cluttering up everything else. It's a genius idea, if I do say so myself.

Posted by SteveS 2022-03-14 10:37|| 2022-03-14 10:37|| Front Page Top

#8 Once again, personal attacks against the author.

No debate or arguments presented against the topic.

Pedigree, like context, matters.

Posted by badanov 2022-03-14 10:39|| 2022-03-14 10:39|| Front Page Top

#9 I think dealing with trolls when and where they present themselves is good practice. One more way to avoid becoming intellectually lazy. But I do appreciate and respect the idea that they can also be so tiresome that a "time out" area has its attractions.

In the end, I'd hope at least a few of them might learn something by being called out. Probably too much to hope for, but I'm a glass half full kind of guy, at least until it's time to reach for the bottle again...

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-03-14 10:40|| 2022-03-14 10:40|| Front Page Top

#10 /\ One need not be an "intellectual" to be lazy. Just ask my wife.

Posted by Besoeker 2022-03-14 10:43|| 2022-03-14 10:43|| Front Page Top

#11 I prefer to think I have adopted the Southern US habit of moving, thinking and speaking at "a dignified pace..."

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-03-14 10:45|| 2022-03-14 10:45|| Front Page Top

#12 No Nazis here. Nope.

The DOJ Is Investigating Americans For War Crimes Allegedly Committed While Fighting With Far-Right Extremists In Ukraine

The probe involves seven men but is centered on former Army soldier Craig Lang, who is separately wanted in connection with a double killing in Florida and is fighting extradition from Kyiv.

KYIV — One chilly day in February, Craig Lang, a former US Army soldier wanted for allegedly killing a married couple in Florida, pleaded with three stern-faced judges in a Kyiv courtroom to allow him to stay in Ukraine. He first came in 2015 to fight with a far-right paramilitary unit, defending the country from Russia-backed forces. And he believed that if he were extradited back to the US, he could face war crimes charges.

Posted by Glurong Elminerong8594 2022-03-14 10:53|| 2022-03-14 10:53|| Front Page Top

#13 Considering what Stalin did to the Ukraine, is it surprising that some Ukrainians admire the only group to kick the Soviets' butts?

Posted by Mercutio 2022-03-14 11:11|| 2022-03-14 11:11|| Front Page Top

#14 Any excuse will do in a court room. Same for Russians when invading another country.

Posted by Angaiper Ulavins1210 2022-03-14 11:14|| 2022-03-14 11:14|| Front Page Top

#15 I hear a lot of finger pointing and see a lot of discussion but no proof.

Posted by AlmostAnonymous5839 2022-03-14 11:22|| 2022-03-14 11:22|| Front Page Top

#16 More dissent from the Narrative

Posted by Jumbo Clinter4151 2022-03-14 11:22|| 2022-03-14 11:22|| Front Page Top

#17 Once again, personal attacks against the author.

Yep, that's herb.

Posted by Skidmark 2022-03-14 11:23|| 2022-03-14 11:23|| Front Page Top

#18 Why did Russia invade Ukraine?
Easy. They wanted it. End of story.

Posted by European Conservative 2022-03-14 16:42|| 2022-03-14 16:42|| Front Page Top

#19 That there are some nasty white supremacist idiots in the Ukraine who were very probably trained in paramilitary skills by equally nasty white supremacist idiots in Russia with the connivance of the Federal Security Service is not news to readers of this site, and therefore no longer interesting to them.

They were trained by the CIA. In fact some years ago Congress banned further training of them because they're Nazis.

It's not news? A few days ago people were shouting that it was TEH PUTINBOTZ lying about Nazis in Ukraine. Now it's so well-known that it need not be discussed any more? How does that work?

Which is it, a lie by ROOSHIN SPIES or a hoary old wives' tale? It can't be both.

Posted by Omomolet Phutch9064 2022-03-14 17:31|| 2022-03-14 17:31|| Front Page Top

#20 Omomolet Phutch9064 way out of your millennial league here boy.

Posted by Woodrow 2022-03-14 19:32|| 2022-03-14 19:32|| Front Page Top

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