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2022-03-02 India-Pakistan
Ukraine: Why India is not criticising Russia over invasion
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Posted by Skidmark 2022-03-02 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ]  Top

#1 India China and Russia will join together in a trade and mutual assistance pact so that none of them will ever be hostage to US dollar warfare.

Eventually these three economies will create a trading bloc that will be significantly larger than the US or the EU. Other "nonaligned" nations will seek to join it.

This will be the end of US domination of the global economic system. A lot like the end of Britain / sterling's dominance after 1918.
Posted by Huperens Slaing8815 2022-03-02 01:47||   2022-03-02 01:47|| Front Page Top

#2 India and Russia are very close, its unfortunate but that is the situation
Posted by BernardZ 2022-03-02 02:20||   2022-03-02 02:20|| Front Page Top

#3 India and China, Huperens Slaing8815? When they have that low grade border war on the glacier because China keeps moving the border markers? Based on what we’ve seen here, it seems unlikely, but I’m open to persuasion. Can you provide an open source to support your contention? In Russian or Ukrainian would be fine — our people can translate into English.
Posted by trailing wife 2022-03-02 02:46||   2022-03-02 02:46|| Front Page Top

#4  India may've been a greater ally if the west hadn't made a choice with moslems every time over the interests of the subcontinent. And that's the root of all these troubles. I mean you've got big guns, but you don't know jack about where to point them or why. I wish there was a polite way to say it.

India seems all kissy-kissy, huggy-huggy only because it's sold to you that way. We are far from all-weather friends and Vlad knows it too. Geopolitics is only business for us. As it should be for anyone. This one's just not our business. Only a fool would alienate from perfectly okay partners over hoopla about 'conquest' and 'fascism' created by media educated bleeding hearts and hypocrites. Except for America who has a habit of getting dragged into shit for things totally insignificant to its actual citizen. Give them a bit of hubris to chomp on, a bit of McCarthyesque panic, copy pasted articles in the MSM, wind them up with floating heads in the teevee saying, 'Oh-a-real-man-would've-shown-Rooshia!' And watch 'em go.

And what good does 'criticizing' do? Unlike what the globalist lobbies want the ritalin and adderall soaked milksops of today to presume, this thing isn't as boo hoo hoo as it's being narrated. There are no angels in this fight, except the innocent people being pressured and panicked by a mad regime in Kiev to fight to their deaths. Just so the Rada can become an under-office of Brussels and free from the 'non-democratic' authoritarianism of Moscow. Gawd knows everyone could do with a bit of authoritarianism in this time, even if as a counter to the great supranational experiment. UKR was going to sell out its 'sovereignty' anyway in 2024. To Europe, which we don't care for. So there's that.

India has known this since the euromaidan protests when the Putin flunky was replaced with the globalist flunky, this has to end badly. It's just that Trump would have talked both parties into maybe letting Donbass go and the EU rejecting Zelensky, and told NATO 'you admit them, you pay for them!' All the while telling 'I scared off Vlad' to hooting pubs back home.

No angels, only more Open Society re-engineering, and more meddling and regime change in the name of 'showing 'em Rooshians, har har!' For what? Another Marshall Plan for a European interest paid for with American dollars?

Oh, I know you can't agree, we all serve the sides we serve. But people need to think about things before being railroaded into reacting.
Posted by Dron66046 2022-03-02 04:05||   2022-03-02 04:05|| Front Page Top

#5 ^ Well said. The American and Ukrainian peoples are getting played, God alone knows to what end. Lots of poor Ukrainians are going to be killed, for nothing. Lots of Americans are going to be made poorer, for nothing.

India and China will pick up the pieces from America's foolish decision to bring America's global dominance to an end.

Why your leaders are rushing forward in this mad way is a mystery. It's unfathomable to any rational student of international relations. American experts from all the best IR programs, most of your intelligence analysts and diplomats all recognized how foolish and self-destructive it was for America to encourage little rabbits in Ukraine to annoy Russia, but this is where we are.

It's a riddle. Sort of like the mystery as to why Britain, France, Tsarist Russia, Wilhelmina Germany etc rushed into the Great War that caused the end of Europe's global dominance.

I guess it's Biblical. Pride goeth before a fall - for hegemonic powers no less than for Fallen Man.
Posted by Sheba Borgia7123 2022-03-02 07:51||   2022-03-02 07:51|| Front Page Top

#6 What I like about India is you don't hear HELP ME, I HATE YOU to the US. They are much more subtle with their hate.
Posted by Vespasian Ebboting9735 2022-03-02 07:57||   2022-03-02 07:57|| Front Page Top

#7 @#3 Open source? It's just obvious to any economist or banker - these people are not brainwashed by hysterical West's propaganda. They can see the writing on the wall.

The only thing propping up US dominance today is the dollar as reserve currency. Does the US dominate anything in the real economy? Not even close. It's just one nation among many that have great resources. Most of the strategic resources are outside America's control.

Now even US universities are destroying America's scientific and engineering strength as well. Most of your great entrepreneurs and scientists were from India China Russia etc anyway. You're alienating most of the Chinese and Russian immigrants. Why the hell would anybody go to or remain in such an insane place like America now?

There's no better surer faster way to destroy that position than to show all the nation's of the world that the US is such an insane and unreliable hegemon that it will use the dollar like a nuclear weapon. To destroy any nation whose foreign policy it hates. To try to turn a great nation into another North Korea. For nothing.

It's the most bizarre thing we've ever seen. People are really strange I guess.

Posted by Muggsy McCoy6501 2022-03-02 08:03||   2022-03-02 08:03|| Front Page Top

#8 "I mean you've got big guns, but you don't know jack about where to point them or why. I wish there was a polite way to say it"

America is a child in possession of big guns. Fire, ready, aim.

No other great power in history would have thrown away its power as America has since 1995. So many stupid interventions. In Serbia - to help Kosovar Liberation Army jihadi terrorists. In Iraq - to destroy Iran's rival and build up Iran. In Afghanistan - to help Pakistan ISI and Taliban take over and kick you out. In Libya - to trash the country. In Syria - to build up ISIL.

And again you intervene like a hysterical little adolescent girl, to try to punish one of your "enemies". A Christian nation that doesn't threaten you and that wants to be left alone, not threatened with your military alliance at its edge.

No nation in its right mind will any more trust the American child to use this nuclear economic weapon of dollar dominance. Start thinking, use common sense
Posted by Eohippus Speaking for Boskone8148 2022-03-02 08:15||   2022-03-02 08:15|| Front Page Top

#9 You want open source? Do you read Chinese or Russian or are you like 99% of monolingual Americans?

If you don't read other languages - I don't mean propaganda like in German etc western press, I mean Chinese - then at least try reading the Asian papers which are in English like asiatimes.com

Even Wall Street Journal reports today, CHINA SAYS IT WONT JOIN SANCTIONS ON RUSSIA https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-news-2022-03-02?mod=mhp

Oh here's Bloomberg podcast today

How the Russia-Ukraine War Threatens the Dollar's Dominance
Credit Suisse strategist tells Bloomberg's Odd Lots podcast that the U.S. dollar has reached a critical inflection point.
Posted by Hupomotch Glinesing3503 2022-03-02 08:57||   2022-03-02 08:57|| Front Page Top

#10 25% of the world's grain imports comes through the Black Sea, from Russia-Ukraine.

Look at the biggest countries to Russia's south. Turkey and Egypt rely on Black Sea RU-UA for 70% of their wheat imports. You really think these two large nations will let their children go hungry just to join more insane American sanctions? Do you think they're leaders are as stupid as America's leaders?
Posted by Cravique Thromoth9453 2022-03-02 09:15||   2022-03-02 09:15|| Front Page Top

#11 Why would they? Russia supplies them with quality armaments, does not hold back on licensed to redesign or jointly develop. And does not sell goods for an arbitrarily inflated price by bribing their officials. You know who does that? Europe.

More than socialist ties both nations know what it is like to deal with the petridish called islamic terrorism. Also both have faced the hardships of building self sustaining economies despite obstruction, threats, interference, malice.

China, only the profit motive works for them, and maybe anything that they imagine helps their 'all under heaven' fantasy. And they own both American and European bureaucrats o it's good bet to assume they own Russian bureaucrats too. They have probably hedged their best both ways by now.

No I don't think that a larger economic bloc is possible. Just interdependence and unrestricted trade that will not be obstructed or held to ransom by the west. And anti-terrorist and war policies not subject to the whims of some commitee in Vienna or New York.
Posted by Cthulhu of Ryleh 2022-03-02 09:24||   2022-03-02 09:24|| Front Page Top

#12 China is refusing to join Uncle Sam's sanctions
India will not follow Uncle Sam
Turkey and Egypt will not join these sanctions
Brazil will not join these sanctions
and so on

Hoorah! You just created a rival bloc that will destroy dollar dominance

Well done lads!
Posted by Enver Barnsmell8794 2022-03-02 09:35||   2022-03-02 09:35|| Front Page Top

#13 Is Russia or China full of Indians working hard and sending paychecks back home? I know America is. What about call centers and other facilities built in India by Russia or China and employing Indians? India is far closer to America than it appears.

No matter what the Indian government says or does if push comes to shove these economic factors have to be considered.
Posted by ruprecht 2022-03-02 10:17||   2022-03-02 10:17|| Front Page Top

#14 Oh noes! The Troll Farm is working overtime!
Posted by Frank G 2022-03-02 10:53||   2022-03-02 10:53|| Front Page Top

#15 Thick with Russian trolls here today
Posted by Chealing Chomotle4158 2022-03-02 10:53||   2022-03-02 10:53|| Front Page Top

#16 Surprised trolls bother, small audience.
Posted by Vespasian Ebboting9735 2022-03-02 11:17||   2022-03-02 11:17|| Front Page Top

#17 Gotta work harder - the ruble doesn't go as far as it used to...a couple weeks ago
Posted by Frank G 2022-03-02 11:18||   2022-03-02 11:18|| Front Page Top

#18 "Trolls" LOL
So stupid - you don't even see how your own leaders are destroying your country. It wasn't enough for them to stick you with a vaccine that's unsafe and doesn't work. You have to export your stupidity to the world's economy and destroy that too.

Do you even have any idea how many commodities Russia has and the rest of the non-western world imports from Russia? The Chinese know. So do the Indians. That's why they're going to join Russia and bring down the dollar.

Here's a partial list, correct your ignorance:
Wheat
Oil and gas
Coal
Titanium
Palladium
Potash for fertilizer
Nickel
Gold and diamonds
etc

You think you're isolating Russia because your stupid self-absorbed propaganda press tells you so.

The view from China and India - and Egypt and Turgey and Brazil and most of the rest of the world - is the total opposite of what western screaming press headlines suggest.

All America is doing now is to force the rest of the world to stop relying on dollars for their trade. Your foolish president going to destroy US hegemony and end dollar dominance

Stupidest foreign policy blunder since ... well since the last American foreign policy fuckup .. Afghanistan
or Syria
or Libya
or Iraq
Posted by Voldemort Jones6446 2022-03-02 11:33||   2022-03-02 11:33|| Front Page Top

#19 Man this is entertaining. That Rantburg deserves such attention says something boys. I guess we must have been 'mentioned in dispatches' that Langley fails to keep from their Russian counterparts (as though that hasn't happened normally).
Posted by Procopius2k 2022-03-02 11:39||   2022-03-02 11:39|| Front Page Top

#20 BTW, an American colloquialism - if you are catching that much flak, you are over target.
Posted by Procopius2k 2022-03-02 11:42||   2022-03-02 11:42|| Front Page Top

#21 /\ Thank you Voldemort. Excellent perspectives. More please. Send links, etc. Please get us smart on these issues.
Posted by Besoeker 2022-03-02 11:43||   2022-03-02 11:43|| Front Page Top

#22 Tucker Carlson: "Much of the information about the war that you are ingesting uncritically has in fact been curated by the tech monopolies & yes by the intel agencies by the time it reaches your iPhone."
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-03-02 11:46||   2022-03-02 11:46|| Front Page Top

#23 Surprised trolls bother, small audience.

Perhaps the cost of running a web crawler to find targets of interest has fallen. Perhaps Rantburg is more widely read than we (meaning me) realize.
Posted by SteveS 2022-03-02 11:46||   2022-03-02 11:46|| Front Page Top

#24 Besoeker: read asiatimes.com
Also davidpgoldman on twitter
Posted by Angomomp Wittlesbach7438 2022-03-02 11:49||   2022-03-02 11:49|| Front Page Top

#25 davidpgoldman is a good economist and a brilliant analyst of China and world events who is under no pressure to repeat all the bullshit or engage in the ritual virtue-signaling that his former colleagues in New York are now falling all over themselves to do

get outside your little echo chamber for once

the non-western world sees this exactly the OPPOSITE of how your little cheerleaders inside their cave want you to see it
Posted by Winky de Medici2240 2022-03-02 11:57||   2022-03-02 11:57|| Front Page Top

#26 "you don't even see how your own leaders are destroying your country"

That made me laugh.
Posted by ruprecht 2022-03-02 12:00||   2022-03-02 12:00|| Front Page Top

#27 your poor people will be crying soon

All Biden the Fool is doing us impoverishing millions of Americans.

Their food bills will crush them - the wheat price is soaring
Their savings will erode even further than they have already
Interest rates will soar - so much for the American Dream of ever buys by a house
Higher input costs for everything will throw America into recession this year or next

This is like a disaster movie in slow motion.

All because your stupid president decided to tell Zelensky he could refuse Putin's offer
Posted by Greating Ghibelline3891 2022-03-02 12:07||   2022-03-02 12:07|| Front Page Top

#28 your poor people will be crying soon
All Biden the Fool is doing us impoverishing millions of Americans.

You are a year too late on that.
Posted by Procopius2k 2022-03-02 12:13||   2022-03-02 12:13|| Front Page Top

#29 Much worse is coming. how will the average American family afford to heat their houses and feed their children when you have hyperinflation?

Your president said yesterday, that he will bring down health care costs to seven percent of family's income. How? With whose money? You're already thirty trillion in debt.

Does anyone in Washington know how to do basic math? Oh that's right, your educational system has gone to shit and you have to import Russian and Chinese and Indian mathematicians
Posted by Albert and Company2034 2022-03-02 12:31||   2022-03-02 12:31|| Front Page Top

#30 Does anyone in Washington know how to do basic math?

No. You just catch up on that? /rhetorical question
Posted by Procopius2k 2022-03-02 12:43||   2022-03-02 12:43|| Front Page Top

#31 you have to import Russian and Chinese and Indian mathematicians

Yeah, and our German scientists were better than your German scientists. First on the moon.
Posted by Procopius2k 2022-03-02 12:45||   2022-03-02 12:45|| Front Page Top

#32 I had no idea our RB voice had such disproportionate reach. Gosh dear proto-Tsarist/Cheka readers, I actually find that very refreshing. Oh, and I find your genuine command of English, idiom, current events and history impressive. That much effort and dedication signals less an affinity for all-things American and more about knowing the enemy you fear and seek to destroy. Some tings never change, just the techniques...
Posted by NoMoreBS 2022-03-02 12:46||   2022-03-02 12:46|| Front Page Top

#33 Who's going to do math and create advanced algorithms for you when the supply of Chinese and Russian mathematicians dries up?

Or are your George Floyds going to do it, with jungle math and rapper algo-rhythm?
Posted by Thock Ebbaper2795 2022-03-02 12:47||   2022-03-02 12:47|| Front Page Top

#34 "Some tings never change, just the techniques..."

Irey irey! Yeah mon, every little ting gon be alright
Posted by Angusoting Lover of the Wee Folk5047 2022-03-02 12:49||   2022-03-02 12:49|| Front Page Top

#35 Your journalists can't even translate other languages properly. Financial Times got it wrong today - China foreign minister did NOT "deplore" the outbreak of conflict.

Here is @HuXijin_GT on twitter:

"Chinese FM Wang Yi didn’t “deplore” the outbreak of conflict. He used Chinese word “痛惜“, which means deeply grieved. More important, 痛惜 doesn’t include the meaning of criticism. Financial Times shouldn’t translate the word as “deplore”.
Posted by Eohippus Tojo3676 2022-03-02 13:00||   2022-03-02 13:00|| Front Page Top

#36 Eohippus Tojo3676 pick one name and stick with it.
Posted by Woodrow 2022-03-02 13:24||   2022-03-02 13:24|| Front Page Top

#37 "How? With whose money? You're already thirty trillion in debt."
2024 Republicans sweep into Congress humiliating the Democrats (a large chunk of whom aren't even running)
2028 Trump returns planning a balanced budget. He drills, he opens up pipelines and does the other things that go our economy humming and this time takes the deficit seriously. This time without so much Democrat interference along every step of the way. This time without half the world blanching at mean tweets and pretending the US is the greatest danger to the world.

Yes it'll be ugly along the way, but that's how it will happen.
Posted by ruprecht 2022-03-02 13:27||   2022-03-02 13:27|| Front Page Top

#38 You're already thirty trillion in debt.

All uniparty politicians in DC: "Hold my beer..."
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-03-02 13:31||   2022-03-02 13:31|| Front Page Top

#39 looking at Voldemort's list of commodities

today
Oil up 8% or so
Wheat up 8% or so

the other commodities either aren't on the Mercantile exchange or they are up or down only modestly, e.g., Palladium up about 1%, nickel not on the exchange
Posted by Lord Garth 2022-03-02 15:38||   2022-03-02 15:38|| Front Page Top

#40 Johnson Matthey brokerage in Asia tracks spot prices for platinum, palladium, rhodium, iridium, ruthenium, other precious metals

Ex.
http://www.platinum.matthey.com/prices
Posted by Betty Phing8929 2022-03-02 17:23||   2022-03-02 17:23|| Front Page Top

#41 Look at the biggest countries to Russia's south. Turkey and Egypt rely on Black Sea RU-UA for 70% of their wheat imports. You really think these two large nations will let their children go hungry just to join more insane American sanctions?

I suspect that given the impact of what's happened already that they won't have to join the insane American sanctions to enjoy the benefits of a wheat shortage and its subsequent aftereffects.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2022-03-02 18:31||   2022-03-02 18:31|| Front Page Top

#42 Much worse is coming. how will the average American family afford to heat their houses and feed their children when you have hyperinflation?

well, my hope is if we can kick out the pro-Russian faction that's in office now in DC, we can start drilling for ourselves again and be able to afford oil no matter what happens to the dollar.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2022-03-02 18:34||   2022-03-02 18:34|| Front Page Top

#43 I think the "But Your Dollar Dominance!" must have been mimeographed and spread around the office.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2022-03-02 18:37||   2022-03-02 18:37|| Front Page Top

#44 ya think?
Posted by Frank G 2022-03-02 19:31||   2022-03-02 19:31|| Front Page Top

#45 Remember there once was no 'Dollar Dominance' till the Euros decided to go full tribal fratricide the last time. Somehow we survived.
Posted by Procopius2k 2022-03-02 19:42||   2022-03-02 19:42|| Front Page Top

#46 You dopes don't even understand how your global system works. If you don't own the reserve currency you won't be the top dog anymore. Your independence and your options will be sharply curtailed. Your people will be poorer. You will have to choose between an overpowering military and wild overspending on domestic priorities.

You'll have to suffer the consequences of economic decisions made elsewhere - by bankers and corporations and governments across the world especially in China

Do you understand?

The Indian guy in #4 above tried to explain it to you but you're too arrogant to listen to anyone outside your little propaganda echo chamber ... he said

#4 India may've been a greater ally if the west hadn't made a choice with moslems every time..

This one's just not our business. Only a fool would alienate from perfectly okay partners over hoopla about 'conquest' and 'fascism' created by media educated bleeding hearts and hypocrites.

Except for America who has a habit of getting dragged into shit for things totally insignificant to its actual citizen. Give them a bit of hubris to chomp on, a bit of McCarthyesque panic, copy pasted articles in the MSM, wind them up with floating heads in the teevee saying, 'Oh-a-real-man-would've-shown-Rooshia!' And watch 'em go.

There are no angels in this fight, except the innocent people being pressured and panicked by a mad regime in Kiev to fight to their deaths. Just so the Rada can become an under-office of Brussels and free from the 'non-democratic' authoritarianism of Moscow.

India has known this since the euromaidan protests when the Putin flunky was replaced with the globalist flunky, this has to end badly.

No angels, only more Open Society re-engineering, and more meddling and regime change in the name of 'showing 'em Rooshians, har har!' For what? Another Marshall Plan for a European interest paid for with American dollars?

Oh, I know you can't agree, we all serve the sides we serve. But people need to think about things before being railroaded into reacting.
Posted by Ulusotle Glaviger5775 2022-03-02 19:54||   2022-03-02 19:54|| Front Page Top

#47 I think our troll has an ulterior motive - he must be hedging and is shorting against the dollar. This sounds a lot like the old boiler room approach to stock boards in an attempt at manipulation. He needs the dollar down so he can buy it back cheap and clear his short position.
Posted by Chealing Chomotle4158 2022-03-02 20:19||   2022-03-02 20:19|| Front Page Top

#48 Could well be. I've seen the same tripe on zerohedge.

Riddle me this: Why should cutting off Russia, with a GDP less than that of Italy, and still growing shrinking, tank the dollar? In favor of what, the ruble? Pull the other one.
Posted by Nero 2022-03-02 20:23||   2022-03-02 20:23|| Front Page Top

#49 Paranoid morons. No one with even a first semester MBA student's grasp of finance needs to be told how to make money now, so quit pissing your trousers

The dollar's decline will take a while, maybe two years or four or five. That's NOT how to make money now.

This is about ***power***, that is all. America is destroying its power base. You're so clueless you can't even connect the dots
Posted by Dopey Glock6268 2022-03-02 20:30||   2022-03-02 20:30|| Front Page Top

#50 Thanks. Ask for a raise on your Ruble-salary. Soon.
Posted by Frank G 2022-03-02 20:32||   2022-03-02 20:32|| Front Page Top

#51  I think our troll has an ulterior motive - he must be hedging and is shorting against the dollar.

Hell, I've been hedging against the Dollar for about four years now. And I'm poor! That still doesn't mean Putin's right, or we can suddenly save the dollar by sucking his dick. Biden's sucking his dick already, and all they can do is complain about it and threaten the dollar some more.

It makes me wish we had a real president.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2022-03-02 20:36||   2022-03-02 20:36|| Front Page Top

#52 frank, notice they don't actually engage with people, they don't argue back because that's a high effort thing. They just post the Current Argument.

That's why the pro-Putin trolls never actually respond to stuff like 'Hunter was employed by a bunch of Putin's cronies at Burisma...'

Maybe it's some sort of AI?
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2022-03-02 20:39||   2022-03-02 20:39|| Front Page Top

#53 Yep - bots with current AI talking points. You can spot the current talking points. "The Zelenskyy cabinet went out for dinner on YOUR credit card!" should be, what, Saturday?
Posted by Frank G 2022-03-02 20:44||   2022-03-02 20:44|| Front Page Top

#54 AI, let me introduce you to natural stupidity
Posted by Victor Emmanuel Omaviper9923 2022-03-02 20:47||   2022-03-02 20:47|| Front Page Top

#55  2024 Republicans sweep into Congress humiliating the Democrats (a large chunk of whom aren't even running)
2028 Trump returns planning a balanced budget.

2022 and 2024, ruprecht, surely.

Mr. Trump planned on a balanced budget in 2016, but the senior Republicans were giddy at the thought of spending on their projects instead of Democrat ones, and snubbed him. So he had to make do with controlling where he could, and let the rest go until later. We’ll see if this round goes better.
Posted by trailing wife 2022-03-02 21:50||   2022-03-02 21:50|| Front Page Top

#56 I think I should have kept my thoughts to myself. Sorry for giving evil mocker AI any ammo. My rant was not about 'You Americans, rrraaaa!' I have a deep connexion with America, suffice to say I have skin in the game.

I meant this is the view from afar, if you stand a little ways off from policy whisperers and baiters working as lobbyists and thinktanks goading Presidents and defence departments to look eastward while Uncle Soros and his ilk work on their domestic.

And I would never revel in any defeat or bumble America suffers, this whole thing is unfortunately happening all because the putsch was successful and traitors are in office. We haven't forgotten the Vindmans and the Sondlands and the current administration's interests in Ukraine. 'Toria Nuland and the regime change in Kiev? In fact the same machine that upended democracy itself to effect regime change within America, spent billions steadfastly supporting Zelensky's installation. Nobody here at Rantburg can seriously not ponder on this.

The idea is not to 'rub it in' or cheer what's happening. I just meant that some players see this as a necessary evil. Are they wrong? Maybe. Is evil ever necessary? To me, all the kingdoms of man are irreconcilably corrupt and not worth even getting het up about.
Posted by Dron66046 2022-03-02 22:44||   2022-03-02 22:44|| Front Page Top

#57 You’re fine, Dron. You rather spiked the “all you ignorant, stupid Americans” line of attack by being from the far side of the world, and we know your rant came from loving frustration. You’ve been even more harsh about your own country — and I imagine you’d not be gentler about Russia.

We needn’t agree completely to be friends, my dear.
Posted by trailing wife 2022-03-02 23:26||   2022-03-02 23:26|| Front Page Top

#58 Please continue to contribute Dron.
Posted by Besoeker 2022-03-02 23:33||   2022-03-02 23:33|| Front Page Top

#59 No apologies, Dron! It was a good rant. At the very least, you laid out a position without name calling and curse words. Even better, we got an inside view from someone with skin in the game.

And it was fun to read.
Posted by SteveS 2022-03-02 23:50||   2022-03-02 23:50|| Front Page Top

23:50 SteveS
23:35 trailing wife
23:34 Besoeker
23:33 Besoeker
23:33 trailing wife
23:26 trailing wife
22:44 Dron66046
22:13 Richard Aubrey
22:01 Clyde Untervehr8732
21:55 trailing wife
21:50 trailing wife
21:38 SteveS
21:20 Lord Garth
21:10 SteveS
21:06 Chealing Chomotle4158
21:01 SteveS
21:00 Chealing Chomotle4158
20:58 Besoeker
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