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2022-02-07 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Ukraine crisis: Macron says a deal to avoid war is within reach
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Posted by Besoeker 2022-02-07 00:01|| || Front Page|| [11135 views ]  Top

#1 "Peace in our Time." Part deux?
Posted by magpie 2022-02-07 00:44||   2022-02-07 00:44|| Front Page Top

#2 not if slow joe has something to do with it.
Posted by Chris 2022-02-07 00:58||   2022-02-07 00:58|| Front Page Top

#3 1. Russia and NATO agree that Ukraine will be sovereign i.e. independent of both NATO membership and Russian military coercion. In effect, Ukraine will become what Austria was during the Cold War: a non-aligned borderland.

2. NATO will allow inspections by Russia of its missile facilities at forward bases in nations bordering Ukraine and Russia.

3. Russia will pull its forces back to some agreed-upon distance from the Ukrainian border. Russia will cease provocations in eastern Ukraine in exchange for limited autonomy for those Russian-speaking regions.

4. Ukraine will ensure that Russian Crimea has access to Ukrainian fresh water sources. Russia will ensure that Ukraine has access to Russian gas.

5. US and Russia will create a working group to explore cooperation against Islamist and other threats on Russia's southern flank, including in the Middle East and Afghanistan.

6. Brandon shall not be required to leave his bunker or take questions on any of the above. All official US statements will be scripted by Nicholas Burns, Thomas Graham and other old Russia Hands at State and will be read by an animatronic version of the current POTUS.

Posted by Merrick Ferret 2022-02-07 01:36||   2022-02-07 01:36|| Front Page Top

#4  Russia will ensure that Ukraine has access to Russian gas.

Seriously? How will they do that when it’s such a perfect weapon when the Ukrainians such feeling uppity again?
Posted by trailing wife 2022-02-07 04:23||   2022-02-07 04:23|| Front Page Top

#5 #1 Looks like the war ghouls on Rantburg are supporting another new war. Blood for the blood god! Fill the cemetery at Arlington with American teenagers. Folded American flags for weeping mothers everywhere!
Posted by Sheter the Lesser9291 2022-02-07 06:11||   2022-02-07 06:11|| Front Page Top

#6 /\ Don't think you'll find many "war ghouls" at this site.
Posted by Besoeker 2022-02-07 06:39||   2022-02-07 06:39|| Front Page Top

#7 Remember at least this much come Nov.
We have a President and a Congress that would rather secure the borders of foreign nations than protect and secure the borders they are sworn to protect by their Oath Of Office.
Posted by NN2N1 2022-02-07 07:00||   2022-02-07 07:00|| Front Page Top

#8 #5 you'll find the ruling caste who drive those things over there <-
Posted by Procopius2k 2022-02-07 07:24||   2022-02-07 07:24|| Front Page Top

#9 The 'ruling class' was easily identified long ago.
They were the ones with the back-to-back draft deferments.
Posted by Besoeker 2022-02-07 07:41||   2022-02-07 07:41|| Front Page Top

#10 #4 Russia will ensure that Ukraine has access to Russian gas.

Seriously? How will they do that when it’s such a perfect weapon when the Ukrainians such feeling uppity again?

Because the Ukrainians can once again easily cut off 90% of the supply of fresh water from the North Crimean Canal to that arid peninsula called Crimea. (Another not-so-trivial story that our yellow press and hysterically anti-Russian hawks have conveniently ignored.)
Posted by Merrick Ferret 2022-02-07 08:56||   2022-02-07 08:56|| Front Page Top

#11 Don't think you'll find many "war ghouls" at this site.

Some idiots though.
Posted by Skidmark 2022-02-07 10:40||   2022-02-07 10:40|| Front Page Top

#12 Merrick Ferret what's to prevent the Russians from taking over the canal?
Posted by Deacon Blues 2022-02-07 10:53||   2022-02-07 10:53|| Front Page Top

#13 Looks like the war ghouls on Rantburg are supporting another new war. Blood for the blood god! Fill the cemetery at Arlington with American teenagers. Folded American flags for weeping mothers everywhere!

Yeah, well, the commies are out on ficklebook too ranting about capitalism, so I'm guessing some new poll numbers are out. Perhaps a new hunger game designer is flexing.
Posted by swksvolFF 2022-02-07 14:02||   2022-02-07 14:02|| Front Page Top

#14 I did see that Team Syria is courting Brandon for weapons, attempting to re-form the Anti-Assad Company and Laundry Mat.

Come to think of it, Brandon does seem to be doing some real War Ghoul shit. Perhaps there is a Hunter's Art World forum you could go to with your grievances?
Posted by swksvolFF 2022-02-07 14:04||   2022-02-07 14:04|| Front Page Top

#15 what's to prevent the Russians from taking over the canal?

All the more reason to compromise and negotiate an agreement. Russia holds all the cards. They want more than anything else to close off the possibility, for good, that NATO or any hostile power will establish a base at Sevastopol.

The equivalent for us would be the China establishing a military base on the Gulf of Mexico just across the Rio Grande.

Unthinkable, to be prevented at all costs, by ANY Russian government--even a pro-western democratic one.
Posted by Merrick Ferret 2022-02-07 14:28||   2022-02-07 14:28|| Front Page Top

#16 #6 Russian sock puppets? Could be some around.
Posted by Nero 2022-02-07 15:50||   2022-02-07 15:50|| Front Page Top

#17 Some idiots though.

Hey, I resemble that remark! By the way, does this Russian sock puppet pay well? (asking for one of me droogs)
Posted by SteveS 2022-02-07 18:45||   2022-02-07 18:45|| Front Page Top

#18 ^ ocean horrorshow, me droog! As an unmuddied lake, Fred. As clear as an azure sky of deepest summer. You can rely on me, Fred.
Posted by Merrick Ferret 2022-02-07 19:06||   2022-02-07 19:06|| Front Page Top

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