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2021-12-23 -Short Attention Span Theater-

The Failed Presidency of Franklin Roosevelt

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Posted by badanov 2021-12-23 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11125 views ] Top

#1 ^ Bullshit.

Posted by Blackbeard Barnsmell6454 2021-12-23 00:12|| 2021-12-23 00:12|| Front Page Top

#2 The nation was in the Great Depression. People were suffering. FDR put the economy as priority over the military. The factories, industries, infrastructure that resulted provided the military hardware needed in WWII. If the military had been prioritized instead of the he ravaged economy, the military would not have the industrial might that won a two front WWII.

Posted by Blackbeard Barnsmell6454 2021-12-23 00:17|| 2021-12-23 00:17|| Front Page Top

#3 My comment at #1 of exasperation wasn't for Badanov but for the author Francis Senpa. My father and his brothers sisters and parents suffered the Great Depression. They credit FDR for restoring the economy and my father and his brothers fought and were all wounded on both WWII fronts.

They are all gone now and I HATE what these revisionists are doing to their legacy.

Posted by Blackbeard Barnsmell6454 2021-12-23 00:26|| 2021-12-23 00:26|| Front Page Top

#4 The economic policies pursued by Roosevelt were advertised as "pulling the country out of the depression" but it is not at all clear that they did not have the opposite effect, though I am sure that the intent was to help the economy.
The problemis that government interventions to help usually do have the opposite effect.

What used to happen in the 19th century, when there was a recession, was that industries , which had debt, which was most of them, went bankrupt That means the owners lost all their investment,. But the lucky onews who bought the businebankrupt business es had all the assets, without the debts, so that could quickly restart the businesses with a much better chance at success than the predecessors ha.
The old owners still had their brains and experience, and also could quickly recover using them.
FDR's interventions prevented this natural process and so led to eight years of suffering rather than one. His predecessor was no better and started in the wrong direction.
Roosevelt followed along the same stupid track.

Posted by Goober Choluque6459! 2021-12-23 01:12|| 2021-12-23 01:12|| Front Page Top

#5 ^ NOT TRUE.

FDR built industries, factories, schools which gave the workers hard cold cash. That cash was spent on the economy. It is called stimulus that time and again presidents still do when the economy starts sinking.

I went to school in buildings built by FDR's New Deal. Quality buildings that would not have been there without FDR.

Posted by Blackbeard Barnsmell6454 2021-12-23 01:23|| 2021-12-23 01:23|| Front Page Top

#6 FDR made the U.S. a Super Power.

Posted by Blackbeard Barnsmell6454 2021-12-23 01:43|| 2021-12-23 01:43|| Front Page Top

#7 I see the left, aided by "revisionist history" is now comparing the Biden presidency to that of FDR. An attack on Guam, Pearl Harbor, or Taiwan should further validate the comparison.

Had he not died in office, FDR would still be president today. The left hates term limits. I give you Biden-Obama as an example.

Read Amity Shales. She nails it.

Posted by Besoeker 2021-12-23 02:15|| 2021-12-23 02:15|| Front Page Top

#8 An MIT economist and numerous journalists call Amity Shales book misleading and inaccurate.

Posted by Blackbeard Barnsmell6454 2021-12-23 02:31|| 2021-12-23 02:31|| Front Page Top

#9 I suggest Mr. Barnsmell read some books by Sean McMeekin. his history of the relationship between FDR and Stalin is most instructional. His meticulous researched facts reveals a pattern of behavior favoring, and submitting to Stalin's unreasonable demands.
Read "'Stalin's War". Jaw-dropping revelations based on new research.

Posted by Sgt.D.T. 2021-12-23 02:33|| 2021-12-23 02:33|| Front Page Top

#10 Stalin and FDR worked together to defeat Hitler. Stalin was a critical ally in WWII.

Posted by Blackbeard Barnsmell6454 2021-12-23 02:41|| 2021-12-23 02:41|| Front Page Top

#11 ...and FDR could give concessions because he started something that would give the U.S. superiority over Stalin and the rest of the world in short order called the Manhattan Project...

Posted by Blackbeard Barnsmell6454 2021-12-23 02:54|| 2021-12-23 02:54|| Front Page Top

#12 FDR's Manhatten Project saved an estimated 1 million lives because the Atomic Bombs eliminated the need for a conventional invasion of mainland Japan.

Posted by Blackbeard Barnsmell6454 2021-12-23 03:04|| 2021-12-23 03:04|| Front Page Top

#13 FDR kicked off the big Government Ponzi scheme called Social Security. It was obviously unconstitutional but later sold to Supreme Court as a tax with no earmark to any specific program.
FDR did throw Japanese Americans into internment camps; luckily, that big GIVERnment program did not catch on as did Social Security.

He did rid the world of The Axis powers so it was not all bad for FDR.

Posted by Airandee 2021-12-23 06:24|| 2021-12-23 06:24|| Front Page Top

#14 ~~Social Security.~~ Obamacare It was obviously unconstitutional but later sold to Supreme Court as a tax with no earmark to any specific program.

FDR the Father of US Communism

Posted by Sheba Sholuper1566 2021-12-23 07:03|| 2021-12-23 07:03|| Front Page Top

#15 But an even greater failure of FDR’s administration in the 1930s was the nation’s lack of preparedness for the Second World War.

No that was the American people in general. They wanted no part of foreign wars. It's a long tradition. Many believed we got burned by the results of WW1. The Senate refused to ratify the Versailles Treaty (instead they retracted the declaration of war).

PS I would never use Mac as a 'expert' given his record of handling of the Philippines defense at the same time.

Posted by Procopius2k 2021-12-23 07:22|| 2021-12-23 07:22|| Front Page Top

#16 "The one thing we learn from history is that we do not learn from history."
~ G.W.F. Hegel

Posted by Besoeker 2021-12-23 07:26|| 2021-12-23 07:26|| Front Page Top

#17 a pattern of behavior favoring, and submitting to Stalin's unreasonable demands.

See the POST.

"The one thing we learn from history is that we do not learn from history."

Posted by Skidmark 2021-12-23 08:45|| 2021-12-23 08:45|| Front Page Top

#18 Imagine a life without Social Security and a Great Depression. S.S. has worked well for 90 years now

Posted by Blackbeard Barnsmell6454 2021-12-23 09:02|| 2021-12-23 09:02|| Front Page Top

#19 ..you mean needing productive civilized kids to take care of you in your old age?

Posted by Procopius2k 2021-12-23 10:39|| 2021-12-23 10:39|| Front Page Top

#20 S.S. has worked well for 90 years now
Ponzi Scams "work well" until they don't...

Posted by magpie 2021-12-23 12:00|| 2021-12-23 12:00|| Front Page Top

#21

Ponzi Scams "work well" until they don't..

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Advanced civilizations "work well" until they don't...

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