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2021-12-19 Home Front: WoT

The US is revising its approach to the MiddleEast, having concluded that transforming the region through nation-building or regime change is no longer viable

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Posted by trailing wife 2021-12-19 00:00|| || Front Page|| [9 views ] Top

#1 Who'da thunk it?

Posted by Merrick Ferret 2021-12-19 01:25|| 2021-12-19 01:25|| Front Page Top

#2 Never was "viable." How about a not too clever ruse to cover the administration's pull-back of Israeli support.

Posted by Besoeker 2021-12-19 02:27|| 2021-12-19 02:27|| Front Page Top

#3 If you put a drop of wine in a barrel of sewage, you get sewage.
If you put a drop of sewage in a barrel of wine, you get... Sewage.

(And no, this is no way a rap on Israel or her citizens. It is a rap on US policy in the ME since the end of WW II at least.)

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-12-19 02:42|| 2021-12-19 02:42|| Front Page Top

#4 And it only took the US State Dept 20 YEARS to figure out it is NOT Government. It is Butchery and Terrorism that will win and control the minds of those seeking some form of basic stability.

Posted by NN2N1 2021-12-19 07:44|| 2021-12-19 07:44|| Front Page Top

#5 And it only took the US State Dept 20 YEARS

No learning from Vietnam, Korea, Kosovo, Nicaragua?

How odd.

Posted by Skidmark 2021-12-19 10:41|| 2021-12-19 10:41|| Front Page Top

#6 If you put a drop of

Needed a little Jesus.

Posted by Skidmark 2021-12-19 10:44|| 2021-12-19 10:44|| Front Page Top

#7 Why is Israel support important? We should spend the money on ourselves instead. Israel already gets the most aid from the US for some baffling reason(minus Afghanistan) but it's actually much worse than this. After we consider the intelligence, weapons sharing etc. The value of US foreign aid to Israel is definitely far greater than any other country. Also when Israel gets military secrets, assets, or tech from the US they often then just turn around and sell them to China

. Some thanks we get!

Posted by Clulet Splat5443 2021-12-19 11:57|| 2021-12-19 11:57|| Front Page Top

#8 Nations aren't "built" anymore than rivers or mountains are. They evolve naturally, out of families, tribes, clans, a faith, shared memories of struggle and triumph against common enemies.

It was insane to even imagine that an American Proconsul in a suit & boots could create a modern democracy out of a tribal shithole just by dispensing billions of greenbacks from the Green Zone. We couldn't even keep the lights on or pick up the garbage -- let alone take out the Sadrist and other garbage.

Let's hope 2022 marks the end of the Globo-Hubris Era

Posted by Merrick Ferret 2021-12-19 12:03|| 2021-12-19 12:03|| Front Page Top

#9 Israel is uniquely positioned in the world today. They are probably our best military coordination channel to Russia. And the only state in the ME not mind-poisoned by muzzizm. There are other good reasons to back them, but the two I mentioned are all you really need...

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-12-19 12:03|| 2021-12-19 12:03|| Front Page Top

#10 ^ Also extra valuable for their intel. Without it we'd be flying blind, 100% blind, in the ME

Posted by Merrick Ferret 2021-12-19 12:07|| 2021-12-19 12:07|| Front Page Top

#11 Israel spends an awful lot of what we “give” them to buy American equipment that’s reached the beta testing stage of development, then do the debugging for us for free. Remember the unflyable F-35s that they took a year or so to make flyable?

Or they take the basic thing and develop specialized packages that the DoD happily buys rather than spend American time developing.

Posted by trailing wife 2021-12-19 14:19|| 2021-12-19 14:19|| Front Page Top

#12 I expect if there were no coordination/intel sharing/arms supplying/etc. (as noted in #9, 10, 11) with Israel, "Cluet Splat" would find some other reason to denounce the Juice :-)

Posted by Frank G 2021-12-19 15:11|| 2021-12-19 15:11|| Front Page Top

#13 If we didn't screw with everybody in the ME, we wouldn't need to pay through the nose for Israel's help screwing with everybody in the ME.

Posted by Clulet Splat5443 2021-12-19 16:19|| 2021-12-19 16:19|| Front Page Top

#14 Muzzworld self-screws 24/7. We need Israel to keep a lid on it.

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-12-19 16:43|| 2021-12-19 16:43|| Front Page Top

#15 Israel is uniquely positioned in the world today.

Hoot if ah'm wrong.
From the memory hole: Creation of Israel, 1948

A conflict at the end of the British colonial period and the engagement of the US with the successor of the League of Nations led to the need for a demonstration of the power of a ruling world congress.

Posted by Skidmark 2021-12-19 17:43|| 2021-12-19 17:43|| Front Page Top

#16 Anyone who gets a tummy ache the moment Israel is mentioned has a problem.

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-12-19 17:59|| 2021-12-19 17:59|| Front Page Top

#17 Off the pile from this AM...

Cries Herbie, "Moar greenery, please,
But for poor baby Jesus a freeze,
So Muslims can rush
Into fruitful discussions.
A free Middle East!
Peaceful Arabs will feast
All day long on... authentic Chinese!"

Christmas Wishes (Dishes and Dishes!)?

Posted by George Unolugum2040 2021-12-19 18:37|| 2021-12-19 18:37|| Front Page Top

#18 1. Conjunctions without Compunctions
2. My old FF keyboard setup
3. Pony

Posted by George Unolugum2040 2021-12-19 18:40|| 2021-12-19 18:40|| Front Page Top

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