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2021-08-28 -Great Cultural Revolution
Active Duty, Retired Naval Intelligence Members Told They Cannot ‘Disrespect' Biden Over Afghanistan Debacle
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Posted by Matt 2021-08-28 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ]  Top
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#1 As Insty noted yesterday, they sure didn't follow such an ideal when Trump was President.
Posted by Raj 2021-08-28 00:16||   2021-08-28 00:16|| Front Page Top

#2 Quite to the contrary. They are sworn ultimately to defend the US Constitution. Not to you, your fraudulent dear leader who they will soon remove from office, and you arseholes.
Posted by Blackbeard Barnsmell6454 2021-08-28 01:06||   2021-08-28 01:06|| Front Page Top

#3 They're not allowed to.
Posted by badanov 2021-08-28 01:17||   2021-08-28 01:17|| Front Page Top

#4 Really like to keep the lid on. Don't dig around and discover the dead and injured may have been victims of Taliban small arms fire as opposed to a suicide vest.
Posted by Besoeker 2021-08-28 01:53||   2021-08-28 01:53|| Front Page Top

#5 An attempt to suppress the truth
whistle blower protection status from Hillary's henchman
Posted by boomerc 2021-08-28 03:09||   2021-08-28 03:09|| Front Page Top

#6 'We messed this up': Marine Lt. Colonel is relieved of duties after posting furious video slamming 'seniors leaders' at the Pentagon who 'let down' the 13 US troops killed in Kabul suicide bombing
Posted by Skidmark 2021-08-28 09:44||   2021-08-28 09:44|| Front Page Top

#7 Department of Defense Directive 1344.10

This is the cited basis for the assertion that RETIREEs cannot be critical. I'm not a lawyer, but it seems that unless I'm recalled to active duty in some federal status, or make an assertion that implies my retired status somehow is connected to official authority to speak for DoD, I'm immune from this directive. This seems to be an attempt by inference to silence people like me who hold a deeply adversarial attitude towards the current administration. Thoughts my friends?
Posted by NoMoreBS 2021-08-28 13:01||   2021-08-28 13:01|| Front Page Top

#8 ..Retired Naval Intelligence Members Told They Cannot ‘Disrespect'..


What about those 700 former senior military and intelligence officials and their penned denunciation of Trump last year? One set of rules for me and another set for thee. Shut up cause that is different?
Posted by Procopius2k 2021-08-28 13:03||   2021-08-28 13:03|| Front Page Top

#9 For #7 - Agree
Please Point Me Toward the Pentagon
Posted by Thumper Flosh4732 2021-08-28 13:30||   2021-08-28 13:30|| Front Page Top

#10 Shut up cause that's different?

Of course. 'Cause Trump. He's to blame.
And white supremacy
Posted by Waldemar Creretle6465 2021-08-28 14:26||   2021-08-28 14:26|| Front Page Top

#11 Disrespect Bogus Potus? Respect is earned.
Posted by JohnQC 2021-08-28 15:54||   2021-08-28 15:54|| Front Page Top

#12 ^7 -

NoMoreBS,

For decades the law was considered by the Government to mean exactly that- 'retired' status is legally accepted as reduced duty for reduced pay and therefore one can still be brought back for court-martial. It is rare, and used as more of a cudgel than anything else (One of the things that got David Petraeus to finally give in on his charges was that the Army was dropping hints they'd bring him back to court martial him for his indiscretions).

However, last year the United States District Court for the District of Columbia ruled in Larabee v. Braithwaite that:

"...Congress’s grant of court-martial jurisdiction over military retirees in the Fleet Marine Corps Reserve for offenses committed after their retirement is unconstitutional. While the Court did not explicitly determine that court-martial jurisdiction over all military retirees is per se unconstitutional, the practical reach of the Court’s decision is likely to significantly curtail such jurisdiction over retirees for crimes committed after their retirement from active-duty service."

The article I linked to is blessedly straightforward and comprehensible. The bottom line is that the ONI COS doesn't have the faintest goddamned idea what he's talking about, or worse, he does and is hoping nobody else does. And were it to come down to brass tacks, I can't imagine a court in the land tolerating a recall for a GCM when it involves a First Amendment issue.

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2021-08-28 16:00||   2021-08-28 16:00|| Front Page Top

#13 ^ #12 OK, I'm impressed.
Posted by Matt 2021-08-28 16:16||   2021-08-28 16:16|| Front Page Top

#14 /\ And were it to come down to brass tacks, I can't imagine a court in the land tolerating a recall for a GCM when it involves a First Amendment issue.

Nor can I.

Posted by Besoeker 2021-08-28 16:44||   2021-08-28 16:44|| Front Page Top

#15 I can. Hawaiian judge. 9th Circus Court. The punishment is a tax, and *BLAM*, Chief Justice Bob's your uncle!
Posted by SteveS 2021-08-28 16:52||   2021-08-28 16:52|| Front Page Top

#16 Many thanks, I appreciate it!
Posted by NoMoreBS 2021-08-28 18:05||   2021-08-28 18:05|| Front Page Top

#17 As was pointed out elsewhere, compare and contrast with how Vindman was treated.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-28 18:14||   2021-08-28 18:14|| Front Page Top

#18 Well, they did get rid of the Lt. Colonel of the Marines who made a video degrading the leadership. Guess the missed a few during the Obama purge.
Posted by Chris 2021-08-28 18:22||   2021-08-28 18:22|| Front Page Top

#19 Just because they allowed it against Trump doesn’t make it right now. The guy said what had to be said and new the risks and I support him but he should expect to be fired publicly embarrassing your leaders that way. I hope he gets a well paid gig on Fox or something though.
Posted by Ruprecht 2021-08-28 21:31||   2021-08-28 21:31|| Front Page Top

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