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2021-08-22 Home Front: Politix

Afghanistan Proves Our Failed Generals No Longer Care About Winning

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Posted by Elmerert Hupens2660 2021-08-22 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ] Top
File under: Taliban/IEA

Generals.... Then and Now..

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'Nuff Said.

Posted by CrazyFool 2021-08-22 01:25|| 2021-08-22 01:25|| Front Page Top

#2 Largely thanks to the CIA and special forces, the punitive expedition against the launching pad of 9/11 was swiftly completed, the primitive Taliban scattered, and an example made.

Oh thank you Klingons and Klingon funded SOF handmaidens.

Absolute, total bullshi* scapegoat article, likely penned in McLean, VA. The military can ONLY do what the feckless bureaucrats in the White House, Foggy Bottom, and McLean permit them to do. US generals a cadre of WOKE 'yes men?' Well of course they are, that's what Washington has cultivated and promoted for decades.

Posted by Besoeker 2021-08-22 01:50|| 2021-08-22 01:50|| Front Page Top

#3 Some say China’s Xi Jinping is about to take Taiwan while we have such weak President and military leaders. I say China’s Xi Jinping is about to take Taiwan AND a couple of US Territories in the Pacific to put a stretegic buffer between the US and China.

Posted by Blackbeard Barnsmell6454 2021-08-22 02:03|| 2021-08-22 02:03|| Front Page Top

#4 /\ If Xi fails to move on Taiwan or other Pacific targets, he's missed a strategic opportunity.

Posted by Besoeker 2021-08-22 02:08|| 2021-08-22 02:08|| Front Page Top

#5 ^ Exactly. May also be why VP Harris is headed that way in the next few days.

Posted by Blackbeard Barnsmell6454 2021-08-22 02:11|| 2021-08-22 02:11|| Front Page Top

#6 My last comment was to support Besoeker's comment. Commenter above saying China has no amphibious capabilities see China's ZBD-05 and ZTD-05 beach assault ships. Only low IQ cockroaches like you use name calling (nutbaggery???) because you are clearly too stupid to do your home work and has to spew rude insults to other commenters.

Posted by Blackbeard Barnsmell6454 2021-08-22 02:21|| 2021-08-22 02:21|| Front Page Top

#7 Those are both light tanks. They're going to swim all the way across the Taiwan Strait? By themselves?

They need thousands of amphibious landing craft which they do not possess. How are they going to invade?

Taiwan's landing beaches are obvious to everyone and are well-defended for decades.

Posted by Blinky Pholuling8616 2021-08-22 06:25|| 2021-08-22 06:25|| Front Page Top

#8 CF that picture shows the progression from ribbons with meaning to ribbons as a display of one's personnel file, where the wearer has been, how many tours, and events they were around for. In the old days, General Officers(GO) could choose their own uniforms and select which earned ribbons they displayed.

Eisenhower was a Lieutenant Colonel in 1936. He was promoted in the then peacetime system. When the Army expanded just before WW2 the peacetime promotion system was set aside and people were 'temporarily' promoted. They carried a Regular Army rank and a Army of the United States rank, a dual system which reverts back when demobilization happens. Those 'temporary' promotions did revert to many in the demobilization.

That get us back to the 'cultural' problem in the service. Our group today is the protect of a peacetime promotion system, block checking careerism. It is suppose to be the next best thing to try to identify leaders for time of war. However, when you are in a war, that should determine promotions and rank. However, they never switched back to wartime over 20 years ago. They kept the same old bureaucratic system with the most frequent excuse being what today we refer to as 'equity'. War is not fair. War is not equitable. The actual leaders we needed were the ones who delivered on the battlefield. Well, everyone doesn't get a chance at command. War doesn't care.

It's compounded by the size of the service and the GO corps. They didn't have to kick people up the ranks quickly because they had enough sitting around. Check the ratio of GOs to troops in WW2 and the ratio today. Talk about mission creep, we have had rank creep for decades.

One of the more influential work in the Vietnam lessons learned examination was On Strategy by Colonel Harry Summers. He makes the point that during the entire war not a single GO resigned/retired in protest on the conduct of the war. We're back to square one.

As late as the 80s, the Chief of Staff of the Army was selected by the White House which had a habit of picking officers who came from OCS or ROTC and not West Point. 'Ring Tappers' were usually favored over others for most of the high level GO billets, but the ultimate one was often not open.

Posted by Procopius2k 2021-08-22 07:52|| 2021-08-22 07:52|| Front Page Top

#9 ^ More low IQ spital. Assault ships launch amphibious craft. Your complete and total ignorance is on full display, loser.

Posted by Blackbeard Barnsmell6454 2021-08-22 07:54|| 2021-08-22 07:54|| Front Page Top

#10 ^ The above comment was for #7. #8 posted as I was responding to #7.

Posted by Blackbeard Barnsmell6454 2021-08-22 07:57|| 2021-08-22 07:57|| Front Page Top

#11 Excellent assessment at #8. Far too many "been there" badges. The British Army system of awards and decoration is urgently needed.

Posted by Besoeker 2021-08-22 08:45|| 2021-08-22 08:45|| Front Page Top

#12 I'm waiting to see the new 'Woke' and 'Inclusion' ribbon designs.

Posted by Mullah Richard 2021-08-22 10:14|| 2021-08-22 10:14|| Front Page Top

#13 /\ Any chance they can be awarded retroactively to retirees? Will I have to write my own DA Form 638 ?

Posted by Besoeker 2021-08-22 10:18|| 2021-08-22 10:18|| Front Page Top

#14 But no 'Putting up with Woke Bullshit' ribbon?

Posted by CrazyFool 2021-08-22 10:51|| 2021-08-22 10:51|| Front Page Top

#15 I have mentioned this before:
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/sukhomlinov-effect.htm

The Sukhomlinov syndrome speaks of the need for increasing display of successes/prowess/experience as a symptom of those who need display to assuage professional self doubt.

Posted by NoMoreBS 2021-08-22 13:05|| 2021-08-22 13:05|| Front Page Top

#16 My favorite story about Colonel Harry Summers was that he reportedly was at the negotiating table during the negotiations with Giap and the North Vietnamese. During a break he was reported to have said to Giap directly, something to the effect of "You know, you never once defeated us in any major battle or campaign", to which Giap reportedly replied "That is true, it is also irrelevant..."

Posted by NoMoreBS 2021-08-22 13:10|| 2021-08-22 13:10|| Front Page Top

#17 NATO considered a 'courageous restraint' award for, well, not doing anything. so there's that

Posted by Retard Strength 2021-08-22 14:09|| 2021-08-22 14:09|| Front Page Top

#18 Commanded by the offspring of Vietnam, dare I say Korean limpdck generals. What a surprise.

That the the corrupt military industrial complex. Spit.

Federal bribery proving term limits might be the only fix.

Posted by Woodrow 2021-08-22 19:35|| 2021-08-22 19:35|| Front Page Top

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