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Posted by Besoeker 2021-06-27 07:23|| || Front Page|| [14 views ] Top

"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist."

- Excerpt from Dwight D. Eisenhower's final speech to the nation.

Posted by Besoeker 2021-06-27 07:45|| 2021-06-27 07:45|| Front Page Top

#2 If the U.S. military had not invaded Iraq in 2003,

If Saddam had only followed the 'letter of the law' cease fire agreement that ended the fighting in 1991, then his followers (rebranded ISIS) would have not continued the fight.

Interesting if places like Portland and Seattle and Minneapolis had enforced the law and not tolerated anarchy, would they be in the position they are today.

Small scale, large scale. It's all human behavior.

If you want the 'what if' games -

The US had not taken the Spanish claims on the Philippines in the Treaty of Paris ending the Spanish American War would we have been involved in WWII? No reason for the Japanese to remove their perceived threat to their claim on the material wealth and access to the Dutch colonial East Indies.

Posted by Procopius2k 2021-06-27 07:57|| 2021-06-27 07:57|| Front Page Top

#3 It's all human behavior.

Concur. And the con is who influences this behavior.

In this case con = proxy wars. My experience with the ongoing middle east fiasco(s) is that we are involved in a series of proxy wars that our unwitting politicians and strategists never quite understand ... or maybe they are witting accomplices...

Lets play the game...
-Gulf War I - the US could clearly be considered a proxy for Israel
-Afghanistan - the land of proxy war...an initial raid to eliminate or reduce OBL ended with us embroiled in a series of proxy wars as a spectator (Pakistan v. Afghanistan) and proxy war engaged against us by China and Iran...and US forces bled by large criminal enterprises with Taliban front groups.
-Iraq v.2 - perhaps led into this mess by Israel intel to reduce Saddam once again in what was supposed to be a large scale raid...then Bush the younger idiot was influenced to stay in Iraq and nation build based on what he saw on CNN...and we ended up in a huge proxy war between Sunni and Shia...

The arrogant American believes that we are the primary target in Iraq/AF...in most cases we were just in the way...they will fight their proxy wars no matter who inhabits those base camps.

Posted by Tennessee 2021-06-27 10:06|| 2021-06-27 10:06|| Front Page Top

#4 /\ ......they will fight their proxy wars no matter who inhabits those base camps.

All the more reason to simply stand back and observe. If a LEGITIMATE THREAT to our national securty evolves, say nothing and kill every damn one of them. Return home, and continue to say nothing.

Posted by Besoeker 2021-06-27 10:15|| 2021-06-27 10:15|| Front Page Top

#5 The 1991 Gulf War was caused by military invasion and annexation of a territory by another country.

Apparently this is OK when some countries do it, but not others. Weird.

Posted by Jiggs Trotsky5854 2021-06-27 20:10|| 2021-06-27 20:10|| Front Page Top

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