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2021-03-16 -Great Cultural Revolution

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Posted by Beavis 2021-03-16 00:04|| || Front Page|| [11132 views ] Top

Posted by Fearing Squat5199 2021-03-16 03:28|| 2021-03-16 03:28|| Front Page Top

#2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCkyWBPaTC8

Posted by BernardZ 2021-03-16 06:50|| 2021-03-16 06:50|| Front Page Top

#3 Arguing whether Nazism is a "right-wing" or "left-wing" project with people who believe murder of innocents (abortion) is "choice" or self-defense (killing someone who is trying to kill you) is race hatred driven murder is a fool's errand.

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-03-16 07:16|| 2021-03-16 07:16|| Front Page Top

#4 Fascism was "right wing" only if the center of your political spectrum is Stalin.

Posted by Rob Crawford 2021-03-16 08:29|| 2021-03-16 08:29|| Front Page Top

#5 I've never seen a right wing group that would put Socialist in their name.

Posted by rjschwarz 2021-03-16 10:23|| 2021-03-16 10:23|| Front Page Top

#6 Any 'isms that promote concentration and centralization of power and believe the proles exist for the policies of those who run the state are of the Left. It's like an athletic league, different color outfits all playing the same game.

Posted by Procopius2k 2021-03-16 10:30|| 2021-03-16 10:30|| Front Page Top

#7 /\ It's like an athletic league, different color outfits all playing the same game.

....same post-game assembly at the neighborhood pub. It was only a game. Tomorrow you may win.

Posted by Besoeker 2021-03-16 10:47|| 2021-03-16 10:47|| Front Page Top

#8 Seems to me there are basically two kinds of 'isms' that cover human interactions: Individualism and Collectivism. The latter includes socialism, national socialism, communism, fascism, and almost all centralized government.

Posted by Glenmore 2021-03-16 11:52|| 2021-03-16 11:52|| Front Page Top

#9 Don't forget totalitarianism. Big government, no freedom. I think it's safe to say that Nazism and Communism both come under that umbrella. And when they take your money with their taxes, that's the same as taking your freedom.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2021-03-16 12:30|| 2021-03-16 12:30|| Front Page Top

#10 Nazism and communism grew from the same soil: the late-19c European dissatisfaction with and rejection of classical "liberalism" i.e. competition and free markets applied to politics, economics and ideas.

That rejection came from Marx on the left and from philosophers and cultural thinkers such as Nietzsche, Lagarde and DeMaistre on the right. All of them opposed to the atomizing effects of liberal capitalism, i.e. how it reduced communities into rootless, self-seeking individuals motivated only by "utility."

Lots of parallels with our own era's conflicts between liberal one-world globalists and populists of both left and right.

Posted by Elmatle Elmilet7658 2021-03-16 12:42|| 2021-03-16 12:42|| Front Page Top

#11 /\ Instructive to remember Hitler and Stalin started out as allies (Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact).

Posted by Besoeker 2021-03-16 12:47|| 2021-03-16 12:47|| Front Page Top

#12 ^Allies of convenience because they certainly didn't dig each other before Ribb/Molo pact.

Posted by Unosh Hupinelet8756 2021-03-16 12:52|| 2021-03-16 12:52|| Front Page Top

#13 Hitler was as racist toward Slavs as he was toward Jews. Racism and nationalism were big differences between Hitler's Nazi party and Stalin's Communist party. That could be why so many of today's liberals call Trump supporters Nazis. They call you a racist if you want a secure border. They call you a racist or a Nazi if you disagree with them about anything. It has nothing to do with economics. It's not a valid argument. It's a crutch for crippled minds.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2021-03-16 13:17|| 2021-03-16 13:17|| Front Page Top

#14 Soviet Communists under Stalin were also ethnic-nationalists. They were as hostile to the Poles as the Germans were.

Posted by Angairt Thager4678 2021-03-16 13:38|| 2021-03-16 13:38|| Front Page Top

#15 Before his timely death in 1953, Stalin had plans to make Russia Judenfrei.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-03-16 13:46|| 2021-03-16 13:46|| Front Page Top

#16 Whatever side one puts these totalitarians (Nazi and Socialist), they are both freedom-squelching.

Posted by JohnQC 2021-03-16 14:52|| 2021-03-16 14:52|| Front Page Top

#17 The Left calls everyone Nazis because it is just about the only universally accepted metaphor for evil. They call everyone racists because they are, in fact, racists and it's less of a stigma when everyone else is racist too.

Posted by Angstrom 2021-03-16 15:59|| 2021-03-16 15:59|| Front Page Top

#18 Trump had to be destroyed because he was the first national politician to put together a serious populist alliance of working- and middle-class voters from all demographics (except the overeducated).

What shocked the globalists was not his manners but his pull. He attracted people who voted twice for Obama. He attracted Bernie Bros. Thanks to his administration's stunning economic success, Trump started to pull large numbers of blacks and Latinos away from the Democrats.

If not for media suppression, Pfizer's delay of the stunning good news of its vaccine trial results, voter intimidation and outright fraud, Trump would have won going away.

Trump was on track to effect the biggest realignment in American politics since 1932. He was a nuclear warhead aimed at the elites of both parties. Trump had to be taken down, by all available means, if the old order was to be preserved.

Posted by Marilyn Turkeyneck8607 2021-03-16 16:11|| 2021-03-16 16:11|| Front Page Top

#19 "Allies of convenience because they certainly didn't dig each other before Ribb/Molo pact. "

The Comintern was "anti-war" (pro-Hitler) globally until Hitler invaded the USSR. For disliking each other, they had each other's backs.

Posted by Rob Crawford 2021-03-16 20:05|| 2021-03-16 20:05|| Front Page Top

#20 @ #14 - Indeed, and I should think the skirmish ca. 1919-1920 between Pilsudski's Poland and the young Soviet Union surely didn't help.

Posted by Clem 2021-03-16 21:00|| 2021-03-16 21:00|| Front Page Top

#21 Before the first world war, there was the Socialist International, which included all kinds of Socialists, of many different varieties and many different countries.
It was against participation in WWI, which caused splits in most countries between patriots and pacifists among the socialists.
Mussolini, for example was the editor of the mainSocialist journal in Italy but broke with the International when he supported Italy joining Britain and France in the was, against the Central Powers of German and Austria-Hungary.
After WWI the 'Majority' or Bolsheviks of the Social Internation became the Communist Party.
To many Europeans Socialism is by definition good, capitalism bad, and the distinction between right and left is that between nationalist and internationalist.
However both Fascists and Communists believed in complete government control of the economy, and control of the government by a small elite group, either the Grand Council of Fascism, or the Central Committee of the Communist Party.
Politics actually looks more like a circle than a straight line. One one end is human freedom, and the other complete government control, and the European concept of left and right are almost indistinguishable on the totalitarian side of that ring.
In America we tend to draw a different straight line from the European one, and consider one end to be totalitarian government control, and the other to be complete human freedom. Capitalism is nearer the opposite end to Communism or Fascism.
Unfortunately, our Democrats sound more and more like Fascists these days, than like democrats or republicans or believers in human freedom..

Posted by daniel 2021-03-16 21:12|| 2021-03-16 21:12|| Front Page Top

#22 Well summarized, daniel.

Posted by trailing wife 2021-03-16 21:41|| 2021-03-16 21:41|| Front Page Top

#23 I believe #21 captured it.

Posted by Besoeker 2021-03-16 22:06|| 2021-03-16 22:06|| Front Page Top

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