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2020-11-01 -PC Follies

Wisconsin students vote to remove ''racist'' Lincoln statue

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Posted by Fred 2020-11-01 00:00|| || Front Page|| [16 views ] Top

#1 I would take a flame thrower to that place

Posted by newc 2020-11-01 00:10|| 2020-11-01 00:10|| Front Page Top

#2 ^No need. Just force them to, you know, actually study.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-11-01 04:24|| 2020-11-01 04:24|| Front Page Top

#3 I'm not sure they get a lot of attention, and that probably rankles. So they say insane things.

True, I haven't looked at the student newspapers in some years (one was heavily left of center, the other straight-up marxist), but I doubt things have changed much.

Posted by James 2020-11-01 09:23|| https://idontknowbut.blogspot.com 2020-11-01 09:23|| Front Page Top

#4 FWIW, there was a bit of a movement against the federal government's Fugitive Slave Act in Wisconsin back in the day.

Posted by Clem 2020-11-01 11:18|| 2020-11-01 11:18|| Front Page Top

#5 The students declared that the president who signed the Emancipation Proclamation, advocated for the 13th Amendment,

Clearly, we need to junk those as well.

and led the war against the South and slavery was "not pro-Black"

Thanks for demonstrating the rewards to people who try to do something for black people.

Namely, to be shat on by future generations for failing to perfectly meet the ever shifting standards of the Great Now.

Perhaps White people who are importuned to help blacks might look at all of this and draw a lesson?

Nah.

Posted by charger 2020-11-01 11:34|| 2020-11-01 11:34|| Front Page Top

#6 Lincoln did not attack the South because of slavery or to "free the slaves". That is the nonsense that is forced down our throats in government schools, or at least a big part of it.

Posted by Clem 2020-11-01 11:40|| 2020-11-01 11:40|| Front Page Top

#7 Lincoln did not attack the South, it was the other way around.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-11-01 12:23|| 2020-11-01 12:23|| Front Page Top

#8 The "North" had it coming. And Lincoln was our first dictator who would have hung at Nürnberg.

Posted by Clem 2020-11-01 12:47|| 2020-11-01 12:47|| Front Page Top

#9 There goes Clem. The 13th Amendment says it all. Period. Wring your hands all you want.

Buried in the history books, is that the state of Kentucky declared its neutrality in the matter. That wasn't good enough for the Confederacy. Playing the victim is so late 20th and early 21st Century.

Posted by Procopius2k 2020-11-01 13:25|| 2020-11-01 13:25|| Front Page Top

#10 Wisconsin, Lincoln? Racists, of course.

Almost as bad as those evil racist Californians - two-thirds of whom are foreign-born or descended from Asians or Latin Americans or other third-world nations - who, the California governor now says, need to pay reparations for slavery.

Which never existed anywhere close to California.

Posted by Bob Smiter of the Visigoths7396 2020-11-01 15:51|| 2020-11-01 15:51|| Front Page Top

#11 Wisconsins students who voted to remove Lincoln should be expelled and the university should admit it's mistake in allowing them in.

Posted by rjschwarz 2020-11-01 17:03|| 2020-11-01 17:03|| Front Page Top

#12 Expel 'em AND keep their tuition dough.

Posted by Clem 2020-11-01 17:07|| 2020-11-01 17:07|| Front Page Top

#13 These students are in need of reeducation. 5 years on collective farms should allow them to graduate.

Posted by Thrairong Ebbusomp4597 2020-11-01 17:32|| 2020-11-01 17:32|| Front Page Top

#14 Civil War was not started over slavery. "My policy sought only to collect the Revenue (a 40 percent federal sales tax on imports to Southern States under the Morrill Tariff Act of 1861)." reads paragraph 5 of Lincoln's First Message to the U.S. Congress, penned July 4, 1861.
"I have no purpose, directly or in-directly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so," Lincoln said it his first inaugural on March 4 of the same year.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2020-11-01 17:34|| 2020-11-01 17:34|| Front Page Top

#15 Didn't the Confederate states withdrew from the Union because they felt Lincoln was going to end Slavery? If so I'm not sure it matters what Lincoln actually thought. The Confederate States wanted to protect states rights, specifically the right to own slaves.

Posted by rjschwarz 2020-11-01 17:55|| 2020-11-01 17:55|| Front Page Top

#16 rjschwarz no. The Republican platform included the 40% tariff which would have bankrupted many Southerners. They also didn't like that they were paying 80% of the money going to government coffers while receiving only a pittance in return. When someone told Lincoln that maybe they should let the South go he said, "Let the South go! My god, man, who would pay our tariffs?" The primary reason was money.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2020-11-01 18:12|| 2020-11-01 18:12|| Front Page Top

#17 Lincoln did not claim slavery was a reason even in his Emancipation Proclamations on Sept. 22, 1862, and Jan. 1, 1863. Moreover, Lincoln's proclamations exempted a million slaves under his control from being freed (including General U.S. Grant's slave) and offered the South three months to return to the Union (pay 40 percent sales tax) and keep their slaves. None did. Lincoln affirmed his only reason for issuing was: "as a fit and necessary war measure for suppressing said (tax) rebellion."

Posted by Deacon Blues 2020-11-01 18:15|| 2020-11-01 18:15|| Front Page Top

#18 Personal withholdings at times in the 20 century has been as high as almost 40 percent for high earners.

Posted by Ebbomoger Speaking for Boskone4589 2020-11-01 22:13|| 2020-11-01 22:13|| Front Page Top

#19 Abe "Habeas Corpus" Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation only freed slaves in the Confederacy, not in the "Union":

That on the first day of January, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, all persons held as slaves within any State or designated part of a State, the people whereof shall then be in rebellion against the United States, shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free....

Posted by Clem 2020-11-01 22:23|| 2020-11-01 22:23|| Front Page Top

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