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2020-06-04 -Lurid Crime Tales-
Antifa Insurrection roundup: Vigilante residents wield their rifles as they block their street in Florida to guard against looters
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Posted by Skidmark 2020-06-04 10:45|| || Front Page|| [11132 views ]  Top

#1 'Looters looting looters': Shocking video shows a person walking down street in NYC carrying a packaged $1,500 Apple iMac computer only to have it stolen by two thieves amid store raids

Is it stealing if it's already stolen?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-06-04 12:22||   2020-06-04 12:22|| Front Page Top

#2 Suspected looter, 22, is shot dead by police 'while he was on his knees and had his hands up because cop thought he had a gun but instead turned out to be a hammer'

Thank G*d, he wasn't black.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-06-04 12:23||   2020-06-04 12:23|| Front Page Top

#3 Ca$ino, Ace Rothstein voiceover: "They (the cops) shot him in his driveway. They thought he had a gun, but it was a hero sandwich (wrapped in foil in the scene.)
Posted by M. Murcek 2020-06-04 12:28||   2020-06-04 12:28|| Front Page Top

#4 Belleview, about 50 minutes from me, outside Ocala. Not particularly urban. I'm a vigilante if I have my AR, a Mossberg 500 and a Sig P227 ready if someone starts breaking my windows or tries to set my car on fire in my driveway? Then I am, and I'll be a vigilante everyone will remember for years to come.
Posted by M. Murcek 2020-06-04 12:37||   2020-06-04 12:37|| Front Page Top

#5  hero sandwich (wrapped in foil in the scene.)

People need to get trained on gun ownership. They need to know the difference between a hero sandwich (wrapped in foil) and a gun or knife. You can't use deadly force with a guy wielding a fucking sandwich.
Posted by jpal 2020-06-04 12:46||   2020-06-04 12:46|| Front Page Top

#6 One person’s vigilante is another person’s militia.
Posted by Klem Kadiddlehopper 2020-06-04 13:09||   2020-06-04 13:09|| Front Page Top

#7 You can't use deadly force with a guy wielding a fucking sandwich.

You can't. I can't. A cop just has to say he was scared.
Posted by M. Murcek 2020-06-04 13:18||   2020-06-04 13:18|| Front Page Top

#8 Well. A "woke" DA will say my right to protect my property is subservient to a stranger's right to "make a statement" by burning my property.
Posted by M. Murcek 2020-06-04 13:20||   2020-06-04 13:20|| Front Page Top

#9 ^ Bingo!!
Posted by Unosh Hupinelet8756 2020-06-04 13:23||   2020-06-04 13:23|| Front Page Top

#10 You can't use deadly force with a guy wielding a fucking sandwich.

You can't. I can't. A cop just has to say he was scared.

In the state of Texas, after dark, I can. If you are on my property after dark in Texas, you have met the requirement for lethal force.
Posted by Silentbrick 2020-06-04 13:26||   2020-06-04 13:26|| Front Page Top

#11 Somali cop Noor ran the "I was scared" excuse for shooting Justine Damond. Only reason it didn't work is his colleagues in the PD hated him and hung him out to dry.
Posted by M. Murcek 2020-06-04 13:26||   2020-06-04 13:26|| Front Page Top

#12 In the state of Texas, after dark, I can.

As it should be. Texas also has "Fair warning." Once I give you fair warning you are not welcome on my property, you should stay away. That's how it should be.
Posted by M. Murcek 2020-06-04 13:29||   2020-06-04 13:29|| Front Page Top

#13 #2 Suspected looter, 22, is shot dead by police 'while he was on his knees and had his hands up because cop thought he had a gun but instead turned out to be a hammer'

According to Woody Guthrie, a hammer is a very powerful weapon, so this is fine.

People need to get trained on gun ownership. They need to know the difference between a hero sandwich (wrapped in foil) and a gun or knife. You can't use deadly force with a guy wielding a fucking sandwich.

Are you talking about "what ought to be" or "what is"?

I'm sure you understand that there's a big difference there.

We're not living in "everything must pass the white glove test" times anymore.



Posted by charger 2020-06-04 13:40||   2020-06-04 13:40|| Front Page Top

#14 "This machine kills fascists." Asshole.
Posted by M. Murcek 2020-06-04 13:43||   2020-06-04 13:43|| Front Page Top

#15 So, I wrap my Sig up in foil. Now I should be left alone. Really...
Posted by M. Murcek 2020-06-04 13:44||   2020-06-04 13:44|| Front Page Top

#16 Now admittedly, someone on my property after dark will get held at gunpoint for police. If they try to get in the house, well, that's another thing.
Posted by Silentbrick 2020-06-04 13:46||   2020-06-04 13:46|| Front Page Top

#17 Years ago, I had a discussion with a criminal defense attorney of my acquaintance:

Me: "You ever hear one of those stories about a person who was inside a house at an odd hour, claiming they were 'lost.'"

Attorney: "Yeah, that story comes up."

Me: "Well, if someone is inside my house like that at an odd hour, they are a little more 'lost' than they realize."

Attorney: "My advice? Shoot to kill. Then it's your word against his dead ass..."
Posted by M. Murcek 2020-06-04 13:59||   2020-06-04 13:59|| Front Page Top

#18 My shooting mentor also said, "If you are pointing a 12 gauge at someone, and they know it and do not do what you say, like lay on the ground, shoot them. Cause they are obviously insane and that's fear for your life."
Posted by Silentbrick 2020-06-04 14:21||   2020-06-04 14:21|| Front Page Top

#19 M. Murcek:
Noor also fired while his partner was between him and the target, nearly hitting his partner.
Posted by Martin Angeang2170 2020-06-04 14:39||   2020-06-04 14:39|| Front Page Top

#20 Texas also has "Fair warning."

the placement of identifying purple paint marks on trees or posts on the property
Posted by Skidmark 2020-06-04 15:04||   2020-06-04 15:04|| Front Page Top

#21 Picture from Coeur d'Alene are out; there were those dressed to impress but never saw Dan Wick.

Ever see a Bug-Out Bus? Neither had I. Made that 'dangerous item juggling group' bus covered in Grateful Dead bears look even a bit sillier.
Posted by swksvolFF 2020-06-04 15:25||   2020-06-04 15:25|| Front Page Top

#22 Guys, the "shot holding a sandwich" anecdote is from a movie.

And a hammer is a deadly weapon.
Posted by Rob Crawford 2020-06-04 15:35||   2020-06-04 15:35|| Front Page Top

#23 ^The important thing, he's not black.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-06-04 15:37||   2020-06-04 15:37|| Front Page Top

#24 Watched a demonstration about how to use a hammer in a fight, with an emphasis on short-handle. It is a weapon as old as warfare itself.

Dudefriend demonstrated how to use pliers in self defense. I was unhappy, even at a very friendly 5% effort.
Posted by swksvolFF 2020-06-04 16:19||   2020-06-04 16:19|| Front Page Top

#25 Sandwich, cellphone, etc. Your best bet is face down on the ground if LE is pointing guns at you.
Posted by M. Murcek 2020-06-04 16:47||   2020-06-04 16:47|| Front Page Top

#26 I've always felt a good proportion of white privileged is learning to say "Yes officer, no officer" and complying. Yes it sucks to suck it up if the officer is wrong or whatever, but dead is dead, and politeness could get your ticket downgraded into a warning.
Posted by rjschwarz 2020-06-04 17:46||   2020-06-04 17:46|| Front Page Top

#27 I don't feel a need to get shot at a traffic stop.
Posted by M. Murcek 2020-06-04 18:27||   2020-06-04 18:27|| Front Page Top

#28 Cop calls me an asshole I say "Yes, sir I am. What do you want this asshole to do now?"
Posted by M. Murcek 2020-06-04 18:29||   2020-06-04 18:29|| Front Page Top

#29 ...you guys had fathers who taught you that you can be right in a confrontation with a cop, dead right. The sperm donors don't hang around to teach their kids those fundamentals of life.
Posted by Procopius2k 2020-06-04 19:05||   2020-06-04 19:05|| Front Page Top

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