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2020-05-07 China-Japan-Koreas

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Posted by Besoeker 2020-05-07 03:41|| || Front Page|| [8 views ] Top
File under: Commies

#1 Now now, simmer down there. The ChiCom strategy is a lot simpler: let their quislings do the job of prostrating and hollowing out America for them.

No need to "absorb NKorea" when you have the Democrats, their media shills and thousands of US corporate whores doing your work for you.

Posted by Lex 2020-05-07 04:50|| 2020-05-07 04:50|| Front Page Top

#2 Did condi get her skin made lighter 😄 like Michael Jackson and get a job talking to the press at the white house or what!?!

Posted by Eohippus Grundy1775 2020-05-07 06:05|| 2020-05-07 06:05|| Front Page Top

#3 "The tell-tale sign is China's economy, which, without American markets to sell to, is in free fall."

Wrong again.

Posted by Thorong Grundy1520 2020-05-07 07:25|| 2020-05-07 07:25|| Front Page Top

#4 /\ They did just fine before we came along. They will do just fine after we leave. Do we continue to betray the American people with cheap, foreign slave labor, or do we recognize cheap labor for what it is ?

Time will tell.

Posted by Besoeker 2020-05-07 07:30|| 2020-05-07 07:30|| Front Page Top

#5 The piece offers more insight to the author's somewhat antiquated mindset than any current reality or future brainstorming.

Posted by Cesare 2020-05-07 07:35|| 2020-05-07 07:35|| Front Page Top

#6 China will not confront the west as the chance of the chicoms losing power is too strong that route. They will try to retreat from globalism and return to the 70s. I expect Tawian to be awash with Boat People as the PRC clamps down on freedoms and finds it easier to let people leave Cuba style than to lock them all up.

Posted by ruprecht 2020-05-07 09:23|| 2020-05-07 09:23|| Front Page Top

#7 Sorry, but the present leaders of the world lack the testicular fortitude for a world war. They're really like nervous CEOs of giant, ungainly corporations, each walking its own tightrope.

Wars, and rumours of wars... no world war.

Posted by Dron66046 2020-05-07 09:34|| 2020-05-07 09:34|| Front Page Top

#8 Also, China has become a sort of serial molester for everyone now. It has been tolerated for longer than was necessary. The next people they're going to try to screw are Australia. They're already at it. So we could see a minor conflict in the South China Sea, in the near future.

Posted by Dron66046 2020-05-07 09:41|| 2020-05-07 09:41|| Front Page Top

#9 They're killing the Hong Kong Golden Goose. They might find their economy too cratering to get really adventurous

Posted by Frank G 2020-05-07 09:52|| 2020-05-07 09:52|| Front Page Top

#10 ^Yea, well, any bets Xi can't convince himself that a short victorious war is exactly what he needs to stay in power?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-05-07 10:27|| 2020-05-07 10:27|| Front Page Top

#11 "A short victorious war" - right. Just like the wars that began in 1792, 1861, 1914, 1939, 1950, 2001, 2003...

And all our ~~yesterdays~~ "short victorious wars" have lighted fools the way to dusty death

Posted by Lex 2020-05-07 10:35|| 2020-05-07 10:35|| Front Page Top

#12 Cyberwar, yes. Bioattacks, economic war, information war: all of the above.

They don't need to attack anyone militarily. This corona episode has taught them that they need to do is incite panic and the nation's of the West will set about destroying themselves without a single shot being fired.

Posted by Lex 2020-05-07 10:38|| 2020-05-07 10:38|| Front Page Top

#13 All the attacks in the world will (1) Not restore their markets or economy (2) Not be visible to their own people

Might as well fake the whole thing combined with domestic round-ups of sypmathizers.

Posted by rjschwarz 2020-05-07 11:31|| 2020-05-07 11:31|| Front Page Top

#14 The only person who wanted war in 1939 was Hitler. Everybody else was unprepared and/or scared to death. That's why it took them so long to respond to Hitler's aggression. So I'm thinking Xi could get away with quite a bit before he finally steps over the wrong line. Then all bets are off. Hitler taught us that appeasement doesn't work but does anybody remember?

Also, it remains to be seen whether Xi is as crazy as Hitler. I think not. Hitler was over the rainbow. Xi strikes me as being cold, calculated and more careful but with strong narcissistic sociopathic tendencies. This is the kind of a guy who would have you whacked for any suggestion of a resemblance to Winnie the Pooh. Could be one of the most dangerous developments was when CCP made him president for life. It might be tough for cooler heads to rein him in.

Then there is the suspicion that Covid-19 is not natural and was not an accident either. We could already be at war.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2020-05-07 14:08|| 2020-05-07 14:08|| Front Page Top

#15 #14 Nobody wanted a war in 1914, either.

Posted by g(r)omgoru PB 2020-05-07 15:19|| 2020-05-07 15:19|| Front Page Top

#16 I think there's a phenomenon at play here. And with it a strategy presents itself.

Consider the muslim world. Centuries ago they gave themselves a onerous task. To conquer the world became a hereditary and inherent obligation of all muslim society. They were more successful than the Catholics only because of the prevalence of more tribalism than sense and civility in corners of the world. But think about the psychological momentum of a single, unalterable imperative being passed down from generation to generation. Like the tower of Babel, everyone's mental set containing the same imperatives; creating a society which can function as individuals but their default is a 'hive mind'.

This is what Xi and the party have tried to accomplish. The flavour is different, sure. It's coloured with distinctive cultural hues and hubris. But it's what they've tried to achieve.

Now imagine the clash with our liberal, classically oriented societies. Our peoples are not given any aim, any national objective. You believe, and maybe rightly so, that you came into this world to enjoy your life; mayhap you'll do some good occasionally, but their is no general obligation on you to contribute to anything. In fact the State exists to ensure that you're taken care of, if you should turn out to be an unemployable buffoon. And if the State interferes even with your 'fun and frolic', you'll tell it off, yessir !

There is no contest here. A larger population, with the inherent imperatives to make their country great -whatever passes for great there- will not relent. Like the muslims, the Chinese too have built a Babel, and even God knows they're determined to take it... somewhere. Unless they are stopped.

Now, consider how it was stopped in the beginning. A simple parallel of 'various tongues' could translate today as 'individual and group interests
gaining priority over the national interest' ?

This is what our agencies must focus on achieving. Dissent within the Han empire.

Posted by Dron66046 2020-05-07 22:16|| 2020-05-07 22:16|| Front Page Top

#17 divide et impera

Posted by Lex 2020-05-07 23:42|| 2020-05-07 23:42|| Front Page Top

#18 ^ Maybe not imperra, but certainly set back their efforts for a decade or two.

Introducing a divisive element into any society is a dastardly, twisted thing to do. Worse than an atomic bomb. Personally, I'd take the Fatman over it any day. It's final, teaches you a lesson in humility and turns you from a sword wielding Samurai with hair on your chest into a hairless Pokemon hunter.

But since that can only be used in actual conflict, if China plays aggressor, this is the only thing to do.

Posted by Dron66046 2020-05-07 23:54|| 2020-05-07 23:54|| Front Page Top

#19 What's the most promising point of division vs the Han Chinese?

Posted by Lex 2020-05-07 23:56|| 2020-05-07 23:56|| Front Page Top

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