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2020-04-30 Home Front: Politix
BREAKING: Governor Gavin Newsom to Close All State Parks and Beaches Across California
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Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-04-30 02:50|| || Front Page|| [11129 views ]  Top

#1 I see Coronavirus Bell Curve that California's new cases load doesn't decrease. So, I guess, Gavin is becoming desperate.

I see Illinois new cases increases.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-04-30 03:15||   2020-04-30 03:15|| Front Page Top

#2 Something doesn't add up. Between celebrity rah-rah and ham-fisted gummint, Cali should be so far ahead of the curve the rest of us can never hope to catch up.
Posted by M. Murcek 2020-04-30 07:37||   2020-04-30 07:37|| Front Page Top

#3 ...could it be that driving the middle class out has something to do with it? The ruling class isn't known to circulate with the peasants. (do I need to put a /sarc on that?)
Posted by Procopius2k 2020-04-30 07:41||   2020-04-30 07:41|| Front Page Top

#4 More testing = more cases.
A better measure is hospitalizations/deaths.
Posted by Thimp Clusort2035 2020-04-30 07:51||   2020-04-30 07:51|| Front Page Top

#5 Fatalities:population ratio for California and coastal CA counties, as of April 27:

CA total 1:20,000
(1,954 deaths out of 39m pop.)

LA County 1:9,500

San Diego 1:28,000

San Francisco/San Mateo/Santa Clara:
1:20,000 (175 out of 3.5m pop.)

Napa: 1:67,500 (2 out of 137,000 pop.)

San Luis Obispo: 1:283,000 (1 out of 283,000 pop.)
Posted by Lex 2020-04-30 08:25||   2020-04-30 08:25|| Front Page Top

#6 Acc. to the California Dept. of Public Health, the shape of this year's curve is not significantly different from that for prior years in California. So COVID deaths are likely to taper off this summer, which means California will probably end up with s.t. like 3,000 deaths this year.

However, this number's is probably not comparable to prior years. Assuming that the coding methodology this year has been altered-- a fair assumption given what we've seen elsewhere and the extreme publicity given to COVID--it's likely that deaths coded as caused by COVID need to be revised downward if one is to compare them to prior years' tallies.

Or you could revise prior years' numbers upward.

The CDPH took pains to point out that the 1,665 count in 2017-2018 was a severe underestimate: "Influenza-coded deaths [ for other, non-COVID coronaviruses] are not necessarily laboratory-confirmed and are an underestimate of all influenza-associated deaths ..."

So if the coding methodology were consistent across the current and prior years i.e. if this year's total coded deaths were to be revised downward OR prior years' coded deaths revised upward, we would probably see that this year's COVID deaths in California will not be significantly worse than a bad flu season.

Newsom and his people at Calif. Dept - Public Health surely know this.

The only possible explanation for maintaining the shutdown is political cowardice combined with a belief that ruining millions of Californians' lives will be less politically-damaging to the Boy Governor than enduring screaming headlines that claim, falsely, that lockdowns or lack thereof have any meaningful effect on the actual number of flu-related deaths in California.
Posted by Lex 2020-04-30 08:55||   2020-04-30 08:55|| Front Page Top

#7 "Respect my authori-tay!"
Posted by AlmostAnonymous5839 2020-04-30 09:02||   2020-04-30 09:02|| Front Page Top

#8 California Uber Alles
Posted by Regular joe 2020-04-30 09:13||   2020-04-30 09:13|| Front Page Top

#9 Good luck enforcing it.
Posted by DarthVader 2020-04-30 09:36||   2020-04-30 09:36|| Front Page Top

#10 Under the Emergency Powers Act, isn't his 30 days up ???
Posted by crazyhorse 2020-04-30 10:01||   2020-04-30 10:01|| Front Page Top

#11 I'm sure he'd extend it ad infinitum if he could.
Posted by Clem 2020-04-30 10:11||   2020-04-30 10:11|| Front Page Top

#12 If this were a fiction, then the plot would be.
(a) Introduce quarantine regulation so onerous & stupid that people, en mass, disobey them.
(b) Ignoring quarantine regulations leads to mega infection/death.
(c) Now tighten the screws.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-04-30 10:20||   2020-04-30 10:20|| Front Page Top

#13 RE: #6 - some people see the glass as half-empty, some see it as half-full Others look at the same glass and scream, "There's not enough water in this glass for everybody; we're all gonna die!"
Posted by Bobby 2020-04-30 10:28||   2020-04-30 10:28|| Front Page Top

#14 Californias disobeyed his mandate over the weekend so collective punishment for all.
Posted by rjschwarz 2020-04-30 11:02||   2020-04-30 11:02|| Front Page Top

#15 Don't you just love it when the state thinks it knows best?
Posted by Clem 2020-04-30 11:11||   2020-04-30 11:11|| Front Page Top

#16 Saline wash is supposed to help kill the virus. UV is not good for it. Well a beach is wet with salt water (saline wash) the breeze has salt water in it. The sun (UV) pounds the beach...
So one could make an argument that an ocean beach is one of the toughest environments for a Covid virus to infect somebody...
Posted by 3dc 2020-04-30 12:08||   2020-04-30 12:08|| Front Page Top

#17 Mr. Arrogance Newsom is building a Whitmer-like reputation and blowback
Posted by Frank G 2020-04-30 12:50||   2020-04-30 12:50|| Front Page Top

#18 So now only the homeless can walk feely in CA. The Gove needs to be careful, the people will speak...
Posted by 49 Pan 2020-04-30 12:57||   2020-04-30 12:57|| Front Page Top

#19 California is just so pathetic that I just take anything out of Sacramento as par for the course.
Posted by Clem 2020-04-30 13:38||   2020-04-30 13:38|| Front Page Top

#20 Over 40% of California deaths-attributed-to-COVID occurred in nursing homes -- per "California state health department data [that was] quietly published" this week.

Similar (a bit lower) % nationwide.
Roughly 50% for Europe.
Posted by Lex 2020-04-30 14:08||   2020-04-30 14:08|| Front Page Top

#21 Ergo, let's shut down every beach and park in the state of California. Brilliant.
Posted by Lex 2020-04-30 14:09||   2020-04-30 14:09|| Front Page Top

#22 Because fresh air, exercise, and sunlight are detrimental to our sheepish health
Posted by Frank G 2020-04-30 14:24||   2020-04-30 14:24|| Front Page Top

#23 #8 Jello Biafra, is that you?
Posted by charger 2020-04-30 14:41||   2020-04-30 14:41|| Front Page Top

#24 I've seen Coast Guard helicopters flying up and down the coast, right over the beach. Never seen those guys flying right over the beach so I think they're serious about it. Bummer. Driving home a week or so ago past one of my favorite breaks I saw a perfect, glassy, four foot wave peeling off to the right and nobody riding it. Bummer, bummer, bummer.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2020-04-30 14:45||   2020-04-30 14:45|| Front Page Top

#25 Here's a thought:

Cuomo, Newsom, Northam, the psycho in MI and the blob in Ill. are the talent pool for the Dems future Presidential aspirations.

What they're doing right now is providing a preview of what national governance will be like when one of them (or a kindred spirit) next wins a Prez election.

Which is likely to occur within the next eight years.

Sleep tight.
Posted by charger 2020-04-30 14:46||   2020-04-30 14:46|| Front Page Top

#26 Given Gavin has backed off on beach closures : Now he says only the offending areas such as Orange County beach's will be closed.
Posted by crazyhorse 2020-04-30 15:56||   2020-04-30 15:56|| Front Page Top

#27 Lex: Shush about Ess El Oh.
Posted by JHH 2020-04-30 17:13||   2020-04-30 17:13|| Front Page Top

#28 #26 - Yesss
Blowback was too much
Posted by Frank G 2020-04-30 17:31||   2020-04-30 17:31|| Front Page Top

#29 So now the Boy Governor says the closure will just affect one county and will be temporary.

In other words, Boy Gavin saw a photo of Californians enjoying themselves at the beach, was pissed off, threatened to close all of California's beaches as long as the little emperor saw fit, and then changed his mind and closed one small group of beaches temporarily.

As what the LA Times describes (covering the naked little boy-emperor's arse) as a "symbolic gesture."

Behold the caliber of our fearless leaders' decision-making. Calm, reasoned analysis of evidence.
Grace under pressure.
Posted by Lex 2020-04-30 17:33||   2020-04-30 17:33|| Front Page Top

#30 JHH - понял
Posted by Lex 2020-04-30 17:34||   2020-04-30 17:34|| Front Page Top

#31 There is a quote I can never quite remember, something like,
Nothing so erodes the power of the state as a law which is not obeyed and cannot be enforced.
Posted by swksvolFF 2020-04-30 17:50||   2020-04-30 17:50|| Front Page Top

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