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2019-07-07 Africa North

Haftar Forces Say Shot Down Unity Government Plane

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Posted by trailing wife 2019-07-07 00:00|| || Front Page|| [10327 views ] Top
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#1 the LNA claims to have a number of FN6 weapons they either captured from the GNA or were given by agents of Egypt or the UAE

a very believable claim given the events of the past week

Posted by lord garth 2019-07-07 02:34|| 2019-07-07 02:34|| Front Page Top

#2 What are FN6 weapons?

Posted by trailing wife 2019-07-07 08:20|| 2019-07-07 08:20|| Front Page Top

#3 ManPads

Posted by Frank G 2019-07-07 08:23|| 2019-07-07 08:23|| Front Page Top

#4 Thank you, Frank G.

Posted by trailing wife 2019-07-07 09:14|| 2019-07-07 09:14|| Front Page Top

#5 Is there a definable 'better' side in this squabble or is this just another of those "can they both lose" situations?

Posted by AlanC 2019-07-07 13:24|| 2019-07-07 13:24|| Front Page Top

#6 Haftar is the 'better' side here. Sworn to total destruction of the Muslim Brotherhood, Haftar has support of Libya's military and some militias too, for multiple reasons of their own. For now, the agenda is to get rid of anti-democratic islamist groups.

As we have all come to see, if not understand, every dictator, authoritarian, oligarch seems to fervently desire democracy for his country. That magical cauldron of legislators, houses, departments and ministries out of which come laws and ordinances establishing immutable authorities. The word that gives legitimacy to any whim and fancy of a group, and the people swallow it as having come from their mandate given to their 'representative'. That should explain Haftar's personal reasons.
he appears to be force against islamization and the proliferation of armed rag-head sasquatches. He believes in a democratic govt and constitution oriented society, with no room for sharia in it; but all this could change I suppose. The main thing is, that he is a good pain the ass to islamist groups, fundamentalist pressure groups and supporters of Hezbollah and Hamas. If Haftar stays in power, he should prove useful to the US and Israel. After all, the US sheltered him for years. He was an investment by the CIA in a future challenger to Ghaddafi. He has paid a good dividend to you since 2014, and continues to keep the pressure on for the numerous islamic factions.

He refused when the UN Yupp. Them again sponsored a resolution calling for a ceasefire and talks with GNA Govt of National Accord, an UN sponsored interim government. This transitional government, which preceded the GNC, General National Congress, co-opted militias to fill the security vacuum left by Ghaddafi loyalists. These militias affiliated later with Al quaeda, ISIS and Hamas to challenge and commandeer state institutions of Libya for their own use

Trump is known to have personally called him and congratulated him, offering behind-the-scenes assistance. Of course, Haftar continues to receive assistance from not only the CIA, but also the UAE, Russia and Egypt.

I believe it's a case of 'lesser evil' as always.

Posted by Dron66046 2019-07-07 14:41|| 2019-07-07 14:41|| Front Page Top

#7 Field Marshall Haftar and Egypt’s President Sisi have been working together to clear jihadis from their shared border region, and Sisi has continued to support his efforts to regain control of the rest of the country.

In contrast, the GNA can’t even maintain control of Tripoli.

Posted by trailing wife 2019-07-07 15:23|| 2019-07-07 15:23|| Front Page Top

#8 and is supported by Caliph Yippy. Nuff said

Posted by Frank G 2019-07-07 15:26|| 2019-07-07 15:26|| Front Page Top

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