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2019-01-16 Home Front: Politix
Dem Rep. Speier on Trump Discussing Pulling Out of NATO: ‘Ground' for Impeachment or 25th Amendment
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Posted by Besoeker 2019-01-16 00:33|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ]  Top

#1 NATO has fuck-all to do with protecting Americans. We're fine. It has everything to do with providing free security to ungrateful Europeans.
Posted by  Herb McCoy 2019-01-16 02:37||   2019-01-16 02:37|| Front Page Top

#2 "Mom, back in the hood, is ungrateful!"
A debt is a debt. Don't be hateful.
But Mom doing drugs
And "inviting" in thugs
Who have opened a brothel
With awful falafel
And are building kabooms
In your siblings' old rooms...
Well! The choices one makes can be fateful.
Posted by Bertie Lover of the Brontës2384 2019-01-16 04:21||   2019-01-16 04:21|| Front Page Top

#3 Demonstrating once again that the Donks can not give up a major welfare program even though its time is long past.
Posted by Procopius2k 2019-01-16 07:42||   2019-01-16 07:42|| Front Page Top

#4 Jackie Speier - Ranking Member of the House Armed Services Military Personnel Subcommittee hasn't actually supported the miliitary except forcing LGBTQXYZ on them. She's a Bay Area Dem tool
Posted by Frank G 2019-01-16 08:49||   2019-01-16 08:49|| Front Page Top

#5 Anything that empties the public trough is grounds for 25th amendment I see.

I actually agree with Herb 100% on this one. NATO is a social club at this point and couldn't stop a drunk Russian. Let them pay for their own defense and maybe Germany can field more that 4 out of 128 jets.

Doubt it, but hell let's try.
Posted by DarthVader 2019-01-16 10:08||   2019-01-16 10:08|| Front Page Top

#6 NATO is not an organisation if all the members don't follow the rules.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2019-01-16 11:30||   2019-01-16 11:30|| Front Page Top

#7 NATO was established by a formal and binding treaty, which means Trump cannot use his executive power to pull America out of the alliance. The Senate would never agree to this.
Posted by European Conservative 2019-01-16 11:37||   2019-01-16 11:37|| Front Page Top

#8 So when Germany and France create an EU armed forces, what is NATO?
Posted by jvalentour 2019-01-16 11:53||   2019-01-16 11:53|| Front Page Top

#9 Such forces are meant to be a complement to NATO, not a rival.
Posted by European Conservative 2019-01-16 11:59||   2019-01-16 11:59|| Front Page Top

#10 #7 As Commander in Chief he can determine manning levels and equipment/PLL distribution. Just as other NATO members have determined what amount of funding they choose to contribute on their defense. The word the legal eagles use is 'de facto'.
Posted by Procopius2k 2019-01-16 12:00||   2019-01-16 12:00|| Front Page Top

#11 When the EU reached its current structure the reasons for NATO started quickly disappearing. If they want a European Combined Army then there is no reason for NATO to continue.
Posted by magpie 2019-01-16 12:57||   2019-01-16 12:57|| Front Page Top

#12 Re: #4 - Having sat in numerous meetings with Ms. Speier, I can attest that she is a truly a dim bulb. Her one claim to political fame is that Larry Layton didn't manage to kill her when he got Rep Ryan and photographer Bob Brown. He did wound her pretty badly, tho, so I assume some slack is appropriate.
Posted by Herb Stalin2933 2019-01-16 13:39||   2019-01-16 13:39|| Front Page Top

#13  Such forces are meant to be a complement to NATO, not a rival.

Why don't they complement NATO by paying their fair share?
Posted by Abu Uluque 2019-01-16 14:14||   2019-01-16 14:14|| Front Page Top

#14 Perhaps the US should see how other nations are below their NATO commitments and match them percentage-wise.
Posted by rjschwarz 2019-01-16 15:10||   2019-01-16 15:10|| Front Page Top

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