Article

2018-01-01 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

Former Soetoro Official: US 'Chose to Not Be as Supportive' of 2009 Iranian Protesters

Archived material is restricted to Rantburg regulars and members. If you need access email fred.pruitt=at=gmail.com with your nick to be added to the members list. There is no charge to join Rantburg as a member.

Posted by Besoeker 2018-01-01 02:15|| || Front Page|| [11125 views ] Top

Not exactly 'a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma' now is it ?

Posted by Besoeker 2018-01-01 02:22|| 2018-01-01 02:22|| Front Page Top

#2 But imagine the fights among future historians re "Why Americans elected Obama - twice", Besoeker.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2018-01-01 02:46|| 2018-01-01 02:46|| Front Page Top

#3 Had there been no Soetoro, would there be a Trump today ?

A bit dated, but there was this....

“You can always count on the Americans to do the right thing after they have tried everything else.”
~ Churchill

Posted by Besoeker 2018-01-01 02:58|| 2018-01-01 02:58|| Front Page Top

#4 Had there been no Soetoro, would there be a Trump today?

Barry as an unsung hero who saved the World from Hillary? Should be good for a PhD thesis around 2050.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2018-01-01 03:19|| 2018-01-01 03:19|| Front Page Top

#5 Should be good for a PhD thesis around 2050.

St. Martin de Porres is long forgotten. Soetoro will be Canonized well before 2050. In fact, it could happen in 'your' lifetime. Thankfully not mine.

Posted by Besoeker 2018-01-01 03:24|| 2018-01-01 03:24|| Front Page Top

#6 Soetoro will be Canonized well before 2050.

No way.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2018-01-01 03:30|| 2018-01-01 03:30|| Front Page Top

#7 Sorry g(r)omgoru, he's already passed the first tests of sainthood by healing the sick (Obamacare), Feeding the poor (Moochelle's school lunches) and bringing world peace (by rolling over for Iran, China, Russia and Norkland.)

Posted by Phamble the Prolific2456 2018-01-01 05:19|| 2018-01-01 05:19|| Front Page Top

#8 Check my internet accounts. Hell, check the Burg. I made it very explicitly clear and Crystal I wanted Persia back and instead you did the exact opposite of everything I asked you to do and shored up the Mullahs and paid them off and ..worse you fucker bitch.

Adultery applies to false doctrine in some cases.
Did you not hear me down here screaming at you to stop this madness and spiteful work?

What is it about you that refuses the reality that if you stand for what is Correct, one day you will be accepted in a better way?

It's a popularity contest for well spoken tokens or bad ideology to stick it to "The Man"

And that you did My Child.

I don't hate you really. Just disappointed

Posted by newc 2018-01-01 05:49|| 2018-01-01 05:49|| Front Page Top

#9 #2 But imagine the fights among future historians re "Why Americans elected Obama - twice", Besoeker.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru

Easy answer, there was no other suitable candidate from any political party that appealed to the American people.

Really the primary democrat candidates in 2008 were Biden, Clinton, Dodd, Edwards, Gravel, Kucinich, Obama and Richardson. (Among other lesser known candidates.)

Posted by Seeking cure for ignorance 2018-01-01 06:29|| 2018-01-01 06:29|| Front Page Top

#10 Given the republican choices, it's really no surprise that Obama won.

So basically Obama won because his opponents sucked big time, some would say that they were kinda toxic.

(Both major parties apparently still have not learned from the 2016 elections why Trump won. So far Trump has been a spectacular success and this will shape future presidential elections.) (Maybe, if anybody bother to learn from this election.)

Posted by Seeking cure for ignorance 2018-01-01 06:30|| 2018-01-01 06:30|| Front Page Top

#11 And the Republican Candidates were Giuliani, Huckabee, Hunter, Keyes, McCain, Paul, Romney and Thompson.

Names pulled from Wikipedia.

Most were long time Washington politicians and frankly, people were tired of the same ol', same ol'. Obama at the time seemed like fresh perspective and eventually won the election.

In 2012, on the democrat side, there basically was Obama and um, Obama. the others were mostly fridge candidates who never really had a chance of winning. Ed Cowan who came in second on the democrat ticket only got 1.56% of the votes.

Posted by Seeking cure for ignorance 2018-01-01 06:34|| 2018-01-01 06:34|| Front Page Top

#12 Easy answer, there was no other suitable candidate from any political party that appealed to the American people.

That is entirely correct. Key takeaway here; the selection of unsuitable candidates went according to plan.

In the presidential election of 2016, the plan obviously failed.

Posted by Besoeker 2018-01-01 06:34|| 2018-01-01 06:34|| Front Page Top

#13 While the three top Republicans were Ron Paul, Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman. Ron Paul got 3.77% of the votes, the rest even less. (Same source as above.)

Word limit messed up the order of my posts.

Suggested reading, #9, then #11 followed by #12 with #10 at the end.

Posted by Seeking cure for ignorance 2018-01-01 06:36|| 2018-01-01 06:36|| Front Page Top

#14 Oh yeah, #13 follow #12 with #10 at the end.

Posted by Seeking cure for ignorance 2018-01-01 06:39|| 2018-01-01 06:39|| Front Page Top

#15 The big Republican money in 2008 primaries went to McCain. That was the big mistake.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2018-01-01 11:04|| 2018-01-01 11:04|| Front Page Top

#16 And the Republican Candidates were Giuliani, Huckabee, Hunter, Keyes, McCain, Paul, Romney and Thompson.

Hunter would have made a good president. But, as I said, the big money went a whoring after McCain.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2018-01-01 11:06|| 2018-01-01 11:06|| Front Page Top

#17 Obama Inc. White House. Our first Shia n' Thief.

Posted by Woodrow 2018-01-01 13:06|| 2018-01-01 13:06|| Front Page Top

#18 But imagine the fights among future historians re "Why Americans elected Obama - twice", Besoeker.

"When millions of Iranians took to the streets in June of 2009, when they demanded freedom from a cruel regime that threatens the world, when they cried out, 'Are you with us, or are you with them?' -- the American president was silent," Romney said.

That bastard didn't say anything until that young lady was shot dead cold by the regime police, and only then when the story couldn't be suppressed any long did that bastard endorse dinner jacket and the election results. Silence, then back to attaching the colon hooks on once a future obamacare.

Posted by swksvolFF 2018-01-01 14:04|| 2018-01-01 14:04|| Front Page Top

22:49 Blackbeard Bumble5724
22:48 Blackbeard Bumble5724
22:39 rjschwarz
22:08 Ulaigum Ebbineng7056
21:46 trailing wife
21:36 Rambler in Virginia
21:35 P2kontheroad
20:58 Zenobia Floger6220
20:26 H. Jineng3062
20:13 USN, Ret.
19:59 Thing From Snowy Mountain
19:52 Frank G
19:49 Frank G
19:48 newc
19:41 Fred
19:12 trailing wife
19:07 trailing wife
19:01 trailing wife
18:54 trailing wife
18:26 P2kontheroad
18:25 trailing wife
17:56 DarthVader
17:46 Seeking cure for ignorance
17:41 magpie