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2016-02-18 -Land of the Free

Apple encryption case risks influencing Russia and China, privacy experts say

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Posted by Besoeker 2016-02-18 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11133 views ] Top

#1 Authoritarian governments including Russia and China will demand greater access to mobile data should Apple lose a watershed encryption case...

Sounds like complete horseshit to me. Russia and China wouldn't want to crack phones otherwise?

Posted by Raj 2016-02-18 00:24|| 2016-02-18 00:24|| Front Page Top

#2 Best explanation of FBI request at this link

Posted by 3dc 2016-02-18 01:00|| 2016-02-18 01:00|| Front Page Top

#3 The fourth amendment allows the government to compel you to give up something that exists. I am unaware of a precedent where it compels you to create something new.

Make a copy of the sim card. Every 10 password tries, restore, repeat until you guess right.

Posted by Sven the pelter 2016-02-18 09:15|| 2016-02-18 09:15|| Front Page Top

#4 To be clear, make ASF (figure it out) number of copies and try them in parallel.

Posted by Sven the pelter 2016-02-18 09:22|| 2016-02-18 09:22|| Front Page Top

#5 ZDnet had this to say:

In short, if Apple enables even a single-use back door, the existence of such a thing will undoubtedly be used against us. Even a special-case one-off crack like the one the FBI has requested ~~certainly will~~ could break lose and compromise security.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2016-02-18 09:29|| 2016-02-18 09:29|| Front Page Top

I am unaware of a precedent where it compels you to create something new.

Apparently there is an old law supporting the gov's demand.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2016-02-18 09:36|| 2016-02-18 09:36|| Front Page Top

#7 Great. So the government can dig out an old law and force you to sleep with Hillary in order to find out more about those emails?

Posted by European Conservative 2016-02-18 11:38|| 2016-02-18 11:38|| Front Page Top

#8 Apple can always state, "We tried but it is not possible".

Ball in your court. (Ok, ok; I am off to my room.)

Posted by Sven the pelter 2016-02-18 11:56|| 2016-02-18 11:56|| Front Page Top

#9 That is a most unpleasant thought, EC.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2016-02-18 11:59|| 2016-02-18 11:59|| Front Page Top

#10 I'm not sure what an activist leftist Supreme Court would say...

Posted by European Conservative 2016-02-18 12:05|| 2016-02-18 12:05|| Front Page Top

#11 Interesting the FBI request was about 'THIS DEVICE' and all actions requested would be undertaken on 'THIS DEVICE' in such a manner as to not destroy the content nor violate the controls.

Given a known IOS filesystem architecture and a discoverable public key, I think I would undertake a different tact if I just wanted access to the poop.

Posted by Skidmark 2016-02-18 14:49|| 2016-02-18 14:49|| Front Page Top

#12 #3 SIM card has nothing to do with this - it's a passcode lock - you get 10 tries and if these fail, the phone is disabled, i.e. "wiped"

Me, Id guess his PIN is 0911

Posted by Bov Flimbers 2016-02-18 23:31|| 2016-02-18 23:31|| Front Page Top

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