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2016-02-10 Southeast Asia
Vietnam Gets Fifth Kilo Submarine from Russia
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Posted by Pappy 2016-02-10 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11130 views ]  Top

#1 Is Viet Nam still Communist nowadays, or has it become something else?
Posted by trailing wife 2016-02-10 00:50||   2016-02-10 00:50|| Front Page Top

#2 It went the China route. It is technically "communist", but has fairly open markets and lets its people travel and say most things freely. Piss off the central party and you can be in trouble, but they aren't as rabid about it as the Chinese.
Posted by DarthVader 2016-02-10 00:59||   2016-02-10 00:59|| Front Page Top

#3 BEIJING = CHINA is still p.o'ed that Vietnam + PH didn't give them base rights in Cam Ranh Bay or Manila Bay-Subic.

Hence our on-going de-e-e-lemmas in the SCS + ECS + Chinese SU's over SOKOR.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2016-02-10 01:25||   2016-02-10 01:25|| Front Page Top

#4 TW: Everything's still owned by the Party, or the Party Member's Relatives, or foreign corporations.

I think you were one of the people I talked to about how a lot of the "post-communist" countries were effectively following the pattern of post-closure-of-the-Grand-Council Venice a couple years ago.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2016-02-10 15:43||   2016-02-10 15:43|| Front Page Top

#5 So, #2, pretty much how things here will be if Sanders wins!
Posted by Yosemite Sam 2016-02-10 16:03||   2016-02-10 16:03|| Front Page Top

#6 ..except only the Inner Party will be able to afford to buy all those trinkets from China to keep their dumping economy going.
Posted by Procopius2k 2016-02-10 16:08||   2016-02-10 16:08|| Front Page Top

#7 Sam, there's one small problem: competent mandarins beat incompetent mandarins, which is what we've been getting thus far from the democrats.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2016-02-10 16:27||   2016-02-10 16:27|| Front Page Top

#8 six Project 636 Kilo-class diesel-electric submarines for $2 billion back in 2009

So one-a-year for $300+million?

Posted by Skidmark 2016-02-10 17:00||   2016-02-10 17:00|| Front Page Top

#9 China has about ten times the number of diesel subs and nine nuclear boats on top of that.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2016-02-10 18:45||   2016-02-10 18:45|| Front Page Top

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