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2015-01-29 Caribbean-Latin America
Raul Castro Says The US Must Return Guantanamo Bay Before Ties Are Normalized
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Posted by Hupineger Glomomp0028 2015-01-29 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views ]  Top

#1 I think we should give Guantanamo to Cuba WITH the prisoners.

Raul and Fidel are not fools, they don't want those kinds running around Cuba...they'll keep them locked up.

I trust Fidel and Raul to be more realistic about Fanatic Islam than the human teleprompter.
Posted by Mystic 2015-01-29 00:12||   2015-01-29 00:12|| Front Page Top

#2 Essens the US has to unilaterally give in to all of Cuba's demands past-n-present.

As for returning GITMO, as per OWG NAU iff the Globies are going to be arguing that the
"American Dream" of the 20th Century is now SSSSHHHH ...CCCCC the "North American Dream" in the 21st century wid Mexico + Canada + Greenland now in the mix + per se responsible for both it + enforcement of the Monroe Doctrine, etc. WHUT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG???
Posted by JosephMendiola 2015-01-29 00:41||   2015-01-29 00:41|| Front Page Top

#3 Just as I suspected. GITMO becomes the Cuban 'Robben Island' national museum to Yankee imperialism.
Posted by Besoeker 2015-01-29 01:10||   2015-01-29 01:10|| Front Page Top

#4 One of the shore batteries (now restored) on Robben Island which helped guard the Cape from attack and transit by the Axis powers in WWII.
Posted by Besoeker 2015-01-29 01:54||   2015-01-29 01:54|| Front Page Top

#5 He did say that he was gonna shut down Gitmo during the SOTU. Not the prison at Gitmo. His exact words were "close Guantanamo Bay."
Posted by Lowspark 2015-01-29 04:09||   2015-01-29 04:09|| Front Page Top

#6 I suspect he's shooting for a formal handover ceremony to coincide with the RNC 2016 national convention to be held July 18–21, 2016. That gives him a year and a half to repatriate all the inmates and get the U.S. military personnel home. We may even see some sort of Mil-to-Mil [Cuban to U.S.] action committee being formed later this year.

By rhe way, the PX/BX at Balboa has also been closed.
Posted by Besoeker 2015-01-29 05:50||   2015-01-29 05:50|| Front Page Top

#7 He might be able to abandon Gitmo, but he can't swing compensation for the embargo. Deals off, Obama gets left holding the bag and looking like the naïf he is. Other possibility Cuba gets GITMO, knows compensation is impossible, relations stagger along a slightly better course, Obama still looks like a naïf.
Posted by Shipman 2015-01-29 06:23||   2015-01-29 06:23|| Front Page Top

#8 The deal is done! First man he shakes hands with as steps from the Podium at the Madiba memorial service, 9 Dec 2013.

"Sometimes a handshake is just a handshake. But when the leader of the free world shakes the bloody hand of a ruthless dictator like Raul Castro, it becomes a propaganda coup for the tyrant," Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fla., told Secretary of State John Kerry Tuesday during a hearing on Iran. She was born in Cuba and fled as a child with her family. "Right now as we speak, Cuban opposition leaders are being detained and they're being beaten while trying to commemorate today, which is International Human Rights Day. They will feel disheartened when they see these photos."

Link
Posted by Besoeker 2015-01-29 06:26||   2015-01-29 06:26|| Front Page Top

#9 Nobody is this stupid. Nobody.
Especially when they have a crackhead team around them to think about this kind of stuff.
What is he up to?
Posted by gorb 2015-01-29 07:37||   2015-01-29 07:37|| Front Page Top

#10 "Remember the Maine!"
Posted by Frank G 2015-01-29 08:57||   2015-01-29 08:57|| Front Page Top

#11 Not the first time Cuban has played the olde approach avoidance game. Got the boatlift outta one and a couple of shot up yachts the time before that.
Posted by Shipman 2015-01-29 10:40||   2015-01-29 10:40|| Front Page Top

#12 No problem Cuba.

We only want all of the ruling party to hang themselves and have Cuba hold free elections.

Then we turn it over.

Deal?
Posted by DarthVader 2015-01-29 11:22||   2015-01-29 11:22|| Front Page Top

#13 You need GTMO.
You need the Naval Observatory.
You need it for strategic planning and defense.
It's not a cookie, it is a military installation.
Posted by newc 2015-01-29 12:30||   2015-01-29 12:30|| Front Page Top

#14 Pay compensation to the US Citizens who had their propery nationalized during the Revolution and then we'll talk about other issues.
Posted by rjschwarz 2015-01-29 14:35||   2015-01-29 14:35|| Front Page Top

#15 Yep, give it back to Spain along with an apology for that 1898 misunderstanding.
Posted by Procopius2k 2015-01-29 19:38||   2015-01-29 19:38|| Front Page Top

#16 Obama is angling for his second Nobel Peace Prize. He wants to seal up a deal with Iran, close Gitmo, and reestablish relations with Cuba. He has already abandoned Iraq and Afghanistan. In the short term, he will have appeared to make the world more peaceful - ignoring ISIS, Boko Haram, and other terrorist "insurgencies".

Of course, after Iran gets their nukes, and Tel Aviv disappears under a mushroom cloud, and all hell breaks loose in the Middle East, the world will be at war. But at least his legacy will be assured.
Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2015-01-29 21:03||   2015-01-29 21:03|| Front Page Top

#17 The Maha-Rushian Questionne' du Jour is IS THE FUTURE OWG CENTRAL AMERICAN UNION [Mexico-led?], CARIBBEAN UNION [Cuba-led?], ANDOR SOUTH AMERICAN UNION [Brazil-led? Argentina = Argentinia-Brazil? Mercusor Bloc?] BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ENSURING THE PROSPERITY + GEOPOL SECURITY, ETC. OF THE FUTURE OWG NORTH AMERICAN UNION [NAU]?

* Where OWG NAU > may, or may NOT, include GUAM-WESTPAC or even HAWAII???

Lest we fergit, the US is officially over US$18.0Trilyuhn in Debt, owes a lot of it to CHINA, + many China Perts-Bloggers have no qualms demanding the US turn over its sovereign territory(s) to China in lieu of payment andor avoiding major war.

* US-LED ANTI-US OWG GLOBALISM = NO LONGER "PEACE THRU STRENGTH", BUT "PEACE THRU RETREAT/RETREAT IS PEACE".

Any Each + All OWG Co-Superpower(s) are ideally NUCLEAR-N-GEOPOL EQUALS TO THE US, N-O-T NUCLEAR INFERIORS TO THE US!

You just know theres going to be serious trouble iff someone doesn't get their "fair share".
Posted by JosephMendiola 2015-01-29 22:22||   2015-01-29 22:22|| Front Page Top

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