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2014-12-05 Science & Technology

The Debate Goes On. U.S. Army seeking new sidearm to replace Beretta 9mm.

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Posted by JohnQC 2014-12-05 11:01|| || Front Page|| [7 views ] Top

#1 The FN 57x28 Pistol is a quality pistol though mostly plastic and overpriced considering what is available now. Reliable; probably, as it IS an FN. Even with AP (military or LE only) rounds it won't penetrate body armor with plates any better than a 5.56. When you check reloading data the bullet is just a very light version of the 5.56/.223 family.

Small caliber vs. Large. Comes down to what is desired, many Spec Ops who have used the Beretta favor the 45. Depends on the mission.

Posted by tipover 2014-12-05 12:33|| 2014-12-05 12:33|| Front Page Top

#2 The "Lethal Weapon" in those movies was not the firearm, it was Mel Gibson's character, Riggs. I swear, journalists are idiots when it comes to firearms and having their entire vision and judgement clouded by irrationality.

Posted by OldSpook 2014-12-05 15:20|| 2014-12-05 15:20|| Front Page Top

#3 Whatever it is, you can bet that it will be polymer frame, dead simple to maintain, and a more powerful round than the 9mm parabellum.

Big question is will they go with a striker fired weapon instead of a hammer fired one?

Posted by OldSpook 2014-12-05 15:24|| 2014-12-05 15:24|| Front Page Top

#4 I read in the local newspaper that an experienced police officer had a discharge of his duty weapon while going off-duty. He was exiting the police car when his weapon discharged There was no mention of how this happened. The last I knew, they were carrying Glocks. I seem to recall they went from a 9mm Glock to a 45cal Glock.

Posted by JohnQC 2014-12-05 16:29|| 2014-12-05 16:29|| Front Page Top

#5 I wouldn't procure till 2017. The diversity whores in DoD will insist that it would have to be usable by people who can't handle the needed caliber to drop a target on their ass even if you didn't kill'm.

Posted by Procopius2k 2014-12-05 16:50|| 2014-12-05 16:50|| Front Page Top

#6 Or they would require the firearm to have so many safeties on it as to render it unsafe and unusable.

Posted by JohnQC 2014-12-05 16:57|| 2014-12-05 16:57|| Front Page Top

#7 There was that superb .45 cal they were using in 2011, oh, wait, I mean 1911.

Posted by KBK 2014-12-05 17:56|| 2014-12-05 17:56|| Front Page Top

#8 Double Plus Colt 1911

Posted by linker 2014-12-05 19:16|| 2014-12-05 19:16|| Front Page Top

#9 Austin, TX shooter downed at 100 yds with M&P 40..

Posted by Skidmark 2014-12-05 22:25|| 2014-12-05 22:25|| Front Page Top

#10 M&P 40 is supposedly one of the front runners

Posted by OldSpook 2014-12-05 22:28|| 2014-12-05 22:28|| Front Page Top

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