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2013-09-09 -Land of the Free
107-Year-Old Man Killed in SWAT Shootout in Arkansas
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Posted by Fred 2013-09-09 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ]  Top

#1 Sounds like Murder to me.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-09-09 00:11||   2013-09-09 00:11|| Front Page Top

#2 Hate to armchair this one, but I wonder if anyone suggested warm milk and a few cookies, a preacher or two? He might have harmlessly just dozed off. The foto with him in a suit and tie, looked pretty respectable. I'll bet he worked hard and paid taxes all his life. Clean living took him to 107. Too bad no one told him about the new Police State.

Kick me if I'm wrong, I'll go shut up.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-09-09 00:43||   2013-09-09 00:43|| Front Page Top

#3 They're still working standardizing common sense. Until that happens, it's not going to be part of their training.
Posted by gorb 2013-09-09 01:51||   2013-09-09 01:51|| Front Page Top

#4 Shoot at the cops, get shot back. sounds fair to me.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2013-09-09 03:41||   2013-09-09 03:41|| Front Page Top

#5 Too simple.

The man is 107 years old. They screwed with him. Just leave him alone and he'll settle down.

Suppose if they had a chance to do it all again they would?
Posted by gorb 2013-09-09 03:47||   2013-09-09 03:47|| Front Page Top

#6 At least they did not burn the house down.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2013-09-09 03:57||   2013-09-09 03:57|| Front Page Top

#7 107 years old, grew up in a country where a man's home, etc...
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-09-09 04:05||   2013-09-09 04:05|| Front Page Top

#8 I think I would have had the cops wait a whole lot longer before trying to put gas, 'distraction' devices, etc., into the house.

Once the two victims had been secured safely and it was determined that Isadore was in the house alone, there's no rush. Put up a perimeter, get a bullhorn and start talking. The goal is to bore him into surrendering.

We don't have near all the facts yet, but I wonder what the rush was.
Posted by Steve White 2013-09-09 07:41||   2013-09-09 07:41|| Front Page Top

#9 Exactly, Doc. They couldn't wait him out? He likely had a nap coming up soon.
Posted by Spot 2013-09-09 08:05||   2013-09-09 08:05|| Front Page Top

#10  but I wonder what the rush was.

Suicide by cop. Ably assisted by kids who have toys they have to use because they're there.

SWAT teams are wannabee miitary. OK, then they go under the State not the city or county. For law enforcement they belong to the AG. The AG personally clears the use of them in an incident. All actions are filmed. A formal official After Action Report is filed with each case. At least once a year all cases are reviewed for adjustments to TTP and employment. If you want to be professional don't moan about it. It you just want to play cowboys and indians/cops and robbers, grow up or have your toys taken away from you.
Posted by Procopius2k 2013-09-09 08:13||   2013-09-09 08:13|| Front Page Top

#11 "If I had a Great-Grandfather, he would look like Monroe Isadore" - BHO
Posted by Au Auric 2013-09-09 09:07||   2013-09-09 09:07|| Front Page Top

#12 I suppose going that way is better than while lying in one's filth in a rest home*.


*or having a death panel tell you you're too old to get treatment...
Posted by Pappy 2013-09-09 10:15||   2013-09-09 10:15|| Front Page Top

#13 I can imagine a real problem for police and certain politicians if more elder ex-military types decide they need to serve their country one last time in an extralegal, violent fashion.
Posted by Iblis 2013-09-09 10:27||   2013-09-09 10:27|| Front Page Top

#14 ...and thus from fear the labeling of veterans by DHS as a 'threat' along with terrorists (excluding the MB).
Posted by Procopius2k 2013-09-09 10:34||   2013-09-09 10:34|| Front Page Top

#15 LUM AND ABNER, NO!!!!
Posted by Rob Crawford 2013-09-09 12:18||   2013-09-09 12:18|| Front Page Top

#16 The man probably couldn't walk, probably could not crawl. Most likely on a lot of medication and most likely only had a few rounds in his pistol.

But the "badass" pigs had a chance at last to kill.
Posted by Angaimp Panda2522 2013-09-09 12:39||   2013-09-09 12:39|| Front Page Top

#17 I wonder what the rush was

That is twinkle, twinkle little star
Along come Brady in his electric car
But he's got a mean look right in his eyes
He's gonna shoot somebody just to see him die
He's been on the job too long
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-09-09 13:52||   2013-09-09 13:52|| Front Page Top

#18 This means anyone is fair game and any age. IRS, NSA, the enforcers. Even eminent domain.
Posted by Dale 2013-09-09 19:20||   2013-09-09 19:20|| Front Page Top

#19 Did these guys know beforehand that they were going up against an 107 year old man? I'd be interested in the answer to that one.
Posted by tu3031 2013-09-09 19:47||   2013-09-09 19:47|| Front Page Top

#20 Good question. Because if they knew he was 107 they would sure look like (and actually be) idiots, wouldn't they?
Posted by Omusomble Ebboth8319 2013-09-09 22:04||   2013-09-09 22:04|| Front Page Top

#21 That was me.
Posted by gorb 2013-09-09 22:12||   2013-09-09 22:12|| Front Page Top

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