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2013-07-25 Science & Technology

New Hard Data Debunking CO2 Climate Warmism Hysteria

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Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-07-25 15:27|| || Front Page|| [11129 views ] Top

#1 The story on CO2 is not news. The news is that Science published it.

Posted by Iblis 2013-07-25 15:39|| 2013-07-25 15:39|| Front Page Top

#2 It all became crap to me when I found out they were positioning temperature sensors next to airports, etc..

No complicated science necessary.

Posted by gorb 2013-07-25 15:41|| 2013-07-25 15:41|| Front Page Top

#3 No Iblis, we knew they faked results but that doesn't necessarily means theory is wrong. This result proves theory is wrong.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-07-25 15:46|| 2013-07-25 15:46|| Front Page Top

#4 previous work had indicated only 3F higher during Pliocene

also, co2 was supposed to be 450ppm

Posted by lord garth 2013-07-25 15:53|| 2013-07-25 15:53|| Front Page Top

#5 It was all questionable to me from day 1.

It was all fake for sure with the climate gate releases. I am very experienced in computer modeling and know Fortran. The code fragments that were released had several flashing red lights. The worst one being the inclusion of a table look-up to modify the given data with NO indication of where the table came from or what was in it.

The key danger with computer modeling of any kind, whether it is a complex, sophisticated scientific model or a small business Xcel spread sheet is that canonical saying "Garbage In, Garbage Out".

Don't matter if the Garbage going in is accidental or deliberate, the results are worthless.

Posted by AlanC 2013-07-25 16:46|| 2013-07-25 16:46|| Front Page Top

#6 This wasn't just GIGO.
The results of one iteration of the model where fed back into the model to "predict" the future.

Obviously no-one had a clue about feedback and exponential error.

It's near perfect in junk out under these situations.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2013-07-25 17:52|| 2013-07-25 17:52|| Front Page Top

#7 Yes, AlanC, you are exactly right.

I also have designed and built FORTRAN numerical models of systems described by complex differential equations. The climategate code releases were smoking-gun evidence of fraud.

That doesn't necessarily mean the principle-investigator was the fraudster, but he was at the least negligent if not worse.

Posted by rammer 2013-07-25 20:54|| 2013-07-25 20:54|| Front Page Top

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