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2013-07-21 Africa Horn

Egypt 'deeply concerned' over Ethiopia's stance on Nile dispute

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Posted by Steve White 2013-07-21 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11136 views ] Top

#1 let's see: by 2050, Egypt will need ....ummm.... (55.5 + 21 =) 76.5 billion cubic meters of.....74 billion allocated. That's gonna work fine. Can anyone do math over there?

Posted by Frank G 2013-07-21 09:05|| 2013-07-21 09:05|| Front Page Top

#2 Allan will contribute another 2.5 bcm in rainfall. And everyone else stops having allotments.

Posted by Glenmore 2013-07-21 09:27|| 2013-07-21 09:27|| Front Page Top

#3 Can anyone do math over there?

Yes there are---the mutaween are looking for them right now.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-07-21 09:45|| 2013-07-21 09:45|| Front Page Top

#4 Of course the answer is to bring in Israeli experts to help design improvements and train the farmers in both countries to use them, but that'll never happen.

Posted by trailing wife 2013-07-21 09:46|| 2013-07-21 09:46|| Front Page Top

#5 the actual answer is that they're depending on the Four Horsemen to keep the population down.

Posted by Frank G 2013-07-21 10:18|| 2013-07-21 10:18|| Front Page Top

#6 they're depending on the Four Horsemen to keep the population down.

Given it's been a year or so since the country effectively ran out of childhood innoculations, that invitation has been issued and accepted.

Posted by trailing wife 2013-07-21 10:27|| 2013-07-21 10:27|| Front Page Top

#7 Wake me when the mass starvation and killing happens.

Posted by DarthVader 2013-07-21 10:39|| 2013-07-21 10:39|| Front Page Top

#8 Let me know when the concert is...

Posted by tu3031 2013-07-21 10:48|| 2013-07-21 10:48|| Front Page Top

#9 Will Willie Nelson be there?

Posted by Shipman 2013-07-21 12:02|| 2013-07-21 12:02|| Front Page Top

#10 Stevie Wonder will move the FLA leg of his tour to Cairo - where Stand Your Ground doesn't apply

Posted by Frank G 2013-07-21 12:12|| 2013-07-21 12:12|| Front Page Top

#11 Notice how they don't see Ethiopia having the right to one ounce of the Blue Nile's water even though the Blue Nile's headwaters are in Ethiopia.

Maybe I am just evil but I think Ethiopia should dam the whole Blue Nile cutting off it's water's from the rest of the Nile until their dam fills. If the Egyptians are stupid enough to blow that dam the downstream surge wave might well collaspe the Aswan. It would also be a lesson in humility to both Egypt and Sudan.

Posted by 3dc 2013-07-21 16:32|| 2013-07-21 16:32|| Front Page Top

#12 #!/usr/bin/perl
print "calculate energy in Aswan Dam
";
#
#assumptions: force of gravity at sea level.
# 132 cubic km of water behind the dam viewed as
# a flat rectanglular solid 111 meters above the dam base
# altitude of dam base is 85 meters above sea level.
#
$g = 9.0665;
$total_mass = 132000000000.0;
$total_drop = 111.0;
$drop_increments = 11100.0;
$drop_count_max = 11100;
$dam_base_altitude = 85.0;
$drop_mass = $total_mass / $drop_increments;
$drop_height_increment = $total_drop / $drop_increments;
$height = 0.0;
$total_energy = 0.0;
for ($drop_count = 0; ($drop_count < $drop_count_max); $drop_count++) {
$height = $height + $drop_height_increment;
$slice_height = $height + $dam_base_altitude;
$drop_energy = $slice_height * $drop_mass * $g;
$total_energy = $total_energy + $drop_energy;
}
print "meters of dam height ",$height,
" Joules of potential energy at the sea: slice ", $drop_energy,
" total ", $total_energy, "
";

Posted by 3dc 2013-07-21 16:38|| 2013-07-21 16:38|| Front Page Top

#13 backslash n's were actualized by Rantburg software in above (they are new lines) code. Bring last quote's in both print statements to the line before and insert a backslash and "n" before the quote.

Posted by 3dc 2013-07-21 16:43|| 2013-07-21 16:43|| Front Page Top

#14 calculate energy in Aswan Dam
At a dam height of meters 111.00000000002 the Joules of potential energy at sea level (med) are : 168,153,292,890,004

Posted by 3dc 2013-07-21 16:52|| 2013-07-21 16:52|| Front Page Top

#15 from a simpler script -the joules at the base of the dam are: 66,427,162,890,004 or 15.9KT

Posted by 3dc 2013-07-21 17:07|| 2013-07-21 17:07|| Front Page Top

#16 simple point is that if they ever lost the Aswan Egypt would have a 15.9 kiloton blast rolling down the Nile to the either the delta or cutting a new river bed to the Red Sea (where the Nile currently makes a hard turn to the West).

Posted by 3dc 2013-07-21 17:11|| 2013-07-21 17:11|| Front Page Top

#17 Turn is at Qena

Posted by 3dc 2013-07-21 17:14|| 2013-07-21 17:14|| Front Page Top

#18 Using the emptying of the MegaLake that left the Great Salt Lake as an example model one might well assume the front wash would reach Cairo in 8 to 10 hours and would last for another 15 hours. So spread the destruction across that timeline.

Posted by 3dc 2013-07-21 17:18|| 2013-07-21 17:18|| Front Page Top

#19 If Egypt was pro-active they would make the equivalent of a "run-away-truck-lane" at Qena. One could envision a dike that would handle normal ebbs and flows but could be overridden by a large flow with a channel behind the dike heading toward the Red Sea.

Posted by 3dc 2013-07-21 17:37|| 2013-07-21 17:37|| Front Page Top

#20 Regarding all of the above information, could we say?

Posted by Au Auric 2013-07-21 17:41|| 2013-07-21 17:41|| Front Page Top

#21 Huh, I'm actually hoping this doesn't happen. All the history and species lost. Then again we can clone the damn species back into life. And we have the internet and photo's, so I suppose everything is backlogged.

Surfs up.

Posted by Charles 2013-07-21 20:44|| 2013-07-21 20:44|| Front Page Top

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