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2013-05-24 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

Obama Serves 14-State Governors With Warnings of Arrest

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Posted by Fred 2013-05-24 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11135 views ] Top

Posted by diebaggerdie 2013-05-24 00:33|| 2013-05-24 00:33|| Front Page Top

#2 Washington DC occupies a very tiny little plot of ground for someone to be threatening/intimidating the biggest states in the Union from. Just goes to show how ignorant the Junior Senator from bankrupt Illinois is.

Posted by Whock de Medici1307 2013-05-24 00:55|| 2013-05-24 00:55|| Front Page Top

#3 Meanwhile ...

* IIRC TOPIX > THE MOST DANGEROUS RADICAL ISLAMIST IN THE WORLD IS ALIVE, WELL, + LIVING IN PENNSYLVANIA.

And apparently seemingly NOT under threat of arrest by the Bammer + Admin.

'Twill be the proverbial "icing on the cake" iff he went to Penn State.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2013-05-24 03:28|| 2013-05-24 03:28|| Front Page Top

#4 hmmmmm perhaps we now know why DHS is buying up all those hollowpoints?

Posted by Frank G 2013-05-24 07:41|| 2013-05-24 07:41|| Front Page Top

#5 They've always been there. Some states have allow them to lapse. Some have been reduced to basically administrative offices.

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

The Constitution doesn't prohibit it. In fact for the Civil War, the national government relied upon the states to provide the bulk of the Union Army.

With the downsizing of the federal military in the Great Peace Dividend at the end of the Cold War, the gutting of the regulars meant that the following conflicts would involve the activation of a significant portion of the Reserves and, particularly, the National Guard. When NG units are federalized and deployed that leaves the states without the manpower and services to address natural disasters and civil unrest. Several states have personally experienced that in the last 10 years of active worldwide military commitments.

If this is real, it needs to be broadcasted to the fullest as a clear sign that there won't be a 2014 election.

Posted by Procopius2k 2013-05-24 08:15|| 2013-05-24 08:15|| Front Page Top

#6 How many of those 14 are Democrats?

Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2013-05-24 09:09|| 2013-05-24 09:09|| Front Page Top

#7 Reply to Rambler in Virginia: Technically One

Mark Brandt Dayton (born January 26, 1947) is an American politician and the current and 40th Governor of Minnesota, serving since 2011. He was previously a United States Senator for Minnesota from 2001 to 2007, and the Minnesota State Auditor from 1991 to 1995. He is a member of the Minnesota DemocraticFarmerLabor Party (DFL), which affiliates with the national Democratic Party.

The other 13 are to the best of my research via wiki, Republican.

Posted by The 7th Dimension 2013-05-24 09:33|| 2013-05-24 09:33|| Front Page Top

#8 If this is real,
Indeed, Procopius; something is peculiar about this story - we should have heard more in the past two weeks if it was as it seemed. Breitbart.com is usually pretty good but maybe this was from some low-level flunky in some casual context or such. It is clearly unconstitutional (but then a lot of stuff is clearly unconstitutional to me but not the Supreme Court) and against all historical precedent.

Posted by Glenmore 2013-05-24 10:13|| 2013-05-24 10:13|| Front Page Top

#9 In essence, the Governors would have "de facto control" of the United States.
That sounds a lot like the federalism our Founders intended.

Posted by Woggut 2013-05-24 10:31|| 2013-05-24 10:31|| Front Page Top

#10 The State Defense Forces have been a feature of the US since before 1776. During WWII practically every state had them, and they were used to replace the National Guard while the National Guard was off fighting the war.

Many, if not most of the people in these units have law enforcement backgrounds and back up the police during natural (or man made) disasters.

Posted by Frozen Al 2013-05-24 10:36|| 2013-05-24 10:36|| Front Page Top

#11 This has nothing to do with Breitbart. It is likely entirely bogus.

Posted by KBK 2013-05-24 10:48|| 2013-05-24 10:48|| Front Page Top

#12 48-hour rule. Sounds bogus....

I don't think even Obumbles nor his masters would be this stupid.

Posted by CrazyFool 2013-05-24 11:04|| 2013-05-24 11:04|| Front Page Top

#13 I agree that this sounds so outrageous to be unbelievable. I really don't see any basis for a charge of treason. The trials would be interesting.

Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2013-05-24 11:57|| 2013-05-24 11:57|| Front Page Top

#14 Sounds like more paranoid ultra-right wing tin foil stuff to me.

Posted by DarthVader 2013-05-24 12:02|| 2013-05-24 12:02|| Front Page Top

#15 Well, yes. Consider the source.

Posted by Pappy 2013-05-24 12:15|| 2013-05-24 12:15|| Front Page Top

#16 NSL's normally are demand letters used to obtain information accompanied by a gag order and normally are not executive orders. Google however went public in a fight against NSL's that demand information on Google customers, email, sites visited, etc..

NSL can be issued from a low level FBI field office manager. It circumvents the Constitutional protection against unreasonable searches.

I would not put it past this POTUS to try to intimidate Governors as the Federal gag order associated with NSL's would intimidate Governors to keep quite about his attempts at disarming the States through incarcerating the states governors.

Its fits his power grab mentality.

Posted by Winky Sproing5899 2013-05-24 12:39|| 2013-05-24 12:39|| Front Page Top

#17 We'll see if the proof is in the pudding. If these states stop any activity around the creation, maintenance or organizational control of SDFs then we can suspect that there is some fire to go with the smoke.

If nothing changes.......

The question is how long do we have to wait?

Posted by AlanC 2013-05-24 13:04|| 2013-05-24 13:04|| Front Page Top

#18 Rambler: on the other hand do you see a case for espionage against James Rosen?

Posted by George Snomoper6213 2013-05-24 13:31|| 2013-05-24 13:31|| Front Page Top

#19 From the next paragraph in the article ... "The two Governors leading this move are: Tim Pawlenty, Governor of Minnesota; and Rick Perry, Governor of Texas."

T-Paw is no longer the Governor here (here = Minnesota). As 7thDim pointed out, the current Gov. here is Mark Dayton.

So, odd? Yeah, odd.

Posted by ExtremeModerate 2013-05-24 17:04|| 2013-05-24 17:04|| Front Page Top

#20 "Contained within the section related to these letters, it is forbidden for anyone receiving a NSL warning to even acknowledge the existence of said communication." How convenient.
I saw this same story several weeks ago, didn't buy it then and not buying it now. Aside from the references to governors no longer in office, does anyone really think that NONE of the governors that supposdly received the letter would hold a press conference about this?

Posted by Chantry 2013-05-24 18:32|| 2013-05-24 18:32|| Front Page Top

#21 It's probably not correct, but it does sound plausible when you consider the ongoing unconstitutional behavior of the Bambi people, and the approval of their leftist lapdogs. >:-(

Posted by Barbara 2013-05-24 18:58|| 2013-05-24 18:58|| Front Page Top

#22 Texas has a large and active state defense force, including training, ops, comm, Air Force (transport), navy (coastal and riverine), and even a Marine force, in addition to the typical Army units. These are in addition to the Guard units.

Posted by OldSpook 2013-05-24 19:29|| 2013-05-24 19:29|| Front Page Top

#23 That's nothing. Georgia has rampaging kudzu and millions of volunteer fire ants.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-05-24 20:16|| 2013-05-24 20:16|| Front Page Top

#24 These sorts of organizations pre-date the Obama administration. In fact, many of them pre-date the formation of the National Guard.

The problem with "Before It's News" is that it tends to be "Before It's Real". I would put them in the same bucket as DEBKA. Fun to read, but probably made up by the person typing up the story.

Posted by crosspatch 2013-05-24 22:45|| 2013-05-24 22:45|| Front Page Top

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