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2013-04-23 Home Front: WoT

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Posted by Besoeker 2013-04-23 02:05|| || Front Page|| [11130 views ] Top

#1 According to the Telegraph, a local police official said "a case file on Tsarnaev was then handed over to the FBI along with a request for further information. However, the FBI never replied."

From Rt.com, last week

There just wasn't anything there

The FBI confirmed Friday that agents had interviewed Tamerlan Tsarnaev and other family members in 2011 at the request of a Russian intelligence agency but did not find any terrorism activity, domestic or foreign, they agency said in a statement on Friday.

"There just wasn't anything there," said a federal law enforcement official who has been briefed on the matter. "We ask that the government get back with us if they develop new information, but they did not. The Russians seemed satisfied, so we closed it."

Posted by Willy 2013-04-23 06:04|| 2013-04-23 06:04|| Front Page Top

#2 Other news stated the FBI was unaware of last year's sojourn by Tamerlan T in Russia. Little has been said about the reverse emigration of his parents from the USA back to Russia, which occurred in 2012.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-23 07:06|| 2013-04-23 07:06|| Front Page Top

#3 There just wasn't anything there

Guess they never looked at any of his immediate family, noticed his beard, bad temper, past violent convictions, took note of his trouble down at the mosque, took any pitchers or vinger prints, spoke to any of his mysteriously deceased [via throat slashing] Jewish pals, lack of employment, heavy weed use, nutcase mom, long-distance father, punk brother, gun collection, or went onto the internets. eh Willy ?

We get hundreds of these per year. These racist Russian terrorist leads are worthless, what do they know about domestic terrorism anyways. Them Chechianiks is good ole boys, they're helping with the Arab Springy thing in Syria. Erik Holler ain't gonna like this stuff. Throw that into the shredder, don't bother to respond. We'll just call er a day.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-04-23 07:23|| 2013-04-23 07:23|| Front Page Top

#4 From the Mercer blogsite:

All the Kings Horses and All The Kings Menthe agencies the government has created to protect usoften possess the requisite information needed to stop or supervise certain characters closely, but opt not to.

For example, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the suspect in the attempted bombing of a Detroit-bound plane on Christmas or 2009. The FBI received advance warning about the 23-year-old Nigerian national, with reported links to al-Qaeda, from no other than his father. This good man the FBI discounted.

Maj. Nidad Hasan, any one? During his secure tenured career as a psychiatrist in the Army Medical Corps, Major Nidal, as he was known, openly proselytize for his faith. Preaching Islam to already traumatized patients did not hinder his rise through the ranks. Read Your Governments Jihadi Protection Program for the extent of the betrayal.

What do Muslim, bomb-carrying boys to do in order to get the attention of the scatterbrained schemers at Homeland Security? Go on Oprah? This is a cry for help!

And YOU want to entrust governmentan entity in which every single incentive to act productively is invertedwith your healthcare.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-04-23 08:40|| 2013-04-23 08:40|| Front Page Top

#5 Like I said yesterday, Was officer Barbrady from South park his FBI case officer?

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2013-04-23 09:42|| 2013-04-23 09:42|| Front Page Top

#6 I doubt it BP. I suspect the OP was handed off or transferred early on. The FBI is probably a convenient cut-out and cover action. Anyone who thinks this file fell on the floor and was forgotten about is totally naïve and misinformed.

Posted by Pliny Omuting5152 2013-04-23 09:48|| 2013-04-23 09:48|| Front Page Top

#7 The level of incompetence and sinecures rises with the level of opacity.

I'd put FBI incompetence above conspiracy every-day.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2013-04-23 11:14|| 2013-04-23 11:14|| Front Page Top

#8 Other news stated the FBI was unaware of last year's sojourn by Tamerlan T in Russia

He reportedly didn't trigger the watch list due to his name being misspelled.

Posted by Pappy 2013-04-23 15:06|| 2013-04-23 15:06|| Front Page Top

#9 What do Muslim, bomb-carrying boys to do in order to get the attention of the scatterbrained schemers at Homeland Security?
They just have to blow up some Americans or kill them in other colorful ways.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-23 15:08|| 2013-04-23 15:08|| Front Page Top

#10 He reportedly didn't trigger the watch list due to his name being misspelled.
Didn't he need his passport to get onto a plane and back into the USA? Is his name spelled differently there? I don't buy that excuse.
Note well: Last Thursday night / Friday morning I was able, using the search term "Dzhokhar Tsarnaev", to find the Russian Facebook equivalent used by him, even though the spelling on that website differs from the name currently being used by the media. Google did a search on variant spellings automatically.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-23 15:12|| 2013-04-23 15:12|| Front Page Top

#11 I'd put FBI incompetence above conspiracy every-day.

BP, those are not mutually exclusive. The venality of bureaucracies can be mind blowing.

Posted by AlanC 2013-04-23 15:15|| 2013-04-23 15:15|| Front Page Top

#12 Other news stated the FBI was unaware of last year's sojourn by Tamerlan T in Russia

Yea right, his ~~Obama~~phone went dead and he just disappeared on us for 6 months and nobody thought ask the family about his absence or give the Russians a heads up. But he skyped on the internets back to the wife once a day from Russia and nobody at Fort Meade picked that up either.

Oh and.... the Russians never thought to tell us the bastid was in country. Then he just fok'ing slipped back in again like a good non US person Chechen and no one noticed. Ok, I got it.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-04-23 16:00|| 2013-04-23 16:00|| Front Page Top

#13 You know, I'm saddened and angry beyond words about the bombing, but I'm even MORE angry that we are continuing to be fed this absolute line of total bullshi* by our own government.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-04-23 16:03|| 2013-04-23 16:03|| Front Page Top

#14 Oh, but they did get a ping -- At the immigration hearing this morning

The system pinged when he was leaving the United States, she said. By the time he returned the matter had been closed, a reference to the FBI investigation of Tamerlan Tsarnaev, based on a tip from the Russian government.
She said, There was a mismatch because his name was misspelled on his Aeroflot airplane ticket. Even with the misspelling, under our current system there are redundancies, and so the system did ping when he was leaving the United States.

But Sen. Lindsey Graham, R- S.C. asked Napolitano,
The system picked up his departure, but did not pick up him coming back -- is that correct? She replied, Thats my understanding.

But she repeated that by then the FBI probe had expired.

Posted by Sherry 2013-04-23 16:45|| 2013-04-23 16:45|| Front Page Top

#15 But she repeated that by then the FBI probe had expired. Posted by Sherry

Oh, so he left suspicious Chechen bad guy worthy of at least some watching and monitoring, but returned from Russia fully redeemed. Ok, I get it.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-04-23 18:00|| 2013-04-23 18:00|| Front Page Top

#16 We will learn lessons from this attack, just as we have from past instances of terrorism and violent extremism. We will apply those; we will emerge even stronger."

Seems we've heard this before. I just can't remember when...

Posted by Pappy 2013-04-23 18:39|| 2013-04-23 18:39|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Marilyn Lover of the Hatfields1778 2013-04-23 19:09|| 2013-04-23 19:09|| Front Page Top

#18 *pfffft* We have a long-standing no rense policy

Posted by Frank G 2013-04-23 20:12|| 2013-04-23 20:12|| Front Page Top

#19 Marilyn, try just inserting a LINK instead of wasting so much of Fred's bandwidth with copy/paste.

If I can figure out how to link (and I can), anybody can do it.

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