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2013-03-06 Home Front: Culture Wars

Conspiracy nut opines about gummint ammo and gunz

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Posted by badanov 2013-03-06 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11127 views ] Top

#1 "We are not scamming the skies for black helicopters" > D ****** STRAIGHT - ITS DRONES + MAN-MADE "UFOS" NOW!

lol.

* TOPIX > [Channel News Asia] OBAMA ADMINISTRATION REFUSES TO RULE OUT DRONE STRIKES ON US SOIL.

As supplemented by ...

* IIRC FREEREPUBLIC > THE NEW SWEDISH/SWEDEN MODEL.

For the future OWG USA in 2015 or ASAP after???

Pertinent Principles are pertinent, Applicable thingys are applicable.

FED/GOVT SOCIALISM = NEW "SOVEREIGNTY" in a borderless, 2015 or post-2015 Amerika suborned to OWG, NAU, + related Trans/Interim. HOW CAN THE POST-OWG, NAU FED SEPARATE LEGIT US CITIZENS-RESIDENTS FROM ILLEGALS OR FOREIGN NATIONALS-WORKERS, OR FIRE A HELLFIRE, ETC. UP OUR ARSES IFF THEY CAN'T RFID US OR SEE US ON SATELLITE OR DRONE INFARED???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2013-03-06 00:25|| 2013-03-06 00:25|| Front Page Top

#2 Leaving all conspiracy theories, real or imagined, aside - my problem with this is that money given to militarized cop to sit in a tank would create infinitely more good if used for paying off the debt or being returned to taxpayers in the private sector.

Posted by no mo uro 2013-03-06 06:10|| 2013-03-06 06:10|| Front Page Top

#3 But, but, but the fellow sitting in the tank [active measure] and "national debt" [passive measure] or both measures or mechanisms of the ultimate goal which is..... CONTROL.

The troglodyte may not have seen a sabre-tooth tiger immediately upon exiting his cave, but that did not mean that he was entirely unaware of their existence or the harm that they could represent.

No doubt electricity was also once, something of a conspiracy.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-03-06 06:38|| 2013-03-06 06:38|| Front Page Top

#4 Some perspective for the civilian side of the house. Scroll down to the posting The Great Ammunition Myth for the comment citing the Army Regulation concerning weapons qualification. By reg, soldiers are required to qualify annually on their weapons. However, certain assignments do not accord the ability to do so because facilities and equipment is not available. That could be recruiting or ROTC duty or specific military installations. Fort Leavenworth comes to mind. It has a disproportionate number of officers to enlisted because of the Command and General Staff college and the Combined Arms Center that develops doctrine for the echelons above brigade. They don't maintain weapons for everyone assigned and those they are there are mainly retained by the assigned military police both of the garrison and the correctional facility. That means most of the some 700 officers (including students) don't do annual qualification. If they want to maintain personal proficiency, they have to do it on their own time and own dime.

The point is that if the Army believes that it can qualify proficiency on a weapon with 40 rounds per year, why is it taking several hundred per 'agent'.

[Before arguing levels of skill necessary, I'd guess that the LAPD requires more than 40 rounds per year and their recent display of gun skill in the shootouts involved in the pursuit of Dorner doesn't seem to justify the rationale]

Posted by Procopius2k 2013-03-06 08:04|| 2013-03-06 08:04|| Front Page Top

#5 LAPD seems to need 40 rounds per target...

Posted by Glenmore 2013-03-06 09:00|| 2013-03-06 09:00|| Front Page Top

#6 Ref LAPD, anyone seen anything addition regarding the unique gun collection possessed by the late Christopher Jordan Dorner ?

Or... anything on the recent illegal sale of firearms by LADP SWAT personnel ?

Story appears to have gone.... dead.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-03-06 09:04|| 2013-03-06 09:04|| Front Page Top

#7 While I regret the story died, I don't that Dorner did.

Posted by Charles 2013-03-06 09:15|| 2013-03-06 09:15|| Front Page Top

#8 Nor am I Charles. What I saw on a teevee news segment was what appeared to be a Remingon Model-70 scoped sniper rifle with a suppressor as well as an AR-15 or M-16 with the same sort of gear. Pretty fancy gear for an unemployed policeman.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-03-06 09:20|| 2013-03-06 09:20|| Front Page Top

#9 Story appears to have gone.... dead.

As is Dorner, as I predicted.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-03-06 13:19|| 2013-03-06 13:19|| Front Page Top

#10 NYPD put their skillz on display recently as well.

I was trying to game a scenario of a gun grab without also investing in aluminum. It went something like this: disaster strikes, area preferably in a sympathetic gun grabber state, apply for federal relief. As a clause, FEMA and other Federal agents can declare the affected area a gun free zone for responder protection and such. Affected citizens have a time frame to turn in all firearms; anyone found in possession of any firearm after the expiration will be considered a looter and/or menace to public safety & responders. Emergency responders will be dutied to confiscate any found firearms as they do door-to-door safety inspections and clearing. No cleanup, entrance into property, or money is released until supervising agent in charge decrees the area weapons-free. Area remains in a state of weapons ban until all federal money is repaid plus expenses and interest. Area agent in charge working with local elected leader(s) can organize a VIP list of those who will be able to possess and carry; could even give them a funny hat or fancy badge, perhaps some sprockets, to identify/set apart so they are not ID'd as looters plus any other enforcement privilages deemed necessary under the circumstances. Of course, if theyz going to use those fancy new rides they would want to place an ambulance decal scheme on it.

Someone please point and laugh at me.

Posted by swksvolFF 2013-03-06 15:53|| 2013-03-06 15:53|| Front Page Top

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