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2013-02-13 China-Japan-Koreas

Washington, Beijing Told of Nuke Test in Advance

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Posted by Steve White 2013-02-13 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11126 views ] Top

#1 It's not window dressing, the Norks don't listen to the Chinese. The Chinese said reform and get rich like we did, the Norks won't have any part of it.

Posted by gromky 2013-02-13 04:38|| 2013-02-13 04:38|| Front Page Top

#2 I wish I could believe that, gromky. But I can't. If the Chinese are so unhappy about it then Clinton/Bush/Obaman wouldn't have been afraid to do something about it. If the Chinese are so unhappy about it why don't they do something? The NORK weapons will be aimed at South Korea, Japan and quite possibly the United States. Why would the Chinese be unhappy about that?

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2013-02-13 11:31|| 2013-02-13 11:31|| Front Page Top

#3 I wonder who (Iran, China) Supplied the nuke, North Korea didn't., they just set it off.

(Pollute somebody else's land, NOT ours.)

Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-02-13 13:37|| 2013-02-13 13:37|| Front Page Top

#4 Interesting point, Jim -- why let the Norks (and the Paks and the Iranians) struggle to reinvent the bomb? I can only guess that it's to keep China's fingerprints off the device.

Posted by Steve White 2013-02-13 13:53|| 2013-02-13 13:53|| Front Page Top

#5 I remember reading that the Nuke's ID could easily be Pinpointed by the detonation alone.

So, they're NOT hiding well.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-02-13 14:01|| 2013-02-13 14:01|| Front Page Top

#6 Once we were informed that they were going to test, why didn't we take the opportunity to drop a multi megaton bomb onto the test site. Just crack out the biggest thing we can find from the 60's load it in a stealth bomber and completely destroy everything there, and kill all their experts.

We can just deny everything, and their programs will be set back decades.

Posted by rammer 2013-02-13 22:51|| 2013-02-13 22:51|| Front Page Top

#7 ION TOPIX > KERRY:[Strong International] RESPONSE TO NORTH KOREA NUCLEAR TEST WILL SEND IRAN A MESSAGE.

* Also from TOPIX > NORTH KOREA NUCLEAR TEST FELT IN DONEGAL [Ireland, to also includ Dublin].

Measured approxim 4.9 on Richter scale according to Ireland's seismic meters.

versus

* WORLD MILITARY FORUM > FM ZHOU XIAOPING: NORTH KOREA'S INTENT BEHIND ITS THIRD NUCLEAR TEST WAS TO OPEN UP CHINA + INDUCE UNILATERAL PRO-NORTH KOREA INTERNAL, TRADE REFORMS + COOPERATION ON THE PART OF CHINA. NUKE-ARMED NORTH KOREA ALSO SERVES TO PROTECT NORTH FROM RIGHT-WING LED SOUTH KOREAN + JAPANESE MILITARY ATTACK AGZ NORTH KOREA WHILE ALLOWING CHINA TO FOCUS ON IMPROVING ITS GLOBAL TRADE. INDUCEMENT OF SOUTH KOREA + JAPAN TO FINALLY END THEIR RELIANCE ON A WEAKENING US + US NUCLEAR UMBRELLA FOR THEIR NUCLEAR SECURITY IN FAVOR OF CHINA + "ASIAN UNION".

* SAME > ANALYSIS: EXPLOSIVE YIELD OF NORTH KOREAN THIRD NUCLEAR TEST ESTIMATED TO BE EQUIVALENT TO 45,000 TONS OF TNT.

* SAME > SIX REASONS WHY CHINA + JAPAN ARE NOW IN A STATE OF WAR.

* SAME > SINO-JAPANESE WAR IMMINENT? US EXPERTS BELIEVE CHINA'S CENTRAL MILITARY COMMISSION AUTHORIZED OR ORDERED SUBORDINATE PLA MILITARY DISTRICT + EAST CHINA SEA FLEET COMMANDS TO IRRADIATE JAPANESE VESSEL + HELICOPTER WID CHINESE VESSEL'S WEAPONS RADAR. INCIDENT RAISES PROBABILITY OF FUTURE SINO-JAPANESE MILITARY CLASHES WHICH MAY LEAD TO FULL-SCALE BILATERAL WAR.

* DAILY TIMES.PK > IRAN SAYS IT HAS BEGUN UPGRADING URANIUM CENTRIFUGES.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2013-02-13 23:34|| 2013-02-13 23:34|| Front Page Top

#8 OOOPPPPSSS, forgot PACIFIC NEWS CENTER > DEPUTY DOD SECRETARY [Ashton]CARTER: SEQUESTRATION THREATENS PACIFIC ALIGNMENTS.

It will have some kind of yet-to-be-determined impact, to include possible final numbers adjustments, but the US at this time remains broadly committed to adhering to its past agreements or promissories wid Pacific Allies e.g. planned redux of USMC presence on Okinawa + reloc to Guam.

IIUC, ADVANTAGE = STILL CHINA, moreso iff USA opposes Nippon + ROK, etc. from dev their own NucWeapons.

I'm also worried because the term "ROLLBACK" was used.

I can hear the USMC at CHOSIN RESERVOIR 1950 = "D *** NG IT, WE'RE NOT RETREATING - WE"RE JUST 'PIVOTING' IN A NEGATIVE DIRECTION"!

So there.

[Once again, HUGO CHAVEZ + ISLAND, LAND-SINKING "EARTHQUAKE/TECTONIC BOMBS" here].

ITS "MAN-MADE" [not]GLOBAL WARMING, THEY TELL YA, ITS "MAN-MADE" [not]GLOBAL WARMING!

Posted by JosephMendiola 2013-02-13 23:58|| 2013-02-13 23:58|| Front Page Top

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