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2012-04-13 China-Japan-Koreas

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Posted by Steve White 2012-04-13 00:00|| || Front Page|| [6 views ] Top

#1 Haw haw haw haw. (points and giggles)
So Solly Rocket go splashy.
Honorable Missile fails, so bad,so solly.
no thurt honerable face, no failt srarving worker fail o bolt sub assembry on,Yes.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2012-04-13 00:33|| 2012-04-13 00:33|| Front Page Top

#2 And with the big Party party tomorrow, as well.

P.S. Jim, Koreans don't substitute L for R. It's the Japanese language that lacks that sound. Japan and Korea are as different as Arkansas and Alabama.

Posted by gromky 2012-04-13 01:30|| 2012-04-13 01:30|| Front Page Top

#3 The ball is now in the Bammer's court - by launching the rocket, the DPRK seemingly put its food aid at risk whether the rocker succeeded or not. Iff the Bammer = USA stops the food aid as threatened, then IMO its going to be a very tensive Summer 2012, vee Iran + DPRK.

PAR FOR THE COURSE/SUMMER? AS THE GOP POTUS RACE COULD STIL END UP BEING A SPLIT TICKET - iff it is a split or brokered ticket, this will be one for the Popcorn.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2012-04-13 01:51|| 2012-04-13 01:51|| Front Page Top

#4 Does anyone who knows anything about anti-missile technology tell us whether the point at which it 'disintegrated' could result from a missile fired from an Aegis or similar system?

Posted by phil_b 2012-04-13 02:12|| 2012-04-13 02:12|| Front Page Top

#5 The point at which it fell apart leads to three possible causes:

Mechanical failure when it reached maximum Q (maximum mechanical stress on the spacecraft due to dynamic pressure from flying through the atmosphere), a failed stage 2 ignition resulting in a controlled destruction, a catastrophic engine failure in either stage 1 or stage 2.

Indications are that the first stage impacted separately from the rest of the spacecraft but that isn't enough to say if stage 1 separation occurred normally or if it just broke apart.

If stage 1 separation was normal, there could have been a problem with stage 2 ignition or it might not have ignited at all resulting in a controlled destruction.

My guess is that someone might be getting a very closeup view of a nuclear test in the next few days.

Posted by crosspatch 2012-04-13 02:39|| 2012-04-13 02:39|| Front Page Top

#6 The failure of the UNHA-III has important Tech ramfications for several countries.

> RUSSIA was repor helping the DPRK dev its Space Rockets + LR Missles.
> The DPRK was repor helping + sharing techs wid both IRAN + PAKISTAN. Pakistan also was helping Iran on its own.
> The DPRK was hoping to use a successful Rocket design for export revenues vee other Third World countries.

IMO THE FAILED UNHA-II HAS ONCE AGAIN [indirectly]PROVEN NEWT GINGRICH CORRECT IN THAT THE US SHOULD RETURN + BUILD A MOON BASE.

Not to argue that Iran, Pakistan's + even Russia's, etc. Ballistic Missles + Space Rockets will absolutely fail but the danger is indeed there.

* FYI DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > [Defector]KIM JONG-IL WARNED NORTH KOREA TO STAY AWAY FROM CHINA IN HIS WILL, as China may prove to be the country North Korea most needs to watch + carefully monitor in coming time.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2012-04-13 03:00|| 2012-04-13 03:00|| Front Page Top

#7 "PROVEN NEWT GINGRICH CORRECT IN THAT THE US SHOULD RETURN + BUILD A MOON BASE."

And Newt can pay for it. We're broke.

Posted by crosspatch 2012-04-13 03:21|| 2012-04-13 03:21|| Front Page Top

#8 And Newt can pay for it. We're broke.

Exploration: either technological, or geographical; always pays off. It's what made your country superpower.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2012-04-13 04:20|| 2012-04-13 04:20|| Front Page Top

#9 Does anyone who knows anything about anti-missile technology tell us whether the point at which it 'disintegrated' could result from a missile fired from an Aegis or similar system?

It was a Zionist hair-rays laser, phil_b.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2012-04-13 04:23|| 2012-04-13 04:23|| Front Page Top

#10 I don't know anything about anti-missile technology, phil b, but I do know a a bit about communist dictatorships: math and the laws of physics are always sacrificed to ideology.

Posted by RandomJD 2012-04-13 07:37|| 2012-04-13 07:37|| Front Page Top

#11 Exploration: either technological, or geographical; always pays off. It's what made your country superpower.

Just ask world-striding Portugal, who was devoured by its empire rather than vice-versa.

I saw someone call the moon landings "the greatest accomplishment of world Communism", that is, if it weren't for the pressure of the Cold War, the moon shot would never have happened. Big-ticket "exploration" is, like most of the Edwardian empires (especially the German one) a sort of assertion of existing power, rather than the source of new power.

Posted by Mitch H. 2012-04-13 08:18|| http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/ 2012-04-13 08:18|| Front Page Top

#12 How hard can this be? It's not like it's rocket sci... oh, wait, yes it is.

Posted by Glenmore 2012-04-13 08:25|| 2012-04-13 08:25|| Front Page Top

#13 the U.S. detected a substantially larger than expected flare

Umm, why do I read this with the addition of "Damn, didn't think that anti-missle missle made such a big bang...or was that the laser?"

Posted by AlanC 2012-04-13 08:42|| 2012-04-13 08:42|| Front Page Top

#14 Should have used the E12-0 as the booster stage, not the A3-4.

Snark of the day.

Posted by Mullah Richard 2012-04-13 10:58|| 2012-04-13 10:58|| Front Page Top

#15 Hat tip to Mullah Richard! Nice -- heh heh!

Posted by Yosemite Sam 2012-04-13 11:52|| 2012-04-13 11:52|| Front Page Top

#16 File under "Things That Are Not As Easy As They Look"

Posted by mojo 2012-04-13 12:03|| 2012-04-13 12:03|| Front Page Top

#17 "Exploration: either technological, or geographical; always pays off. It's what made your country superpower."

1. I agree but we have some much bigger fish to fry right now. Current budget deficits are 10x what they were in 2007, lets get that under control first.

2. Exploration should have some sort of goal. A moon base COULD have a useful purpose. It could serve as a place for astronauts in 0 G for a long time to get used to gravity before returning to Earth. It could also be used as a manufacturing location that works better than 0 G. You can set a tool on a table on the moon and it will stay there. It would make for the ultimate semiconductor fab clean room, too. Great location for doing large scale vacuum deposition type work, etc.

3. Would make a good launch facility for deep space. You get an extra "fling" from the Moons orbit around Earth and you don't have to worry about launch through an atmosphere. A lot of titanium on the moon could mean some manufacturing of the craft could be done there.

There are uses, but there needs to be a use.

Posted by crosspatch 2012-04-13 12:35|| 2012-04-13 12:35|| Front Page Top

#18 Gee, what could be invisible on radar, have pinpoint accuracy, be aircraft based, and cause a second stage malfunction through a high energy hole burned in the missle? Klingon disrupter maybe?

Posted by NoMoreBS 2012-04-13 13:47|| 2012-04-13 13:47|| Front Page Top

#19 Hahahahaha!!!!!

Posted by DarthVader 2012-04-13 13:54|| 2012-04-13 13:54|| Front Page Top

#20 That is funny, Mullah Richard!!!

Posted by Alaska Paul 2012-04-13 16:08|| 2012-04-13 16:08|| Front Page Top

#21 #17 You're not going to close the deficit by living more frugally. You're not going to save your way of life by printing more money. You're not going to take manufacturing (in it's current format) back from the Chinese. Your only hope is ushering in Third Industrial Revolution.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2012-04-13 16:37|| 2012-04-13 16:37|| Front Page Top

#22 I don't disagree with gr(r)omgoru's premises. But Jeremy Rifkin is an alarmist kook whose books have so far all turned out to be wrong. He is also "an adviser to several European Union heads of state," if that says anything about the value of his advice.

Posted by RandomJD 2012-04-13 18:36|| 2012-04-13 18:36|| Front Page Top

#23 Taking back manufacturing is a political act requiring a reindustrialization capitol inventment plan to incentivize the marketplace and escalating tariffs which gradually make currency amipulation and hidden subsidy advantages for china slowly fail. What they own is our debt, policy can control how we pay it to those whose aim is not to earn honest profit, here. To capitulate to not being industrial again is mere foolishness. This hemisphere and out own nation is far more resourced for self sufficiency than anywhere else in the world. Only a post industrial mindset in Washington and on the left hancuffs American reindustrialization.

Posted by NoMoreBS 2012-04-13 18:46|| 2012-04-13 18:46|| Front Page Top

#24 American Juche can make the USA as rich as North Korea!

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2012-04-13 20:45|| 2012-04-13 20:45|| Front Page Top

#25 CHINA refuses to give NOKOR any more Food Aid than as current, + also doesn't want to care for any NOKOR Defectors or Refugees fleeing oer the Yalu to escape their country's hunger + povery - that leaves Pyongyang wid no choice but to bully or intimidate the US-West, etal. into giving them unilateral Food Aid AMAP ASAP ALAP.

Not unlike the former USSR = Soviet Union now Russia vee its Cold War East Eoropean allies [Warsaw Pact], COMMIE CHINA'S BIGGEST FEAR IS NOT NOKOR FIRING AN INDIGENOUS NUKE(S) ACROSS THE DMZ TOWARDS SOKOR + US + JAPAN, OR EVEN RUSSIA, BUT FIRING IT NORTHWARD ACROSS THE YALU AGZ BEIJING + MAJOR CHINESE CITIES + CCCC/CCP.
CHINA = USSR = MUST CONTROL MOST OR ALL OF THEIR ALLY'S OR ALLIES' ARMED FORCES + ADVANCED STRATEGIC, TACTICAL MILTECHS, ESPEC NUCLEAR FORCES [Nukes-WMDS].

CHINA = USSR = may all NOKOR some freedoms or local autonomy, but not + never to the point where they will be able to threaten or destroy China. IT WAS + REMAINS THE "COMMIE WAY".

Iff China thought that Pyongyang had dev a WORKING, RELIABLE, ACCURATE LR NUCLEAR MISSLE
SYS ON ITS OWN, THE FIRST THING CHINA WOULD DO IS FORMALLY TAKE OVER NORTH KOREA, A SCENARIO WHICH NEITHER PYONGYANG OR SEOUL, ETC. WANT.
As said or inferred times before, NOKOR cannot be seen as "too successful" in China's eye as per any dev of potent indigenous military tehcnologies.

HENCELY WE HAVE THE THREAT FROM THE ALLEGED NOKOR "THIRD NUCLEAR TEST", which in all likelihood will be used by NOKOR to demand no cut-off in Food Aid by the Bammer = US-Allies, or more Food Aid, Other from same.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2012-04-13 21:00|| 2012-04-13 21:00|| Front Page Top

#26 China pretends to the World it doesn't control North Korea, the US-World pretend that China is telling the truth about same.

DAT WAY, NO ONE IN NE ASIA OR AROUND THE WORLD GETS TO GLOW-IN-THE-DARK DUE TO MAJOR NUCLEAR WAR AMONG "GREAT POWERS" [Nuke Club].

Posted by JosephMendiola 2012-04-13 21:05|| 2012-04-13 21:05|| Front Page Top

#27 Despite the bluster, you can expect Bammy to still send food. After all, he doesn't bluff.

Posted by USN, Ret. 2012-04-13 21:23|| 2012-04-13 21:23|| Front Page Top

#28 Pharaoh say, aerospace technological advancement "spin-off" products? "Say Wha...?" We don't do it that way in Chicago/Chi-town/ "The Hawk"...
We reject all Cracker innovation, and My Administration will crush it (gently) whenever " The Man" tries to take charge.

Posted by canalzone 2012-04-13 21:59|| 2012-04-13 21:59|| Front Page Top

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