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Is Obama Smart?
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Posted by  2011-08-09 10:07|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ]  Top

#1 No.

Next question, please.
Posted by AlanC 2011-08-09 10:45||   2011-08-09 10:45|| Front Page Top

#2 Relative to what?
Posted by Perfesser 2011-08-09 10:47||   2011-08-09 10:47|| Front Page Top

#3 Not particularly adaptable to changing conditions. Blinded by ideology. So no!
Posted by JohnQC 2011-08-09 10:56||   2011-08-09 10:56|| Front Page Top

#4 You mean all that high-priced education at Columbia and Harvard couldn't fix stupid?
Posted by JohnQC 2011-08-09 11:01||   2011-08-09 11:01|| Front Page Top

#5 Grading is on a curve.
Posted by Eohippus Phater7165 2011-08-09 11:08||   2011-08-09 11:08|| Front Page Top

#6 Praising Obama's intelligence is sort of like saying "Jose's the best hitter in baseball -- it's just that he struck out his last 278 times at bat."
Posted by Matt 2011-08-09 11:18||   2011-08-09 11:18|| Front Page Top

#7 The question isn't whether or not he's smart. The question is whether or not he's doing it on purpose.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2011-08-09 11:32||   2011-08-09 11:32|| Front Page Top

#8 He's definitely smarter than the dipshit he took over from. Deal with it...
Posted by Shakey Steve 2011-08-09 11:43||   2011-08-09 11:43|| Front Page Top

#9 

I agree with Shakey Steve! Lay off our first FOOD STAMP president.
Posted by Besoeker 2011-08-09 11:49||   2011-08-09 11:49|| Front Page Top

#10 He's smarter than a bag of rocks.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2011-08-09 11:52||   2011-08-09 11:52|| Front Page Top

#11 FDR was the 'The Foodstamp President'...do your homework. Unfortunately, 'The Foodstamp Prez' as you refer to Obama, inherited a shit-hole from the previous neocon lapdog dumbass and his cabal of thievious (greed-is-good for AMERICA! (tm)) Gordon Gekko wannabes...
Posted by Shakey Steve 2011-08-09 12:26||   2011-08-09 12:26|| Front Page Top

#12 Dear, dear Mr. Steve. We, too, could say insulting things about the prime ministers you Canadians elected before Mr. Harper, or discuss why so many of your neighbors come south for their healthcare and shopping (you aren't posting from Toronto, so perhaps you can't speak personally of the joys of Buffalo's Walden Galleria and the Niagara Falls outlet center as so many of my Toronto friends do), but we prefer to keep the discourse civil and well reasoned here. But if you feel so keenly, perhaps you ought to move south, get American citizenship, and vote your opinion, eh?
Posted by trailing wife 2011-08-09 13:14||   2011-08-09 13:14|| Front Page Top

#13 
He's definitely smarter than the dipshit he took over from.


BS. Obama's barely capable of riding a bicycle; Bush flew jets. It takes more math and physics to even be allowed into the pilot's seat of a jet Obama's ever taken in his entire life.
Posted by Rob Crawford 2011-08-09 13:35||   2011-08-09 13:35|| Front Page Top

#14 And, Has-the-Shakes-Steve, Gordon Gekko is a fictional character.

(Dr. Dana? Is that you? Are you posting from or through a Canadian IP? Or is the inability to distinguish between fiction and reality that common on the left?)
Posted by Rob Crawford 2011-08-09 13:37||   2011-08-09 13:37|| Front Page Top

#15 And thus the Troll did Bravely Run Away.
Posted by Charles 2011-08-09 13:41||   2011-08-09 13:41|| Front Page Top

#16 Shakey Steve, you certainly are not a member of the Army of Steve.

Now then: as noted, GWB flew an F-102. Care to try? Care to speculate on the intelligence (not to mention nerves, sense and moral courage) required to fly one successfully?

GWB also has an MBA from Harvard. We'll grant that he wasn't the best student at Yale, but as far as I know, Harvard doesn't give out gentleman MBAs. Care to tell us your level of education?

GWB ran a business. Did you?

GWB was twice elected governor of our 3rd largest state. That takes some intelligence, don't you think?

In other words, I gently suggest that you don't know what the fuck you are talking about, and that (I say this soothingly) you're just another liberal fuck-tard whiny bitch who can't face reality.

So, flying to London to join the riots?
Posted by Steve White 2011-08-09 13:50||   2011-08-09 13:50|| Front Page Top

#17 Every con man is smart.
Posted by Muggsy Glink 2011-08-09 13:56||   2011-08-09 13:56|| Front Page Top

#18 At least as much a puppet as a con mnan. The majority of the US electorate wouldn't have bought the crappy con without the media shrieking support for it from the outset.
Posted by Bulldog 2011-08-09 14:25||   2011-08-09 14:25|| Front Page Top

#19 1. Dubya flew ... with the Texas National Guard. Why you ask? So he would escape REAL combat in Viet Nam. Yep, that's quite 'smart'.
2. Good for Georgie...but does that automatically qualify you to be The Big Cheese? Nope. And I have a Masters of Science (Physics & Math). That doesn't qualify me to be PM of Canada, either...but you asked.
3. Yes, with his Nazi granddad's money...a baseball team. Great...
4. No, it actually shows how dimwitted Texans are..

Trust me...American economy keeps going 'south' (no pun intended), I won't have to flew over the big pond to join in the shooting of looters (as I stated on another post 'send in the Army')...But right now, I'm laughing up a storm, sipping cognac, admiring our AAA rating...
Posted by Shakey Steve 2011-08-09 14:29||   2011-08-09 14:29|| Front Page Top

#20 Correction: 'fly' not 'flew'...damn...
Posted by Shakey Steve 2011-08-09 14:32||   2011-08-09 14:32|| Front Page Top

#21 GWB flew with the Texas ANG because they guaranteed that he could be a pilot, which is what he wanted. You may recall that he also volunteered, while in the the ANG, to fly in Vietnam. His request was rejected; the Air Force already had too many pilots.

Being a lawyer also doesn't qualify you to be president. Obama's time as a lecturer at U. Chicago certainly doesn't. Age, prudence, experience, humility are things that DO qualify you; GWB had these, Obama does not.

GWB was in the oil business before the baseball business.

And bringing up grand-dad simply shows you to be an unwitting, uncritical consumer of progressive tropes.
Posted by Steve White 2011-08-09 14:37||   2011-08-09 14:37|| Front Page Top

#22 "And bringing up grand-dad simply shows you to be an unwitting, uncritical consumer of progressive tropes."

LOLs. Yes, lets not dig up any skeletons under the 'Bush-es'...
Posted by Shakey Steve 2011-08-09 14:44||   2011-08-09 14:44|| Front Page Top

#23 as far as I know, Harvard doesn't give out gentleman MBAs.

After a rigorous selection for entrance, Harvard Business School flunks 10% of the first year class. Or at least they did when I was in B-school in the late 80s and I believe that had been the policy earlier when Bush was a student there.
Posted by lotp 2011-08-09 14:53||   2011-08-09 14:53|| Front Page Top

#24 People, People, don't argue with the Moron, it gives him status.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2011-08-09 14:56||   2011-08-09 14:56|| Front Page Top

#25 Who's arguing? We're in school and I'm the teacher...
Posted by Shakey Steve 2011-08-09 14:59||   2011-08-09 14:59|| Front Page Top

#26 Uh huh.

Well, my doctorate is in computational science and what with that and over a decade teaching at the university level, plus now managing advanced research in a major organization, I'll skip your not-for-credit online ego trip. But have fun if it makes you feel important.
Posted by lotp 2011-08-09 15:03||   2011-08-09 15:03|| Front Page Top

#27 "Well, my doctorate is in computational science and what with that and over a decade at the university level, plus now managing advanced research in a major organization, I'll skip your not-for-credit online ego trip."

Oh, the irony...
Posted by Shakey Steve 2011-08-09 15:06||   2011-08-09 15:06|| Front Page Top

#28 BTW, I'd avoid pushing that teaching line with Steve White, too, since he does research at one of the world's top medical schools.

It does make for a certain weary amusement to see your intellectual pretensions however.
Posted by lotp 2011-08-09 15:07||   2011-08-09 15:07|| Front Page Top

#29 Having a Masters Degree, in Science, qualifies you to be in the Duck's Breath Mystery Theater. Perhaps you can revive the company. Though you might want to get some new material.

And HBS MBAs don't exactly flunk out. The screening committee tells those at the bottom of the rankings to take a year or two off in the real world and then decide if they want to return to complete their degree. And some do. It is a pretty intense environment, particularly for those who come directly from college.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2011-08-09 15:13||   2011-08-09 15:13|| Front Page Top

#30 "It does make for a certain weary amusement to see your intellectual pretensions however."

Naaahh, lotp - it's he's just boring.
Posted by Barbara 2011-08-09 15:14||   2011-08-09 15:14|| Front Page Top

#31 Thanks, NS. It used to be 'flunked out', as in 'failing grades recorded on transcripts'. I haven't checked more recent policies.
Posted by lotp 2011-08-09 15:18||   2011-08-09 15:18|| Front Page Top

#32 "Having a Masters Degree, in Science, qualifies you to be in the Duck's Breath Mystery Theater. Perhaps you can revive the company. Though you might want to get some new material."

Now that's funny :) ... touché
Posted by Shakey Steve 2011-08-09 15:19||   2011-08-09 15:19|| Front Page Top

#33 Yes, lets not dig up any skeletons under the 'Bush-es'...

Part of progressive ideology is to blame a person for the sins (real or alleged) of his ancestors. Progressives themselves are excused whatever sins their ancestors committed. That's different, anyone can see that.

In other words, Shakey, who gives a rat's ass what grand-dad did?

You have a complaint about GWB, stick to him.
Posted by Steve White 2011-08-09 15:26||   2011-08-09 15:26|| Front Page Top

#34 Stephens is making a point in his WSJ article that is more than overdue for the left to learn, namely that a certain facile intellectual fluency disconnected from the real world is no more a qualification for political leadership and statesmanship than was the elite degree of athleticism and right-brain / body intelligence demonstrated by GW Bush when piloting one of the dmost difficult-to-fly planes ever controlled by a human pilot without computer aids.

Lots of people flunk out of advanced grad school classes - or did, when grading was enforced, or avoided enrolling in the first place. The consequences of their doing so generally do not rise to the level of lethality, which was a documented hazard of flying F102-A figher/intercepters.

Academic success as a status enhancer teaches over-reliance on assumed cleverness and a tendency to believe one's own cant.

Bush's success as a pilot, which required levels of sensory integration and nerve/muscle response that most of us cannot develop no matter how hard we train, caused him to over-rely on his intuition and personal judgement.

The latter is well recognized. The former is an insight that continues to be bitterly resisted by many on the left, who mistook Obama's scripted platitudes for verbal fluency, a nimble mind and a wise spirit.
Posted by lotp 2011-08-09 15:31||   2011-08-09 15:31|| Front Page Top

#35 a new internet-credentialed pompous talking-points chew toy? Can we keep him?
Posted by Frank G 2011-08-09 15:31||   2011-08-09 15:31|| Front Page Top

#36 They'd rather make accusations-by-association because the people in question aren't here to defend themselves any more. All they have to do is say what "everyone knows" which it turns out everyone doesn't "know."
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2011-08-09 15:34||   2011-08-09 15:34|| Front Page Top

#37 You give credit to Dubya for owning a business yet fail to say that it was his father's and grandfather's money that allowed him to own it in the first place. That's why it is very relevent bringing up his ancesters. It's funny how you give George Jr. so much credit being a 'self-made man' yet give Obama no credit at all for achieving what he has...I wonder what motivates this pathology?
Posted by Shakey Steve 2011-08-09 15:34||   2011-08-09 15:34|| Front Page Top

#38 Smarter than anybody who voted for him.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2011-08-09 15:47||   2011-08-09 15:47|| Front Page Top

#39 If Obama is a "self made man" I'd say he stopped working too soon. He hasn't made anything of himself except a Community Organizer, has never lead at enything, and it shows. He has a very narrow view of society. His education was paid for by others, he never had to work for anything, and he believes the Government is what gives people jobs. All we have is because of the Government. That's where he got it.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2011-08-09 15:54||   2011-08-09 15:54|| Front Page Top

#40 Wow.

Fresh meat!

Who wants tenderizer?
Posted by badanov 2011-08-09 15:57|| http://www.freefirezone.org  2011-08-09 15:57|| Front Page Top

#41 a new nternet-credentialed pompous talking-points chew toy? Can we keep him?

Okay, but the first time I have to feed or water him, he goes back!
Posted by badanov 2011-08-09 16:05|| http://www.freefirezone.org  2011-08-09 16:05|| Front Page Top

#42 *yawn*
Posted by Matt 2011-08-09 16:05||   2011-08-09 16:05|| Front Page Top

#43 
yet give Obama no credit at all for achieving what he has...


I give him credit for being a really effective con-man.

Which is all he is, really. He's not an intellectual. He's not a moral man. He's a thug, a thief, and a deeply hateful man.

(No one who is not steeped in hatred could claim Jeremiah Wright to be their "spiritual guide".)
Posted by Rob Crawford 2011-08-09 16:25||   2011-08-09 16:25|| Front Page Top

#44 Anyone from Chicago who considers themself to be the best in their trade would choose Jordan over Lebron. Period.

Not saying the guy is a dullard, the station speaks for itself, now then why does he lean so heavy upon his speech writers and policy analysts? Why is he the last in the room to get the jokes he tells? Why is it he has nearly everything in his favor and still he fails? If he is so smart how come he did not go about fixing whatever was wrong with W Bush so that he could go about accumulating the same amount of debt and gaffes as it took W Bush 8 years to accumulate - and we all know W Bush was not a penny pincher.

The answer is sales, baby, sales.

The plan was that the Dims had two years to get everything lined up for whoever was going to be the next president after W Bush, outside of a miracle the Dims were going to have Congress and Executive. All they had to do was get it all sold and passed with enough time to take the heat and convince the voters to stick with it. They could not do that because Obama dicked off, him and Paloski were rude, bills got put off in favor of jaunts and olympic bids.

Now work backwards with me, because that shows an utter lack of work ethic. Freshman Senator from Illinois, one of his first acts is to put an ad of himself on prime time football, what is that about? Really, who gives two shakes about a freshman Senator from anywhere?

Where are the people who were bragging that they were lectured to by Obama concerning Consitutional Law - which would be interesting in and of itself pre and post presidency. I'm sure he achieved a certain level of education whether on his own or with the assistance of tutors. His education, with nothing notable outside the classroom and other HVAC safe climates, is theory of theory, photocopies of photocopies. Insular, even he is/was unaware whether what he was tought works in the real world, like the people surprised the LED streetlights iced over.

As they say in Missouri, Show Me.
Posted by swksvolFF 2011-08-09 17:38||   2011-08-09 17:38|| Front Page Top

#45 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anXKnXVm-Kc
Posted by Uncle Phester 2011-08-09 17:50||   2011-08-09 17:50|| Front Page Top

#46 Smart, why he is a SOUPER GENIUS!

Posted by Joger Oppressor of the Lichtensteiners9577 2011-08-09 19:24||   2011-08-09 19:24|| Front Page Top

#47 In 2008, America elected the black Chauncey Gardner.
Posted by Black Charlie Snump6747 2011-08-09 20:20||   2011-08-09 20:20|| Front Page Top

#48 Damn, it's Murat!
Posted by S 2011-08-09 21:02||   2011-08-09 21:02|| Front Page Top

#49 Commer boy, good Murat, it's okay, it's Murat, good, good, where you been? Yeah yeah yeah, sokay, all good. You're home now. Damn your coat sucks, smells like stupid.

LOTP... fetch me the #7 currycomb

Posted by S 2011-08-09 21:05||   2011-08-09 21:05|| Front Page Top

#50 Shakey Steve, do you really want to defend your imbecile POTUS under my pervue? Really?

You defend THAT?

SAMF
Posted by newc 2011-08-09 21:50||   2011-08-09 21:50|| Front Page Top

#51 Since the edumacation level of Rantburgers seems to be a topic of concern, I am pretty sure there are several credentialed engineers and at least one Ivy League science PhD hanging around.
And perhaps the best proof of W's lack of intellect may be that he wangled an assignment flying that F-102 death trap rather than accepting being drafted and assigned to carry bags for politicians or whatever someone of his 'connected' status did.
Posted by Glenmore 2011-08-09 22:16||   2011-08-09 22:16|| Front Page Top

#52 Mr. Sciency and Stuff left us. I bet "Shakey Steve" is a family nickname with a whole lotta history and police reports behind it. Good to see he embraces his present. His past and future observations ar amusing. I always wonder why foreigners engage here, while disputing any aspect of historical American greatness and telling us we should suck it and get used to it. Amusing and amateur. We've had more intelligent and entertaining trolls in the past. This one is a loser Canuck. Let Canuckistan sniper know his ip, he can have a chat with him.
Posted by Frank G 2011-08-09 22:25||   2011-08-09 22:25|| Front Page Top

#53 Since the edumacation level of Rantburgers seems to be a topic of concern, I am pretty sure there are several credentialed engineers and at least one Ivy League science PhD hanging around.

By my count we have three active working engineers, at one time or another another three on top of that, and from many discipline, civil engineering (2), electronic engineering (2), computer engineering (2).

Education level is high.

Practical real word experience, through the roof.
Posted by badanov 2011-08-09 22:54|| http://www.freefirezone.org  2011-08-09 22:54|| Front Page Top

#54 And perhaps the best proof of W's lack of intellect may be that he wangled an assignment flying that F-102 death trap rather than accepting being drafted and assigned to carry bags for politicians or whatever someone of his 'connected' status did.

A lot of individuals joined to avoid being pigeon-holed into something they didn't want, and the military at the time was offering as well. Join and make your choices, or be drafted and take your chances.

That's why Jawn Kerry was so pissed he got a combat assignment as a reservist instead of something closer to his self image.
Posted by badanov 2011-08-09 22:58|| http://www.freefirezone.org  2011-08-09 22:58|| Front Page Top

#55 F-102, notorious. Must be some goldbricker (/sarc) like his father and his Avenger over Kuchi-jima, eh?

Now, give me a man like John Fogarty who joins the reserves to skip the draft, kicks himself kicked out in a year, and sells you that he is a swampman born on the bayou, takes your money to the bank, and complains he should have got more money for his effort.
Posted by swksvolFF 2011-08-09 23:28||   2011-08-09 23:28|| Front Page Top

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