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2011-05-04 India-Pakistan

Bin Laden Raid Revives Debate on Value of Torture

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Posted by Besoeker 2011-05-04 05:13|| || Front Page|| [9 views ] Top

#1 Heard a Seal interviewed last night. He jokingly said Seal training was like torture. Enhanced interrogation seems to have value in getting information.

Posted by JohnQC 2011-05-04 07:59|| 2011-05-04 07:59|| Front Page Top

#2 What we do to high value prisoners is NOT torture. We have enhanced interrogation techniques designed to play on the natural survival instincts we all have hardwired into us. The techniques play on our natural fears.

We also use techniques designed to confuse, befuddle and disorient prisoners to separate them from a firm reality.

What we do with waterboarding, sleep deprivation, disorientation by confusing the body clock, sudden changes in environmental conditions, and attacking cultural taboos is not torture.

Torture is cutting, burning, dislocating joints, beating, tearing flesh, drilling teeth, electroshock and acid. None of those techniques is used.

During the Bush administration, the Democrats tried to discredit his success in the war on terror by calling interrogation, torture. They deliberately chose words of an inflammatory nature to discredit. Holder's threats to prosecute the CIA agents involved was more a public relations campaign to continue the discreditation of Bush and Cheney. I think we owe Leon Panetta at least some credit for going behind closed doors and telling both Obama and Holder to BACK OFF.

Obama knows the techniques were not torture, the Democrats know it is not torture. Their minions in the media do not know anything they have not been told to say.

I was waterboarded in escape and evasion training as an Army officer and I had things done to me in the name of "training" that had they been done to an Iraqi, would have had Skynews, the BBC and Keith Olbermann screaming bloody murder.

Screw em, their noxious words and inflammatory prose now has them in a bind. They have to admit they got OBL through info obtained in the "enhanced" interrogations. They have to admit they used the "Cheney Death Squads" to kill him and they have to admit they used secret wire taps to pinpoint the courier.

Funny how that works out.

BTW, I picked up the monday California edition of the NYT and there was nothing about the hunt and capture of OBL above the fold.

The NYT prolonged this hunt by at least four years.

Posted by Bill Clinton 2011-05-04 10:23|| 2011-05-04 10:23|| Front Page Top

#3 At least Obama won't have to decide to torture bin Laden with waterboarding. He chose the humane path and had the SEALs blow his brains out.

There... no torture issue!

Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2011-05-04 13:16|| 2011-05-04 13:16|| Front Page Top

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