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2011-03-25 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

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Posted by ryuge 2011-03-25 11:12|| || Front Page|| [11135 views ] Top

#1 Not to be snarky here but maybe its because Israel never finishes a job.

Posted by Water Modem 2011-03-25 12:44|| 2011-03-25 12:44|| Front Page Top

#2 Not to be snarky here but maybe its because Israel never finishes a job. Posted by Water Modem

Er huhhhh, "finish the job?" I'm a bit weak on history, just a question or two Modem old boy:

1. The US 2nd Infantry Division, where are they current stationed?

2. Where is the USS Pueblo (AGER-2) docked?

3. Who's desert tent was bombed back in the 1980's?

4. What US - Middle Eastern conflict involving over 500,000 troops lasted only 100 hours?

Posted by Besoeker 2011-03-25 13:09|| 2011-03-25 13:09|| Front Page Top

#3 1. The US 2nd Infantry Division, where are they current stationed? South Korea (HQ), Fort Lewis

2. Where is the USS Pueblo (AGER-2) docked?
USS Pueblo (AGER-2) is an American ELINT and SIGINT[1] Banner-class technical research ship (Navy intelligence) which was boarded and captured by the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) on January 23, 1968, in what is known as the Pueblo incident or alternatively as the Pueblo crisis or the Pueblo affair. Occurring less than a week after President Lyndon B. Johnson's State of the Union Address and only weeks before the Tet Offensive, it was a major incident in the Cold War.

North Korea stated that it strayed into their territorial waters, but the United States maintains that the vessel was in international waters at the time of the incident.

Pueblo, still held by the DPRK today, officially remains a commissioned vessel of the United States Navy.[2] It is currently moored along the Taedong River in Pyongyang, where it is used as a museum ship. It is the only ship of the U.S. Navy currently being held captive

3. Who's desert tent was bombed back in the 1980's?
Muammar Quaddafi, born 1942, near Sirte, Libya, dictatorial leader of Libya since 1969.

4. What US - Middle Eastern conflict involving over 500,000 troops lasted only 100 hours?
Gulf War, the first.

Im not following the point of these questions and their answers--??

Posted by Fi 2011-03-25 13:20|| 2011-03-25 13:20|| Front Page Top

#4 WM, I think we may have a similar idea about something. IDF/Israel could do a lot more to act as a regional force that would police up the middle east and work more outside its boundaries. I think Israel has protected its own assets, and what it really needed much much more than that. A country can remain in it's foxhole for only so long till it becomes blatant that is what it's doing.

Posted by Fi 2011-03-25 13:29|| 2011-03-25 13:29|| Front Page Top

#5 Unfinished business Fi. WM's statement regarding Israel and it's never finishing the job.

Posted by Besoeker 2011-03-25 13:31|| 2011-03-25 13:31|| Front Page Top

#6 Agreed, we have unfinished jobs. Too bad nobody helps us much either. As for Israel, it needs to add more "jobs" to its rotation and get cracking.

Posted by Fi 2011-03-25 13:41|| 2011-03-25 13:41|| Front Page Top

#7 There can only be two solutions to the problem between Israel and its neighbors: the complete destruction of Israel, or the destruction of Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Dubai, a half-dozen other Arab Persian Gulf States, and Libya, so the money supporting the Hamass and Hezbollocks bullies dries up. That would require Israel to use nuclear weapons. WHICH IT HAS, AND HAS HAD SINCE 1972. The next war in the area may result in Israel having to use its nuke weapons against Hezbollah in Lebanon, for lack of any other choice. They could easily end the problem in Gaza with enough bloodshed, but the rest of the world condemns them for even one "civilian" death - the condemnation for killing hundreds of thousands would be thousands of times worse. The Western world needs to learn from the Israel/Arab war that there is no such thing in Islam as a "civilian" - only a non-uniformed combatant. That includes women and all children over the age of ten. The Western world is full of ignorant children in politics that need to grow up.

Posted by Old Patriot 2011-03-25 14:17|| 2011-03-25 14:17|| Front Page Top

#8 With OP's permission, I'd like to add Pakistan to the list of destructables.

Posted by Besoeker 2011-03-25 14:24|| 2011-03-25 14:24|| Front Page Top

#9 The Arabs expend their interest, floods of useless cannon fodder and weapons easily replaced by oil money. They never expend, and Israel never forces them to, their principle.
This can go on, for the Arabs, forever.

Posted by Richard Aubrey 2011-03-25 14:31|| 2011-03-25 14:31|| Front Page Top

#10 An addendum- the issue is not whether Israel will be ranked on for taking out the scumz- just whether Israeli policymakers will continually let reprisal factor in to their strategy. Israel could learn from the U.S.- if we're not doing something that is condemned by the international community we are not doing anything at all. Lead the way USA!

Posted by fi 2011-03-25 14:33|| 2011-03-25 14:33|| Front Page Top

#11 This can go on, for the Arabs, forever.

The oil will run out in a few decades. Then all they have to sell is bile.

Posted by Crerenter Unairong2430 2011-03-25 15:02|| 2011-03-25 15:02|| Front Page Top

#12 This can go on, for the Arabs, forever.

Nope. Look at them running amok because of raising food prices (and not any freedom/schidom) right now.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2011-03-25 16:45|| 2011-03-25 16:45|| Front Page Top

#13 grom.
Hope you're right. But see, say, The Camp of The Saints. What if the scum bosses figure out a way to aim their easily-misled mobs toward Israel in the tens of thousands.
See, also, in the Iran-Iraq war, sending armies of kids with plastic keys ("key to heaven, son) across Iraqi minefields.

Posted by Richard Aubrey 2011-03-25 17:48|| 2011-03-25 17:48|| Front Page Top

#14 There can only be two solutions to the problem between Israel and its neighbors:...or the destruction of Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Dubai, a half-dozen other Arab Persian Gulf States, and Libya, so the money supporting the Hamass and Hezbollocks bullies dries up.

Works for me!

They could easily end the problem in Gaza with enough bloodshed, but the rest of the world condemns them for even one "civilian" death - the condemnation for killing hundreds of thousands would be thousands of times worse.

Then go for the gusto and kill a few million, shock them into silence and let the bleating hand wringers know there are enough prizes in the box for them to have some too.

Way past time to go Dark Ages on these wastes of oxygen. Lets dance.

Posted by Secret Asian Man 2011-03-25 20:10|| 2011-03-25 20:10|| Front Page Top

#15 It's too late now that Mubarak is out... but ... in my humble opinion.. here is what should have happened at the end of Cast Lead...
1) acknowledgment that much of the material support comes from tunnels under the sand and sandstone on the Gaza/Egyptian border.
2) Cutting that water way Ariel Sharon wanted along the Egyptian border from Israel to sea. This would saturated the sandy land the tunnels run under with water making the utility of the tunnels very questionable.
3) digging a ditch from the end point of that waterway to the Dead Sea putting a hydro dam on it. The pressure from the damn being used for power (head) to convert some of the sea water to pure drinking water via reverse osmosis. This could be used to irrigate the Negev desert and for Israel's cities and villages.
4) the water flowing to the Dead Sea would rescue that sea.
So... more water would be available for Gaza to but a backdoor war material path drowned.

The audacity of such a brave water improvement project could be sold as a great humanitarian gesture after an episode of war... and the positive strategic gain of destroying the tunnel routes... swept into obscurity....

So.. yes .. Israel needs to learn how to think trickier.... and finish a point to its advantage..

Posted by Water Modem 2011-03-25 21:23|| 2011-03-25 21:23|| Front Page Top

#16 Nice Water Modern - #Bibi.

Posted by newc 2011-03-25 22:54|| 2011-03-25 22:54|| Front Page Top

#17 "Rearm + regroup..." > thats because they usually do.

And its not getting any easier for Tel Aviv...

To wit,

* NEWS KERALA > MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD IN DEAL WID MILITARY FOR HIGH ROLE IN POST-REVOLUTION EGYPT?NYT quoting ELIJAH ZARWA of the International Crisis Group think-tank.

* CHINESE MIL FORUM > [Daily Star.CA OpEd] MALLICK: WILL LIBYA [finally]BREAK THE AMERICANS' BACK? Economic straw + Vietnam-style failures in Islamic Regions = final catalyst for the USA???

* PEOPLE'S DAILY FORUM > [CNN Poll]FEW AMERICANS SEE OBAMA AS A STRONG DECISIVE LEADER. Only 17% of 975 Amers surveyed.

ARTIC = IIUC, POTUS BAMMER is described or perceived as a great Consensus-builder = Consultant POTUS that unfortunately in the end takes no action in suppor of the final Group-Think unless forcibly shoved into the fray???

* DAILY TIMES.PK > [Mass]PROTESTS SPREAD AGZ ASSAD RULE IN SYRIA.

Protestors in DERAA, SYRIA criticize ASSAD CLAN, GOVT-REGIME FOR ROUTINELY FAILING TO RECAPTURE THE GOLAN HEIGHTS FROM ISRAEL, demand that brother MAHER AL-ASSAD + his eliet REPUBLIC GUARD USE THEIR MIL STRENGTH = FIREPOWER TO FIGHT ISRAEL, NOT THE PROTESTS.

* SAME > AL QAIDA SNATCHED [stole] MISSLES [ADMS = SAMS, other Mil Arms]IN LIBYA:CHADIAN PRESIDENT.

AQIM, as per Anti-Gaddafi Chadian President Idnss Deby Itno.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-03-25 23:27|| 2011-03-25 23:27|| Front Page Top

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