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2010-12-25 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

Mannings health deteriorates in US military brig

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Posted by gorb 2010-12-25 01:36|| || Front Page|| [11133 views ] Top

#1 Much as I enjoy the thought of hearing about Bradass suffering, I do think there is more to the story.
I don't think a lowly private could have his hands on that much classified material. There has to be other higher-ups involved as well.

Posted by Mikey Hunt 2010-12-25 02:20|| 2010-12-25 02:20|| Front Page Top

#2 He was a SP4. And Mikey, you're wrong about access.

Posted by OldSpook 2010-12-25 02:27|| 2010-12-25 02:27|| Front Page Top

#3 Reportedly he was a PFC at a FOB East of Baghdad. At first I also thought it was odd that someone at a tactical base would have access to things of a more strategic nature until someone clued me in to an information sharing system that was available to practically the entire intelligence community.

So he was able to peruse it at will copying whatever he wanted and nobody was keeping track of who was accessing what, apparently.

Posted by crosspatch 2010-12-25 04:31|| 2010-12-25 04:31|| Front Page Top

#4 Even with intel sharing, Manning should not have had access to those diplomatic cables en masse. Multiple streams of info cross that classified network, but are generally segregated so that different people only have access to some streams.

However, the State Dept. failed to mark their cables with the correct classification, so they got routed with other classified materials. Manning (and others) got access to them as a result. He was the only traitorous scumbag to copy and distribute them however, so far as we know.

Posted by lotp 2010-12-25 08:17|| 2010-12-25 08:17|| Front Page Top

#5 If Mr. Assange did indeed have a backdoor into the DoD twenty or so years ago, he could have collected the older information himself... not to mention guiding Pvt. Manning's efforts.

Posted by trailing wife 2010-12-25 08:29|| 2010-12-25 08:29|| Front Page Top

#6 As bad as Mannings actions were, his superiors should not get away Scot free for failing to know and check what their underlings were doing. Responsibility would mean that a higher up or many higher ups should be accountable and held to account as well.

Posted by Fire and Ice 2010-12-25 08:42|| 2010-12-25 08:42|| Front Page Top

#7 Perhaps it is not the conditions of confinement that are eating away at his health. Perhaps Manning is developing a conscience about what he did.

Posted by rjschwarz 2010-12-25 08:58|| 2010-12-25 08:58|| Front Page Top

#8 Maybe he thinks he'd be happier and healthier out in the general population of the brig? He may be in solitary for his own protection (and the military's) as much as anything else.

Posted by Glenmore 2010-12-25 10:09|| 2010-12-25 10:09|| Front Page Top

#9 Or, more likely, he's developing some degree of apprehension about what's going to happen to him.

Posted by Steve White 2010-12-25 10:11|| 2010-12-25 10:11|| Front Page Top

#10 "Perhaps Manning is developing a conscience about what he did."

Naaaahhhhhhh.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2010-12-25 10:34|| 2010-12-25 10:34|| Front Page Top

#11 He's pining away for his old boyfriend.

Posted by Muggsy Glink 2010-12-25 11:58|| 2010-12-25 11:58|| Front Page Top

#12 I know it's Christmas, but is this supposed to bother me?

Posted by tu3031 2010-12-25 12:00|| 2010-12-25 12:00|| Front Page Top

#13 Check again after New Year's.

Posted by gorb 2010-12-25 12:51|| 2010-12-25 12:51|| Front Page Top

#14 Or release him into General Population and 'leak' who he really is....

Posted by CrazyFool 2010-12-25 13:23|| 2010-12-25 13:23|| Front Page Top

#15 He has finally figured out that while he did most of the heavy lifting, it Assange thats getting all the chicks...

Posted by Capsu78 2010-12-25 13:31|| 2010-12-25 13:31|| Front Page Top

#16 Assange thats getting all the chicks...

I would think Manning would be more interested in Assange than the chicks.

Posted by badanov 2010-12-25 14:07|| http://www.freefirezone.org 2010-12-25 14:07|| Front Page Top

#17 "Even with intel sharing, Manning should not have had access to those diplomatic cables en masse. Multiple streams of info cross that classified network, but are generally segregated so that different people only have access to some streams."
There is a lot of security where I work. However, what I have seen is that blanket security access is granted only to the most senior people and janitors.
Nobody pays attention to these people and that's when we get into trouble.

Posted by Injun Cleque4729 2010-12-25 15:08|| 2010-12-25 15:08|| Front Page Top

#18 According to charges Assmange might not be 'getting' the chicks as much as 'taking' the chicks....

Posted by CrazyFool 2010-12-25 15:13|| 2010-12-25 15:13|| Front Page Top

#19 and janitors.

Dont knock janitors. Most (in fact ALL where I work) who work in my govt agency have passed a CBI, are fingerprinted, and work for a living. Im not going to start insulting my betters in the "senior" intel community...but pushing paper and riding a desk springs to mind as occupational hazards.

Posted by Fire and Ice 2010-12-25 21:38|| 2010-12-25 21:38|| Front Page Top

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