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2010-11-27 China-Japan-Koreas
Analysis: Nork shelling, USS George Washington and China
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Posted by gorb 2010-11-27 02:25|| || Front Page|| [4 views ]  Top

#1 ahh but i read today that China has already protested against the sending of the USS George Washington

so unfortunately the natural justice or moral argument that China would have to bite its tongue... does not work in practice

China doesn't have to be fair, it just does what the hell it wants as a belligerent, aggressive new power feeling its oats, like Germany circa 1937

Sadly ... Sydney Morning Herald reported this morning that...

"China's Foreign Ministry said it was ''concerned'' after the US said it would send an aircraft carrier strike group into the Yellow Sea.

The nuclear-powered carrier USS George Washington, which will be accompanied by the cruiser USS Cowpens and the destroyers USS Lassen and USS Stethem, will carry more than 6000 sailors and 75 aircraft into the sensitive region.

''We oppose any act that undermines peace and stability on the peninsula,'' a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman said, echoing the Premier, Wen Jiabao, who urged ''restraint'' and an end to ''provocative military acts''

link is here:
http://tinyurl.com/22m7g8a
Posted by anon1 2010-11-27 03:08||   2010-11-27 03:08|| Front Page Top

#2 An entirely different tone than had the Norks done nothing, I think.
Posted by gorb 2010-11-27 03:48||   2010-11-27 03:48|| Front Page Top

#3 This should provide many entertaining opportunities for interested parties to play a little cat & mouse. Hope no one gets carried away!

And speaking of carried away, I can't help wondering (hypothetically speaking, of course) whether a carrier battle group and a couple of Ohio class subs carrying TLAMs would provide enough assets to decapitate NKor and neutralize anything within artillery range of Seoul before the city took a pounding. Hypothetically speaking, of course.
Posted by SteveS 2010-11-27 03:53||   2010-11-27 03:53|| Front Page Top

#4 I agree, gorb. The protest was rather half-hearted.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2010-11-27 08:49||   2010-11-27 08:49|| Front Page Top

#5 i will be very curious to see what happens next.... don't think we are on the brink of war in the koreas but you know, every now and then the world surprises you

i would watch the futures and options markets.... somebody always knows in advance and if they lay their bets they make a big profit.

isn't that what happened for al Q shorting airline stocks and making millions off 9/11?

if china has given the green light to NK for more action it should show in the markets for those that know how to look (sadly i do not know how to pinpoint suspicious activity in this)
Posted by anon1 2010-11-27 08:59||   2010-11-27 08:59|| Front Page Top

#6 ...fortunately, there are no visiting Austrian Archdukes in the area. However [the infamous However]...let us not forget it was the posturing bureaucrats playing the 'game' that would make a charnel house of world by lighting the fuse that resulted in hundreds of millions of deaths in the first half of the twentieth century.
Posted by Procopius2k 2010-11-27 09:12||   2010-11-27 09:12|| Front Page Top

#7 ''We oppose any act that undermines peace and stability on the peninsula,'' a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman said,

Except when WE do it, he added hastily.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2010-11-27 12:32||   2010-11-27 12:32|| Front Page Top

#8 Too bad the "Rods from God" system is not available, Drop one on Kimmie's Palace an watch the Groveling Commence.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2010-11-27 12:35||   2010-11-27 12:35|| Front Page Top

#9 I can't help wondering ... whether a carrier battle group and a couple of Ohio class subs carrying TLAMs would provide enough assets to decapitate NKor and neutralize anything within artillery range of Seoul before the city took a pounding.

I don't think so. The Norks have a lot of artillery pieces dug into the high ground on their side of the border. Think big, heavy guns and rocket launchers. They have had a lot of time to dig well into the mountains and hills. They've also used the time to set up a lot of camouflage and dummy sites.

Even if we had our 'A' game going it would take a while to neutralize them all.

I am told that an artillery piece can fire four rounds a minute even if it's being served by 'C' category, malnourished troops. Think a few thousand guns at four rounds a minute and the effect on Seoul and its suburbs.

Catastrophe.

So no, I wouldn't look for a decapitation scenario anytime soon. Only way to stop those guns is to bribe/convince the local and regional commanders not to give the orders to fire.
Posted by Steve White 2010-11-27 12:45||   2010-11-27 12:45|| Front Page Top

#10  "Rods from God"
Hot damn!
Let 'er rip!
Posted by Goldies Every Damn Where 2010-11-27 14:10||   2010-11-27 14:10|| Front Page Top

#11 There is going to be a war on the Korean
Peninsula. It is just a matter of when not if.
Posted by Fire and ice 2010-11-27 14:58||   2010-11-27 14:58|| Front Page Top

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