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2010-11-17 Home Front: WoT
What's Next From TSA, Mandatory Body Cavity Searches
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Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2010-11-17 02:48|| || Front Page|| [2 views ]  Top

#1 Close! Check this out:

TSA Now Putting Hands Down FliersÂ’ Pants
Posted by gorb 2010-11-17 03:10||   2010-11-17 03:10|| Front Page Top

#2 Just travel with a burka. Big Sis Nappy has already indicated that if you dress like an Islamic fundamentalist woman, the "pat down" consists of a head stroking....no body touching.

Or if you are a guy, travel in a kilt, Scottish-style. Porn noises optional.
Posted by Swamp Blondie 2010-11-17 05:57||   2010-11-17 05:57|| Front Page Top

#3 I wonder what would happen if a guy with no modesty stripped down to his boxer shorts before going through the scanner. Would TSA agents still require a body search?
Posted by Rambler in Virginia  2010-11-17 07:34||   2010-11-17 07:34|| Front Page Top

#4 TSA is yet another failed or about to fail federal works program. One should not expect independent thinking, professional conduct, or the exercise of reasonable searches from this agency. The crux of the problem lies in simple governmental denial; the denial of precisely what group of vermin are, and continue to be the problem. If you accept the premise that in one way or another "all terrorism is state sponsored" or has a state component, then what have we done about it? Neither Sweden or Norway brought us 9/11. Hirohito and his suicide bomber thugs never botherd us again after August 6th, 1945. Let's drop the denial and clean it up!
Posted by Besoeker 2010-11-17 07:39||   2010-11-17 07:39|| Front Page Top

#5 Every grope is creating another member for the Tea Party that's for 'smaller government'. You go girl! The most effective recruiting message in years.
Posted by Procopius2k 2010-11-17 08:42||   2010-11-17 08:42|| Front Page Top

#6 I travel infrequently and find the entire TSA apparatus a complete waste of time. The seem preoccupied with lecturing travelers about the correct amount of hand lotion they can take or if they have a pair of cuticle scissors. IMHO this WILL NOT stop a terrorist attack. As a matter of fact there no record of the TSA ever stopping a would be terrorist. So all the shoe removal, contents searches, and "special screenings" have accomplished NOTHING. And by the way they are about to unionize and probably demand a huge pay/benefits package.
Posted by Cyber Sarge 2010-11-17 09:05||   2010-11-17 09:05|| Front Page Top

#7 Rambler quite a few in Germany did just that in the past week
Posted by Beavis 2010-11-17 09:20||   2010-11-17 09:20|| Front Page Top

#8 Quick thought on the TSA: perhaps our President and his like-minded thinkers have been saying to themselves, "how can we discourage air travel? It causes global warming with all those danged jets spewing millions of tons of carbon dioxide into the air, and those little people, unlike us, have no reason to travel. How can we persuade them not to fly?"

At which point some staffer puts up her hand and says, "oh, oh, I know, I know! Pick me, pick me!"

The rest is history.
Posted by Steve White 2010-11-17 09:28||   2010-11-17 09:28|| Front Page Top

#9 ...The Mrs and I have been having an..um..sprited discussion on this over the last few days, but we agree on one thing: the next terr to get caught - or explode - will be clearly seen on camera going through a scanner, and passing with flying colors.

The ONLY way that works is the Israeli model. And that involves profiling, which requires an acknowldgement of reality apparently beyond our leadership.

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2010-11-17 09:48||   2010-11-17 09:48|| Front Page Top

#10 I heard a tip / news report video that if you ask at the ticket counter if your child has been 'selected' for a random search you can have them deselected. This same report also mentioned that the 'selection' is indicated on the ticket and is not really (or not only) done at the gate.

If this is true then all a terrorist would have to do is look at their tickets and select one which doesn't have the 'special mark'. And you know that since CAIR gets regular guilded tours of airport security that they know exactly what to look for.
Posted by CrazyFool 2010-11-17 09:49||   2010-11-17 09:49|| Front Page Top

#11 I know I defended the reason and procedure the other day..the execution...well..another Napoleontini classic explanation. Anyone with half a thought considered that the images would be coupled with photos until at least the plane landed.

OK, some of you had planned to fly over the next 2 months, I'm sure you had your tickets ordered by now. Did anyone receive an e-mail or other heads up about the new procedures? I would think that if flying were to be discurage by this means it would have been implemented a month ago before people bought tickets. This is just going to piss people off.

I just wish that people were getting pissed at the right bad guys. TSA is reacting, why not get mad at the real culprits, the ones who have created this situation rather than going and hiding behind the walls of Athens. Yes, deal with the symptons, but what about the ailment?
Posted by swksvolFF 2010-11-17 09:58||   2010-11-17 09:58|| Front Page Top

#12 The TSA is a symptom, and an ailment. They are a test balloon for whether or not the American public is ready to accept a state with total control. They need to go away.
Posted by gorb 2010-11-17 10:36||   2010-11-17 10:36|| Front Page Top

#13 TSA is a FAILED gov't solution. Here's yet another:

The Sierra Club and the U.S. Forest Service were presenting an alternative to the Wyoming ranchers for controlling the coyote population. It seems that after years of the ranchers using the tried and true method of shooting or trapping the predators, the Sierra Club had a "more humane" solution to this issue.

What they were proposing was for the animals to be captured alive. The males would then be castrated and let loose again.

This was ACTUALLY proposed by the Sierra Club and by the U. S. Forest Service. All of the ranchers thought about this amazing idea for a couple of minutes. Finally an old fellow in the back of the conference room stood up, tipped his hat back and said;

"Son, I don't think you understand our problem here", "These coyotes ain't f*ckin' our sheep - they're eatin' 'em!"

You should have been there to hear the roar of laughter in that room. The meeting never really got back on track.
Posted by Besoeker 2010-11-17 10:44||   2010-11-17 10:44|| Front Page Top

#14 The TSA is going about this from the wrong end. Except for 9/11, all the terrorists and bombs have originated OUTSIDE the United States. That means they boarded/loaded the plan in another country that doesn't have the stupid TSA. Which also means that for all the flurry of activity, the TSA has not stopped shit. They are the proverbial monkey fucking a football. There is a hell of a lot of movement but nothing is getting accomplished.

Xray of the luggage and a metal detector is enough in the US for boarding. Armed air marshals, pilots and pissed off passengers complete the security screen. We do not need or want scanners or pat downs as they are completely worthless.
Posted by DarthVader 2010-11-17 11:38||   2010-11-17 11:38|| Front Page Top

#15 #14 - Were you referring to armed pilots / flight crew? That was authorized by Congress many years ago. However, as far as I can tell, the executive branch DID NOT implement that, and even got in the way of doing something potentially useful.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2010-11-17 12:27||   2010-11-17 12:27|| Front Page Top

#16 is the country on your passport a muslim one?
Then body search

Is your first name Mohammad?
Then Body search

Are you wearing a burka?
Then body search

Do you look vaguely mid-eastern
Then body search..

Just use normal scanners on everybody else.
Posted by Water Modem 2010-11-17 15:32||   2010-11-17 15:32|| Front Page Top

#17 Maybe TSA should start offering a "Happy Ending" option for another $20. After all, if it ain't sexual assault when the guvmint does it, then it ain't prostitution either.
Posted by Iblis 2010-11-17 15:35||   2010-11-17 15:35|| Front Page Top

#18 Body cavity searches? Barney Frank is going to become a frequent flyer.
Posted by anymouse 2010-11-17 15:55||   2010-11-17 15:55|| Front Page Top

#19 The next step in TSA airport security. NSFW
Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2010-11-17 18:35||   2010-11-17 18:35|| Front Page Top

#20 Just for the record, the reason the TSA and the airport security forces in other countries, started confiscating liquids over X ounces/milliliters was because there was a plot to blow up airplanes over the Atlantic using the Mother of Satan explosive assembled in airplane bathrooms from several liquids bottled separately. By confiscating our shampoos and mouthwashes, the plot was stymied. As I recall, there were also a number of quiet arrests in Britain connected to the plot. It'll be in Rantburg's archives, I'm sure.

TSA inspections are intrusive and annoying, yes. Nobody else does anything like this, agreed. Perhaps that's why the jihadis send their suiciders in our direction from out there, where it's easier to get bomb-laden vicious idiots onto the airplanes... not to mention bomb-laden computer printers.

Beyond that, I'd love to see Israeli style security interviews for passengers. Figure on getting to the airport a few more hours before the flight, though, having absolutely no possibility of escape once you've caught their notice, and cavity searches should they decide for whatever reason to do so. Don't bother questioning what their profiling basis is when they choose you, either -- converts to Islam don't necessarily have the name, nationality, or appearance of the stereotypes, and they've been known to use kufr innocents as unwitting mules. Checking Granny and the baby are both good ideas, as well as the pretty, blond, pregnant lady.
Posted by trailing wife 2010-11-17 18:45||   2010-11-17 18:45|| Front Page Top

#21 I just wish that people were getting pissed at the right bad guys.

They are. The government of the United States presently poses by FAR the largest threat to the liberty of the American people.
Posted by AzCat 2010-11-17 18:56||   2010-11-17 18:56|| Front Page Top

#22 TW

As the jihadi's somewhere in a cave snuggle to their favorite goat they must be laughing their ass off.

As we spend tens of billions on security and look forward to the new 67,000 strong TSA union I feel little comfort in having my Junk fondled, especially here in SF. The people on Castro Street have to think they've died and gone to heaven.
Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2010-11-17 19:57||   2010-11-17 19:57|| Front Page Top

#23 I know. Here I was thinking things were just tightening up after the shipping planes and with bigtime travel coming up. I figure the policies and guidelines come all the way from the top so point there, not necessarily the uniform executing those orders - though bad behavior there could be a result of poor middle management. But with the push of the employee union, they can all go piss on a rope. I know how it can be made worse, make it so you cannot hold accountable the jackass instead of the guy doing his job on account of a union in a government position.

I will say to any airport people out there considering the opt-out, I may let someone take a picture of my ass but you have already lost all the females in my family.
Posted by swksvolFF 2010-11-17 21:12||   2010-11-17 21:12|| Front Page Top

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