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2010-09-29 Home Front: Culture Wars

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Posted by Mike 2010-09-29 08:02|| || Front Page|| [11126 views ] Top

#1 If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles.
If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat.
If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
- Sun Tzu

Their demonstrative inability to grasp the Tea Party puts them in the second descriptive. Their inability to see their own intolerance and bigotry while engaged in Freudian projection upon the Tea Party, puts them in the third descriptive.

Posted by Procopius2k 2010-09-29 09:10|| 2010-09-29 09:10|| Front Page Top

#2 Read the comments in the Times for a hilarious rendering of all the LLL talking points, biases and condescension. It really demonstrates exactly what Fish was talking about.

Posted by Alan Cramer 2010-09-29 09:24|| 2010-09-29 09:24|| Front Page Top

#3 Quite frankly, I love to hear them bloviate, these leftest loons. It signals their pending DOOM!

Posted by Besoeker 2010-09-29 09:28|| 2010-09-29 09:28|| Front Page Top

#4 It is not just elitist politicians but the elitist media. Its almost to the point that if the usual folks support someone the masses are willing to give that someones opponent a fair hearing and probably a vote.

Posted by rjschwarz 2010-09-29 09:33|| 2010-09-29 09:33|| Front Page Top

#5 The democrats and their operatives in the media are circling the wagons as evidenced by this latest hit piece on the Tea Party in Rolling Stone magazine:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/210904?RS_show_page=0

Posted by eltoroverde 2010-09-29 09:56|| 2010-09-29 09:56|| Front Page Top

#6 The tea party is just a small manifestation of the frustration and anger the average American feels. If the new blood that was voted in during the 2010 swell don't bring some fiscal sanity back to government, the anger we see now will be nothing compared to what will happen between 2011-2012. I shudder to think of what might happen.

Posted by DarthVader 2010-09-29 10:29|| 2010-09-29 10:29|| Front Page Top

#7 Alan's right - I read the comments section - the typical NYT reader doesn't get it - even after Mr. Fish tried to break it down Barney style for them. They accuse the Tea Party of being intolerant, best look in the mirror libtards.

Posted by Broadhead6 2010-09-29 11:16|| 2010-09-29 11:16|| Front Page Top

#8 eltoroverde - nice find wrt Rolling Stone(d) article. Their magazine has been shit for at least 15yrs imho. Matt Taibbi is a huge douchebag. Liberal frat boy who thinks he's the foul-mouthed version of john leibowitz stewart. He was on Bill Maher once a few yrs back when Iraq surge was full swing. An ill Tony Snow was the lone conservative on the panel and he demolished Taibbi whose emotional anectdotal claims didn't hold muster vs a dispassionate and highly articulate Snow.

Posted by Broadhead6 2010-09-29 11:25|| 2010-09-29 11:25|| Front Page Top

#9 Instead, engage them as if you thought that the concerns they express (if not their forms of expression) are worthy of serious consideration, as indeed they are. Lift them up to the level of reasons and evidence and see how they fare in the rarified air of rational debate where they just might suffer the fate of Antaeus.

Fish suggests that dismissive rhetoric towards Tea Party subscribers will be perceived as elitist. Yet, ironically, he petitions Democrats and their allies to advance a more mature approach. Much like a counselor would advise parents with a delinquent child. Its quite telling that Fish is unwilling to rebuke the actual merits of the debate just the process. Fishs admonition is nothing more then damning with faint praise. And in and of itself elitist.

Posted by DepotGuy 2010-09-29 11:58|| 2010-09-29 11:58|| Front Page Top

#10 The comments are great. I considered leaving one of my own, suggesting that perhaps we conservatives could do a favor of providing 'key words' with definitions that the liberals could use to connect with us neanderthals. You know, like a dictionary or a translation. Here, try some of these (I'm leaving off the definitions; I was going to use ~~Rantburg~~ standard ones but perhaps we could make up some!) --

freedom
liberty
tyranny
individual responsibility
faith
economic development
jobs
tolerance
individual rights

If we make the dictionary and definitions large enough perhaps Fred, or Glenn Reynolds, or someone would host it so that Prof. Fish and the liberals could consult it when they wish to speak to us.

Might save them time.

Then again, maybe not.

Posted by Steve White 2010-09-29 12:16|| 2010-09-29 12:16|| Front Page Top

#11 Mr. White,

Bravo...nice points.

Posted by Broadhead6 2010-09-29 13:31|| 2010-09-29 13:31|| Front Page Top

#12 Broadhead6- As if you and I were in need of any confirmation that Taibbi is lacking in scruples and smarts, look no further. The Washington Examiner has put out a nice rebuttal:

Someone needs to tell Matt Taibbi that Medicare isnt a voluntary program

Posted by eltoroverde 2010-09-29 14:00|| 2010-09-29 14:00|| Front Page Top

#13 eltoroverde, LOL. Good find. His lacking in scruples and smarts makes him a perfect fit for his Rolling Stoned audience. Like I always say to the libs I know - If you're going to Rolling Stone for investigative journalism or the Daily Show for your news you're a moron.

Posted by Broadhead6 2010-09-29 16:05|| 2010-09-29 16:05|| Front Page Top

#14 TEA Party and traditional America is considered radical which simply means that those in DC these days are so way way out in left field, anything around home plate would be considered radical.

Posted by Jack Ulating5834 2010-09-29 18:02|| 2010-09-29 18:02|| Front Page Top

#15 To any establishment Republicans reading this as research: The Tea Party is helping you now but if you don't fly right we'll be coming for you in 2012.

Posted by whitecollar redneck 2010-09-29 19:47|| 2010-09-29 19:47|| Front Page Top

#16 Does anyone under the age of sixty read Rolling Stone? Mr. Wife wasn't able to help, as he'd never read it, either.

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