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2010-09-06 China-Japan-Koreas

'N.Korea could be mother of all insurgencies'

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Posted by Fred 2010-09-06 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top
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#1 In the event of a North Korean collapse, not one of our troops should cross the DMZ for any reason whatever. We should resist any calls of a humanitarian nature and let the South Koreans deal with it. Materials or food we can supply, but absolutely no military or civilian personnel. Barring chinese intervention, we should consider a significant decrease of our forces in the south asap.
We are not loved in South Korea and when the inevitable problems of reunification occur, we will get the blame.

Posted by Dogsbody 2010-09-06 03:47|| 2010-09-06 03:47|| Front Page Top

#2 We should not be there now. Let the UN 'man' the barricades. Let's see how that works out.

Posted by Whiskey Mike 2010-09-06 04:40|| 2010-09-06 04:40|| Front Page Top

#3 Dogsbody,
But China will move military forces, and lots of them, into Norkland when the regime collapses.

Fear of the south is a relatively now phenomena. Fear of the dragon is ancient.

So three questions.

1. How will the norks react to Chinese troops?
2. How will the South Koreans react?
3. What will Bambi do?

Posted by Mike Ramsey 2010-09-06 09:53|| 2010-09-06 09:53|| Front Page Top

#4 3.What will Bambi do?

Blame Bush, of course

Posted by Frank G 2010-09-06 09:59|| 2010-09-06 09:59|| Front Page Top

#5 Mike R, I think a serious and convincing case can be made to the Chinese that it would be in their best interest not to move into North Korea. By mutual non-intervention in a South Korean run reunification, both major powers avoid a possible direct clash and involvement in any civic unrest in the former NK.
With our draw down, Korea becomes a "non-aligned" country. No threat to the Chinese for a generation or two as the reconstruction of the north will consume all surplus funds for a loooog time.
Will the Chinese gain great influence there? Of course. One look at a map makes it clear. We can only try to keep Korea as neutral
as possible to protect Japan. Korea has a history of this. aka The hermit kingdom. They will not want the Chinese, the US or Japan to have any presence there whatever.

Posted by Dogsbody 2010-09-06 10:34|| 2010-09-06 10:34|| Front Page Top

#6 But China will move military forces, and lots of them, into Norkland when the regime collapses.

China won't invade Korea, no way. The support they currently have for the Norks is predicated on the current power of the Kim family dynasty. The old man was a Communist guerilla against the Japanese and that carries an incredible amount of weight with the PLA leadership. Once the old man's grandson is 3D, the Chinese will definitely move troops to control the border and that is it.

The Chinese have no desire, IMO, to deal with an insuregency so close to their own border.

Posted by badanov 2010-09-06 10:44|| http://www.freefirezone.org 2010-09-06 10:44|| Front Page Top

#7 Korea isn't Germany. None of the expensive social programs that made German re-unification so costly.

I'd say there's a 50/50 chance of a Chinese invasion.

Posted by phil_b 2010-09-06 19:16|| 2010-09-06 19:16|| Front Page Top

#8 BTW, for North Koreans, China levels of prosperity and personal freedom would be an unimaginable paradise. No 'insurgency' if China invades.

Posted by phil_b 2010-09-06 19:20|| 2010-09-06 19:20|| Front Page Top

#9 If I were the ChiComs, I'd think twice about taking on the ROKs. The Chinese century could come to an abrupt halt.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2010-09-06 19:25|| 2010-09-06 19:25|| Front Page Top

#10 "The greatest worst case is REGIME COLLAPSE" > True enuff. All things equal, the ultimate fear is Kimmie doing something militarilty to invoke a direct mil confrontation between CHINA, USA, + major Nuclear powers, wid the former being held formally responsible for any incidents NOT actual perpetrator NORTH KOREA.

IOW, TO PRESERVE HIS PERSONAL + DYNASTIC POWER, KIMMIE + FAMILY + REGIME WILL "FLIP-FLOP" AGZ THEIR NORMAL ALLIES/SUPPORTERS, + SIDE WID THE SEEMINGLY STRONGEST OR VICTORIOUS CAMP, EVEN AGZ THEIR OWN. IFF ONE HAS TO LOSE, GO WID THAT WHICH IS SAFEST OR MOST SECURE.

Lest we fergit, 9-11 + WOT = Among other, that the US-WORLD "STATUS QUO" IS NO LONGER ACCEPTABLE OR TOLERABLE, i.e. the normal or routine way of doing things MUST CHANGE, VOLUNTARILY ANDOR FORCIBLY.

What I like to term or belabel the "SIRIUS EFFECT/SYNDROME", ala the "SIRIUS EVENT" [Solar event from decades ago].

NORTH KOREA, like CHINA + USA, ETC. is NOT immune or exempted from these change(s).

Lastly, RADICAL ISLAM's ASYMMETRIC + [potential]NUC THREAT TO ASIA INCLUD EAST ASIA IS EXPANDING, NOT DIMINISHING, which is to North Korea's = Kimmie's advantage ala CHINA + USA, etal.

IMO, NOKOR "REGIME COLLAPSE" SCENARIO = in LT comes down to USA-VERSUS-CHINA-VERSUS-RADICAL ISLAM FOR CONTROL OF NORTH KOREA = EAST ASIA.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2010-09-06 20:01|| 2010-09-06 20:01|| Front Page Top

#11 CHINA > deems the KOREAS + YELLOW SEA/SEA OF JAPAN as a HISTORICAL ROUTE OF FOREIGN INVASION AGZ CHINA = FOREIGN FROCED "INTRUSION" INTO CHINA'S MILPOL AFFAIRS.

Kimmie + NOKOR know it > CHINA WILL UNILATER OCCUPT OR DESTROY NORTH KOREA to save CHINA from the EUROS + RUSS + JAPAN + now the USA, etc. NOT to save North Korea for North Koreans.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2010-09-06 20:08|| 2010-09-06 20:08|| Front Page Top

#12 End of Chinese century= jobs that left for cheaper shores return to USA headquarters with tail between legs to plus war will create even further jobs. Forecast, Sorry, Apple, you can stop printing "designed in California, made in China on everything. Need to make Iphones here now. Ofcourse, lots will die, too. Corporate responsibility will normalize to real levels.

Posted by Entertaining Prose 2010-09-06 20:19|| 2010-09-06 20:19|| Front Page Top

#13 There is always the chance of a nuclear armed civil war (Nork on Nork). Which would be interesting to say the least.

Posted by phil_b 2010-09-06 20:21|| 2010-09-06 20:21|| Front Page Top

#14 Oh boy. Hope the Sorks nuke first, and often in that event.

Posted by Entertaining Prose 2010-09-06 20:37|| 2010-09-06 20:37|| Front Page Top

#15 CHINESE MILITRAY FORUM > SCORES OF FORMER NORTH KOREA SOLDIERS [circa 200 defectors] TO FORM GROUP TO TOPPLE REGIME. New Group = "NORTH KOREAN PEOPLE'S LIBERATION FRONT", or NKPLF.

HMMMM, HMMMMM, whats intehwesting is use of the label "PEOPLE'S LIBERATION FRONT", which typically denotes a PRO-COMMIE/ULTRA-LEFT IDEO???

Uh, uh, "LIBERATION FRONT" = IT TAKES A KOMMIE TO FIGHT ANOTHER COMMIE???

* ION SAME > DISCONTENT FUELS MONGOLIA'S FAR-RIGHT GROUPS [espec the "Angry Youth" + other anti-Chin Ethnics ala Nationalists/National Socialists].

CMF POSTER > claims that OUTER MONGOLIA = eating Grass for food [read, DPRK = North Korea II], unilek INNER MONGOLIA which is enjoying the benefits of CHIN-SUPPORT LIFESTYLE???

* SAME > TAIWAN'S MISSLE DEFENSE SHIELD READY NEXT YEAR: REPORT [US-made Patriot III's + indigenous Taiwan-made BMDS].

Posted by JosephMendiola 2010-09-06 23:21|| 2010-09-06 23:21|| Front Page Top

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