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2010-08-27 Home Front: Politix

NRSC Trying to Pull an "Al Franken" In Alaska?

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Posted by Iblis 2010-08-27 11:09|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top

#1 Absentee ballots should they be abandoned?

That would dispose all your military.

Posted by Procopius2k 2010-08-27 12:36|| 2010-08-27 12:36|| Front Page Top

#2 ..dispossess.

slow down on the posting. Sorry.

Posted by Procopius2k 2010-08-27 12:36|| 2010-08-27 12:36|| Front Page Top

#3 Procoplus2k -- true -- but we've got to find some better way for our finest to vote. Already, this year 10 states are saying they won't be getting ballots to our service people in time for them to vote.

With the technology our military now uses -- heck -- let them video conference their vote! Email it -- the list goes on and on.

My comment was meant about folks living in their precincts.

Posted by Sherry 2010-08-27 13:21|| 2010-08-27 13:21|| Front Page Top

#4 I kinda like Heinlein's idea that ONLY Military(and ex military) Can vote.
Not to be confused with the movie "Starship Troopers" which distorted some of the Book's Ideas.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2010-08-27 14:44|| 2010-08-27 14:44|| Front Page Top

#5 The military should be handled a different way. They should vote normally at their station (if possible) and the tallies submitted to the appropriate election officials. Since most military folk. There is no reason the hardcopy of the ballots needs to be sent long distance.

Either that or allow them to vote electronically. I don't really like the idea of electronic voting because it's so easy to tamper with, but this would seem to be a decent case for the matter.

Posted by rjschwarz 2010-08-27 14:47|| 2010-08-27 14:47|| Front Page Top

#6 With Service Comes Citizenship - Want to Know More?

Heinein's system is not limited to military service, in the sense that anyone, disabled or even a pacifist might serve. All may sign up if they wish, they cannot in fact be refused. Not everyone serves as a starship trooper. Perhaps H would consider a Peacecorp tour to fit the bill in our present age.
The primary idea is that citizens must have real stake in in their government. Service forms this link.

Posted by Dogsbody 2010-08-27 16:54|| 2010-08-27 16:54|| Front Page Top

#7 Here in Alaska we don't take nicely to voting shenanigans. Polling place workers take their duties seriously.

There are procedures for a recount if it is too close. State picks up the tab. You want a battle, mess with the votes up here. Al Franken types better stay away. We have had people misrepresent themselves, and they got outed.

Posted by Alaska Paul in Hooper Bay, Alaska 2010-08-27 17:49|| 2010-08-27 17:49|| Front Page Top

#8 FWIW...Anymouse and wife voted Joe Miller absentee on Tuesday.

Posted by anymouse 2010-08-27 18:03|| 2010-08-27 18:03|| Front Page Top

#9 In Estonia here, we've been e-voting for several years. Heck, you can vote through YOUR MOBILE PHONE with encryption.
Good to see the old home soil is keeping up.

Posted by Mizzou Mafia 2010-08-27 18:33|| 2010-08-27 18:33|| Front Page Top

#10 Here in the Peoples Republic of Washington State several counties have been mail-vote-only for years.

Its not who votes - its who counts the votes!

Posted by CrazyFool 2010-08-27 18:45|| 2010-08-27 18:45|| Front Page Top

#11 Breaking: Joe Miller was just involved in a minor three car fender bender.

Posted by Anonymoose 2010-08-27 19:53|| 2010-08-27 19:53|| Front Page Top

#12 I kinda like Heinlein's idea that ONLY Military(and ex military) Can vote.

Actually it pretty well started out that way. One of the first acts of the new United States under the present Constitution was the Militia Act of 1792 which stipulated that the militia was composed of all free white males between 18 and 45

That each and every free able-bodied white male citizen of the respective States, resident therein, who is or shall be of age of eighteen years, and under the age of forty-five years (except as is herein after excepted) shall severally and respectively be enrolled in the militia,

That was just as much a description of the entire franchised electorate of the time.

The Act would be modified in 1862 to include -

And be it further enacted, That the President be, and he is hereby, authorized to receive into the service of the United States, for the purpose of constructing entrenchments, or performing camp service or any other labor, or any military or naval service for which they may be found competent, persons of African descent, and such persons shall be enrolled and organized under such regulations, not inconsistent with the Constitution and laws, as the President may prescribe.

which would be followed by the 15th Amendment ratified by 1870. Service and the franchise remained linked.

The break occurs with the 19th Amendment when responsibility of service and the franchise were disconnected. Males 17 to 45 are still members of the federal militia as either part of the organized or unorganized militia IAW Title X, USC which is the implementation of authority of Congress under Article I, Section 8.

Posted by Procopius2k 2010-08-27 21:06|| 2010-08-27 21:06|| Front Page Top

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