Article

2010-08-17 Home Front: Culture Wars

Muslim leaders to abandon plans for Ground Zero community center

Archived material is restricted to Rantburg regulars and members. If you need access email fred.pruitt=at=gmail.com with your nick to be added to the members list. There is no charge to join Rantburg as a member.

Posted by miscellaneous 2010-08-17 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11130 views ] Top

#1 I'll believe it when I see it.

Posted by DarthVader 2010-08-17 00:19|| 2010-08-17 00:19|| Front Page Top

#2 Muslim leaders to abandon plans for Ground Zero community center

I wonder how long it would have taken Obama to figure this out.

Posted by gorb 2010-08-17 00:24|| 2010-08-17 00:24|| Front Page Top

#3 Ummmmmmmmm...nope.
Kinda defeats the purpose if they did that.

Posted by tu3031 2010-08-17 00:47|| 2010-08-17 00:47|| Front Page Top

#4 That would mean Haaretz was finally right about something. Not likely.

Posted by Goober Goobelopolous 2010-08-17 01:52|| 2010-08-17 01:52|| Front Page Top

#5 ... claim that the leaders are convinced abandoning the site is preferable to unleashing a wave of bitterness towards Muslims.
Sour grapes.

...a show of sensitivity to families of the victims of the 9/11 attacks, and to the American public generally.
Sour grapes.

... lack of funds to pay for construction of the center, estimated to cost a hundred million dollars. Backers hope moving it will lead to a wave of support, accompanied by cash donations.
Publicity stunt!

It is also possible that the decision was also influenced by comments made by U.S. President Barack Obama on Sunday, in which he appeared to reverse an earlier show of support.
Fat chance!

Posted by Bobby 2010-08-17 06:27|| 2010-08-17 06:27|| Front Page Top

#6 Interesting comment from the NY Post article linked by tu3031 (#3) -
I am an American Muslim and I am sick and tired of hearing other Muslims constantly calling on all Americans to understand them and learn more about them and be sensitive to them and so on, without in the least bit being interested in learning about other human beings think and how they FEEL, irrational as those feelings might be. Clearly, judging from some of the writers here, the feelings towards Muslims is not positive.

Now that the Mosque project has blown in the faces of the organizers, why not take the opportunity to do something positive. Do not build a mosque, just raise money within the muslim communities to build a memorial to the victims of 9/11. No need to put a Mosque there, period.

This might be construed by other silly Muslims as giving in and sending the wrong message but on the contrary, this might be a golden opportunity for the organizers if indeed they want to build bridges as they say.

The original idea was ill-conceived and has been an utter disaster (why anyone would think that kind of a project would help build bridges is beyond me).

Posted by Bobby 2010-08-17 06:32|| 2010-08-17 06:32|| Front Page Top

#7 I think it's more likely someone got scammed. The group owns one building but is leasing the other from Con-Ed. Ther is no income being taken in from either building so someone is forking out some serious dough. The plan was originally to build an apartment building but the real estate market has tanked. It's most likely the two brothers who own the one building were flim-flammed. It will never be built.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2010-08-17 08:10|| 2010-08-17 08:10|| Front Page Top

#8 Then there's the case of the St. Nicholas Church which was at ground zero and the obstruction, of the very same agents promoting the mosque, in its rebuilding. The elite can not see their own wanton display of double standards and it's consequential interpretation as a grave affront to the ~~serfs~~ citizenry.

Posted by Procopius2k 2010-08-17 08:37|| 2010-08-17 08:37|| Front Page Top

#9 I'll believe it when I see it.

Ummm, you mean Don't see it, don't you?

Posted by Redneck Jim 2010-08-17 11:26|| 2010-08-17 11:26|| Front Page Top

#10 It's time to remind the 30% or so of americans who support the construction of an islamic victory mosque at GZ just how peaceful, tolerant and understanding muslims are - including the ever-so elusive "moderate" muslim. It is time to stir the pot again as memories seem to have faded.

Let us present again the muslim response to one of the dearest and most important rights of democracy.

Cartoons. The right to mock or satirize anything. The right to rib. The right to tell a joke that starts: a rabbi, a priest and an imam walk into a bar....

Cartoon wars. Now. Everybody. Absolutely everybody. let us see once again the muslim demonstration of violence, intolerance and ignorance.

The "peace, tolerance and understanding" of which muslims speak are to be shown TOWARDS islam. Not FROM islam towards others.

Posted by Swanimote 2010-08-17 12:03|| 2010-08-17 12:03|| Front Page Top

#11 I am an outside observer of the Ground Zero Mosque but one point more than anything strikes me square in my old logic box.

If the Muslims pushing for the mosque were so caring and peace loving to other peoples beliefs then they would see the pain and hurt this is causing and gracefully rescind on their ambitions.

Sooooooooo.

Posted by A sausage at the gates of Mecca 2010-08-17 14:18|| 2010-08-17 14:18|| Front Page Top

#12 If this idea stayed alive just long enough for Obama to embarrass himself by endorsing it that's a good thing.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2010-08-17 15:15|| 2010-08-17 15:15|| Front Page Top

#13 But what about the gay bar....? Will it still open adjacent the Cordoba?

Posted by Besoeker 2010-08-17 16:24|| 2010-08-17 16:24|| Front Page Top

#14 I've not seen anything about this except out of Israel. I will believe it when I see it--maybe.

Posted by JohnQC 2010-08-17 17:45|| 2010-08-17 17:45|| Front Page Top

00:08 JosephMendiola
23:55 JosephMendiola
23:50 Alan Kellogg
23:30 JosephMendiola
23:24 gorb
23:17 Pappy
23:17 Steve White
23:10 Pappy
23:07 Pappy
22:58 Old Patriot
22:57 DMFD
22:56 Barbara Skolaut
22:54 Barbara Skolaut
22:54 gorb
22:51 Barbara Skolaut
22:50 Barbara Skolaut
22:44 CrazyFool
22:35 Frank G
22:24 Old Patriot
22:18 gorb
22:18 John Coleman
22:11 DMFD
22:06 Lumpy Anguting2786
22:04 DMFD