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2010-01-22 China-Japan-Koreas

USN 'Accidentally' Releases Chinese Navy Status Of Forces

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Posted by Anonymoose 2010-01-22 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 Who wants to be the Chinese posted it there themselves?

Posted by gromky 2010-01-22 00:09|| 2010-01-22 00:09|| Front Page Top

#2 be=bet

Posted by gromky 2010-01-22 00:11|| 2010-01-22 00:11|| Front Page Top

#3 The U.S. had a few of these, but got rid of them. China uses these for coastal patrol and defense, a concept they inherited from the Russians.

LOL Wut

China should thank the Russians for a common sense naval doctrine that comports with their national level of technology?

The Chinese fleet is no match for the U.S. Navy now, but the Chinese are building and planning for the future. In another few decades, the Chinese expect the situation to be quite different.

In a few decades the China will learn it's great fun to compete with the US Navy on the high seas, and they will find it is a damn sight easier to play a competitor than it is to do the job the US Navy does.

The PLAN is a force in search of a doctrine still.

Posted by badanov 2010-01-22 00:58|| http://www.freefirezone.org 2010-01-22 00:58|| Front Page Top

#4 If the strategy page info is really the extent of the info released, I really don't see the big deal. It's just a sign that too many things are classified. All of this is available through open sources, hell, I could probably find photos of almost every Chinese warship were I inclined to do so.

This summary seems a bit misleading in that it groups together modern ships with obsolete and obsolescent classes. That count of SSKs would seem to include the elderly Romeo/Ming boats, for example.

Posted by Pstanley 2010-01-22 01:04|| 2010-01-22 01:04|| Front Page Top

#5 badanov, the PLAN may not have to match the USN on the high seas to achieve Beijing's goals. An operation to seize Taiwan, for example, would take place under air cover from the mainland. Those "coastal patrol" vessels would be of great use in such a scenario, too. The recent-build Type 022 missile boats aren't meant for patrol so much as they are built for swarming attack.

Here's a good link.

Posted by Pstanley 2010-01-22 01:19|| 2010-01-22 01:19|| Front Page Top

#6 Wouldn't this all be in Jane's?

Posted by Eric Jablow 2010-01-22 07:34|| 2010-01-22 07:34|| Front Page Top

#7 The Chinese are beginning to understand capitalism and international trade, particularly securing critical resources, and are dependent upon a sea going navy to protect those trade routes. One just has to look at all the business activity in making oil deals to grasp that they understand what's all involved in a modern economy. If their approach is to treats the US as an enemy or hostile competitor, then they need to rely upon other resources in the future to protect those organs of commerce. It's basic 19th Century Alfred Thayer Mahan stuff.

Posted by Procopius2k 2010-01-22 07:37|| 2010-01-22 07:37|| Front Page Top

#8 Back in the days when one could reasonably expect to run into a Russian naval vessel under its own power in the western Pacific (and not being towed to some Indian scrapping yard), I used to keep my copy of Combat Fleets of the World handy. It had a lot more useful information than any of those so-called "classified" assessments. Given the state of our intel apparatus, I have no reason to believe that anything has changed in this regard.

Posted by Dreadnought 2010-01-22 10:05|| 2010-01-22 10:05|| Front Page Top

#9 Wouldn't this all be in Jane's?

Among other places. For example:

The World Navies Today page at Haze Gray and Underway

The Federation of American Scientists site has some useful stuff, no matter what you think of their politics

Posted by SteveS 2010-01-22 14:05|| 2010-01-22 14:05|| Front Page Top

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